M&P 15-22 Results, Post 'em here. I got Mine!!

[TxShooter2k9]

the colt is made of metal i believe, and its had its share of issues. Some like it, some hate it.

 

[27 Beck]

Any chance anyone has seen or heard about the colt version. I am wondering if also is polymer.

Ex-Colt M4 OPS owner here. It is not polymer. It is metal. I sold mine at a loss because of the pot metal construction. Did not like the trigger, and you can't put in a different one ( at least at this time) like you can with the S&W 15-22. Difficult to clean and expensive magazines are also Colt "features".

 

[markw76]

It is alloy, and weighs like it. There were a few receivers reported arriving with cracks. Not many, and were exchanged. The Colt-branded, Umarex/Walther clone has its own issues, fake bolt release, cannot disassemble to clean anywhere as easily, safety requires a 180 degree swing, a few more. I won't be getting one.

Oh, and there is a $25 charge for bringing up the competition on this forum.




Just kidding.

 

[patrickm1587]

Over 1,000 rounds through mine with 2 miss feeds, I'm lovin' it

 

[27 Beck]

Over 1,000 rounds through mine with 2 miss feeds, I'm lovin' it

Great info. What brand(s) of ammo?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

With Federal, my rifle is operating flawlessly. I'm almost tempted to stuff some Rem Gold back into it it to see if things have improved... but why fool with something that works, eh? (grin)

A dirty 15-22

Since the previous range visit I had not cleaned the rifle (I wanted to see how dirty these rifles would still shoot) At the range yesterday, the rifle continued to perform well for about 400 rounds (total 950 since cleaning). Then the accuracy fell off a cliff. At a mere 50 yards, where the rifle had been staying on a 2 inch Shoot N-C using a red dot, the shots were now drifting in all directions 6 inches or so. I flipped scopes to a 3-9x just to make sure my red dot had not gone booger, but it didn't make any difference. No feeding issues. There were a couple failure to fires but they got good whacks (ammo related failure).

So... over a thousand rounds without affectiing action reliabilty is pretty good, IMO. And just under 1,000 rounds until the barrel gives up... though I was surprised at how abruptly it gave up. It wasn't a gradual accuracy degredation, it jumped from great to terrible.

 

[27 Beck]

With Federal, my rifle is operating flawlessly. I'm almost tempted to stuff some Rem Gold back into it it to see if things have improved... but why fool with something that works, eh? (grin)

A dirty 15-22

Since the previous range visit I had not cleaned the rifle (I wanted to see how dirty these rifles would still shoot) At the range yesterday, the rifle continued to perform well for about 400 rounds (total 950 since cleaning). Then the accuracy fell off a cliff. At a mere 50 yards, where the rifle had been staying on a 2 inch Shoot N-C using a red dot, the shots were now drifting in all directions 6 inches or so. I flipped scopes to a 3-9x just to make sure my red dot had not gone booger, but it didn't make any difference. No feeding issues. There were a couple failure to fires but they got good whacks (ammo related failure).

So... over a thousand rounds without affectiing action reliabilty is pretty good, IMO. And just under 1,000 rounds until the barrel gives up... though I was surprised at how abruptly it gave up. It wasn't a gradual accuracy degredation, it jumped from great to terrible.

Are you sure it is dirt related and not something else? Will be interesting to get your report after rifle is cleaned and another range trip is logged.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Are you sure it is dirt related and not something else? Will be interesting to get your report after rifle is cleaned and another range trip is logged.

Considering some of the items being reported here, I'm reluctant to say I'm sure of anything. Perhaps my barrel has begun fracturing and is ready to crack into a pistol length AR.

I'll give it a thorough cleaning and report back. Until then, I'll 'assume' a clean barrel will get things back on target.

 

[27 Beck]

Considering some of the items being reported here, I'm reluctant to say I'm sure of anything. Perhaps my barrel has begun fracturing and is ready to crack into a pistol length AR.

I didn't want to say that ........ but my thoughts......

 

[Deerslayer]

Any chance anyone has seen or heard about the colt version. I am wondering if also is polymer.

