JUST TESTED THE "NEW" REMINGTON HTP FBI LOAD VS THE OLD ONE

[Arik]

On 03 January 2016 I wrote to Buffalo Bore about their enhanced "FBI Load." While I believe information I requested to be important for me to strongly consider buying that ammunition for EDC, apparently Buffalo Bore does not. OR answers present a less than favorable perspective on the ammunition. There has been no reply.
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Dear Sirs:

I shoot Remington's +P 38 Special 158-grain LSWC-HP "FBI Load" in my S&W 640-1 (357 Magnum, 2.125-inch barrel). I was recently informed of your SKU: 20A/20 Heavy .38 Special +P Ammo - 158 gr. L.S.W.C.H.P. - G.C. ammunition.

At 25 yards how closely will your enhanced FBI Load's point of impact correspond with my Remington FBI Load while I use the same point of aim?
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Your blurb on your FBI Load describes extreme expansion with about 14 inches of penetration in human flesh.

- What are penetration-expansion results when "winter clothing" fronts the flesh?

- What are penetration-expansion results when conventional clothing plus a typical "cheap" room-to-room door fronts the flesh?
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Please describe how effectively your FBI Load is sealed. Upon request or special order, may I obtain your FBI Load in nickel plated brass rather than unplated?

How would they know how close their ammo corresponds to Remington? And in your gun?

What if it was typical clothing and a cheap room to room door but on the other end was an home office with typical home office stuff on the desk? What's the expansion when the bullet only passes through a boating world magazine and a pencil?

It's commercial ammo not surplus ment to be stored for 100 years

 

[CoMF]

At 60ish cents per round, I can't practice with [Speer GDSB] as much as I'd like. The price of "progress" I guess.

Speer does make a 135 gr. TMJ practice round; it's just not easily found.

Federal American Eagle 130 gr. FMJ is a reasonably close second choice for practice.

 

[Pigirondan]

I too love this old thread. As an aside, because of the age of some of my S&W revolvers, the first six are the Buffalo Bore .38 Special 150 grain wadcutters and the speed loaders are filled with standard pressure Buffalo Bore .38 Special 158 grain LSWCHP. I do not feel that I'm under gunned at all. YMMV

PS., I've found that the Grizzly 158 grain LSWC "factory load" compares favorably with my standard handloads/reloads. (158 grain LSWC over 5 grains of Unique)

 

[GoDevil Man]

Zombie thread back to life! Chrono'd some hand loads a trusted friend rolled for me today. Tested some factory stuff too. The Remington HTP FBI load averaged 895 fps from my 4 inch 65-3. Chronometer about 15 feet down range. By comparison, American Eagle 357 mag 158 grain JSP measured 1271 fps from my 6 inch 27-2, and 1249.2 from the 65. Pretty happy with the well used bedside 65!

 

[JayFramer]

Zombie thread back to life! Chrono'd some hand loads a trusted friend rolled for me today. Tested some factory stuff too. The Remington HTP FBI load averaged 895 fps from my 4 inch 65-3. Chronometer about 15 feet down range. By comparison, American Eagle 357 mag 158 grain JSP measured 1271 fps from my 6 inch 27-2, and 1249.2 from the 65. Pretty happy with the well used bedside 65!

Thank you, Remington, for ruining the FBI load. Not even 900 FPS... pathetic.

 

[Texas Star]

Thank you, Remington, for ruining the FBI load. Not even 900 FPS... pathetic.

Well, keep in mind the distance from the muzzle to the chrono. That missing 5 FPS is probably lost there.

I doubt that a burglar will notice whether he's hit by a bullet going 895 FPS or one at 900 FPS. And a different gun or chronograph might add 5 or more FPS and that'll vary from one ammo lot to another.

Finally, I think "listed" velocity is 890 FPS from a four-inch vented barrel. ?? What have they lost?