K frame extractors

[SW CQB 45]

are K frame extractors for a Model 13 (357) the same extractor for a Model 14 (38)?

Wondering about the length of the threaded shaft (357 vs 38)

Trying to work on a Model 14 replacement cylinder but it needs a extractor. I found one (new old stock) but they show it for a model 13.

Very similar ratchets.... just inquiring at this time.

 

[Fastbolt]

The part numbers are the same if it's a New Style extractor. From my 2010 Parts List.
#225010000 $34.87 X EXTRACTOR - NEW STYLE

They don't give a part number for the old style extractors, as they're listed as a factory only installed part.
000000001 EXTRACTOR ASSY-OLD STYLE-FAC. INSTALLED ONLY

 

[colt_saa]

Also do not forget that a older Model 13 extractor will probably be recessed

While a Model 14 extractor will not be recessed

I think I have a Model 13 cylinder at home. It is going into a Model 547M. I will look at it tonight

 

[colt_saa]

I should have looked at schematics first.

They are the same length.

In fact Numerich has blank extractors, in the white, for $3.50, you would need to do the chamber cuts

Extractor Blank (Chamber Cuts Not Done. For Guns w/ LH Ejector Rod

The blanks are just listed for K-frames and are offered in right hand or left hand thread

 

[SW CQB 45]

thanks guy... Fastbolt and Colt SAA.... its been a while!. Good to hear from y'all.

here is what I am working with....

I have a model 14 that the cylinder holes were chamfered for PPC some years ago. I am trying to sell it and the folks interested in my piece can't buy it because of the modification. They would get DQ in matches.

anyway... I found a very clean cylinder and now looking for a extractor. I do realize the ratchets will need to be individually tuned.

Here is my Model 14 extractor

Here is a Kframe extractor that is labeled Model 13-3

the length is only .009" different. Does that look like a recessed cylinder extractor?

thanks in advance

 

[colt_saa]

thanks guy... Fastbolt and Colt SAA.... its been a while!. Good to hear from y'all.

here is what I am working with....

Here is a Kframe extractor that is labeled Model 13-3

the length is only .009" different. Does that look like a recessed cylinder extractor?

thanks in advance

Tough to tell from a single image, but that does not look lie a recessed extractor

 

[armorer951]

Here's an example.....a model 66 .357 recessed cylinder on the right, and a model 64, non-recessed .38 special extractor on the left.

 

[SW CQB 45]

Thanks for the info

its a gunbroker ad and he wont separate. I dont need the other extractor and he wont separate.... so the search continues.

take care

 

[PPCSHOOTER]

HAVE THEM READ THE RULES. THAT CHAMFERED CYLINDER IS NOW ALLOWED. HERE ARE THE DISTINGUISHED RULES. IT'S LISTED IN THE STOCK AND OFF DUTY REVOLVER RULES ALSO. JP

3.4 Distinguished Revolver: A factory manufactured (catalog item) revolver capable of chambering and firing .38 Special ammunition. If the trigger is capable of single action it must be capable of lifting 2.5 pounds when gun is cocked for single action firing.
Allowed:
1. Barrel length up to 6 inches.
2. Chamfered cylinders.
3. Any unmodified trigger sold by the manufacturer.

 

[SW CQB 45]

HAVE THEM READ THE RULES. THAT CHAMFERED CYLINDER IS NOW ALLOWED. HERE ARE THE DISTINGUISHED RULES. IT'S LISTED IN THE STOCK AND OFF DUTY REVOLVER RULES ALSO. JP

3.4 Distinguished Revolver: A factory manufactured (catalog item) revolver capable of chambering and firing .38 Special ammunition. If the trigger is capable of single action it must be capable of lifting 2.5 pounds when gun is cocked for single action firing.
Allowed:
1. Barrel length up to 6 inches.
2. Chamfered cylinders.
3. Any unmodified trigger sold by the manufacturer.

Its not a PPC match.
I am not sure what competition it is, but he checked with the ref's and they told him chamfered cylinders were not allowed.

 

[steelslaver]

I will sent you a model 10-7 cylinder and its ratchet for $40 shipped in a flat rate box. I have several from J&G Gun Smith specials that I have replaced the cylinders on to become 357s or 327s. Should fit into a model 14 with only the normal fitting, endshake and timing adjustments if needed.

Also, you might get lucky and have a ratchet work on your cylinders location pins, but most likely not. These must have been match drilled because they seldom perfectly align and operate correctly when a ratchet is moved to another cylinder. I have replaced the old style pin ratchets but had to drill new holes in another set of arms, insert the pins in cylinder and then drill out the new star holes one numerical size larger so the slipped over pins smoothly. Learned all about it with a 45 cylinder with a broken star arm.