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WA Dept of Corrections just traded there HK's UPS 9mm for M&P's, why I dont know(but can ask) but they lost a ton on the trades, paid $800, sold back at $325, most all were unfired
surveyor47 - Most "gunshop guys" are full of poop. Based on what these guys told you, it appears to me that you have found a few such poop filled guys.
I spent years with issued S&W pistols. The manipulation of the safety was trained and INGRAINED in us. It is second nature to this day for my left thumb to sweep the saftylever up as my S&W 3rd gen clears the holster.
I read on the internet of the "difficulty" of the DA to SA transition. Never have seen anyone fail to learn how to do this. Is it harder than DAO? Dunno.....maybe. Is it hard to learn? Evidently not. I've personally trained several newb females who had never even held a handgun, to qualify with TDA S&W 3rd generation pistols. They all qualified. One of them still regularly shoots IDPA with her 5904. I guess it boils down to the individual.
Not only have I never heard/read of an officer being killed because he had problems with the manipulation of a S&W safety lever, or trouble with the DA to SA transition, I strongly believe that any such "officer" that did would be discovered during selection and rookie school and counseled to seek a career in the hospitality/housekeeping industry.
I suspect that those gunshop guys probably had "just what you need" in the gun case for you.
Buy and shoot the 3rd generation pistols with confidence. It evidently won't get any better than them....at least from S&W anyway. Regards 18DAI.
The gun shop guys (off duty police officers) tell me that the S&W 3rd Generation semi autos were dropped because so many officers were killed while trying to manipulate the safety and the transition from DA to SA fire.
What is your opinion?
Having the same trigger stroke all the time is a wonderous thing.
Yup, I agree 100%. Too many of those gun shop gurus who are "cops" are really nothing more than door rattlers and have never really done actual police work in their lives. They wear a uniform and badge but all they do is ride in a car, hang out at the 24/7 Stop n Robs trying to impress the clerks, and aren't capable of finding a crook in a prison. They think police training is reading the latest Gall's catalog.As a Police Firearms Instructor I'd just like to slap those "off-duty police gun shop gurus" in the head!
I spent years with issued S&W pistols. The manipulation of the safety was trained and INGRAINED in us. It is second nature to this day for my left thumb to sweep the saftylever up as my S&W 3rd gen clears the holster.