Another former Colt M4 Ops owner here. Other issues I found were:
1) extreme pickiness with different types of ammo (much more so than with the S&W)
2) so many unnecessarily incompatible parts with the AR platform, like pistol grip, fore-end, trigger group, trigger guard, take-down, etc.
3) very non-AR-like in operation
4) wierd air-gun-like soda-straw barrel which fits inside an AR-looking sleeve just to make it look normal
5) what should be push-pins actually require a punch
6) parts easily fall out upon disassembly - can be confusing if you didn't see where they came from
7) many more reports of disgruntled owners having to send them back to Umarex for repair
8) fake bolt release

And so many other items that many on this blog site have already called out. I definitely prefer the S&W M&P15-22 to the Colt.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Another former Colt M4 Ops owner here. Other issues I found were:
1) extreme pickiness with different types of ammo (much more so than with the S&W)
2) so many unnecessarily incompatible parts with the AR platform, like pistol grip, fore-end, trigger group, trigger guard, take-down, etc.
3) very non-AR-like in operation
4) wierd air-gun-like soda-straw barrel which fits inside an AR-looking sleeve just to make it look normal
5) what should be push-pins actually require a punch
6) parts easily fall out upon disassembly - can be confusing if you didn't see where they came from
7) many more reports of disgruntled owners having to send them back to Umarex for repair
8) fake bolt release

And so many other items that many on this blog site have already called out. I definitely prefer the S&W M&P15-22 to the Colt.

Perhaps the theme with these rifles is style over substance.

 

[TxShooter2k9]

Im not sure what the warranty is on these rifles..a year...lifetime, i dont know. If its not a lifetime, s&w should definitly extend the warranty, especially with the issues popping up on these guns.

 

[allglock]

Im not sure what the warranty is on these rifles..a year...lifetime, i dont know. If its not a lifetime, s&w should definitly extend the warranty, especially with the issues popping up on these guns.

On S&Ws website , it says lifetime... In the manual it says one year??..... OH I see, it says in the manual the warranty is one year, and is lifetime if you are the original owner.
Website PDF
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/popups/mp15_22/SpecSheet.pdf
Manual PDF
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/other/S&W_M&P_1522_Rifle_Manual.pdf

Smith & Wesson's Lifetime Service Policy begins after the warranty
period has expired. Smith & Wesson will repair, without
charge, for the lifetime of the original owner, any Smith & Wesson
handgun purchased on or after February 1, 1989, and any
M&P15 series rifle, that is found to have a defect in material or
workmanship. Eligibility for this Lifetime Service Policy requires
returning the Product Registration Card within 30 days of purchase.
The Lifetime Service Policy covers functional defects; it
does not include the firearm's finish, grips, magazines or sights.
The Lifetime Service Policy is in addition to and not an extension
of the Smith & Wesson Warranty.

 

[Deerslayer]

On S&Ws website , it says lifetime... In the manual it says one year??..... OH I see, it says in the manual the warranty is one year, and is lifetime if you are the original owner.
Website PDF
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/popups/mp15_22/SpecSheet.pdf
Manual PDF
http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson/upload/other/S&W_M&P_1522_Rifle_Manual.pdf

That is precisely why I never hesitate to purchase any S&W product that I happen to like. My experience has always been that they will take care of any problem I have ever had, or will have.

UPDATE on my broken feed ramp: Spoke with S&W yesterday. My dealer sent it to them Monday of last week. They received it last week, but didn't start analizing it until Monday of this week. They expect to have it repaired and returned in "about a week from that Monday". Sounds fair to me. I will keep this blog site posted....

 

[TxShooter2k9]

Glad to here that it looks like S&W will take of my rifle for the long run. Makes me feel better, especially since this is my first s&w product.
Look foward to your updates Deerslayer.

 

[27 Beck]

UPDATE on my broken feed ramp: Spoke with S&W yesterday. My dealer sent it to them Monday of last week. They received it last week, but didn't start analizing it until Monday of this week. They expect to have it repaired and returned in "about a week from that Monday". Sounds fair to me. I will keep this blog site posted....

Good to hear they have it and are analyzing it. Would think that previous feed ramp problems would give them plenty of experience and allow a quick fix.

 

[Deerslayer]

Yeah, I think they have been all taught to answer the same way when customers call in. The first time I called, the fellow I spoke with admitted to having heard of such a problem as the broken feed ramp. The next time I called, all they will say is that they are not familiar with this problem. Hmmm....

Either way, I trust that it will be taken care given my past experiences with S&W Service.

 

[hubie.40]

S&W had Fedex deliver mine today (after the feed/extract problem repair) without notifying me. So, of course, I wasn't here and missed them. Looks like tomorrow is Round 2; hopefully my wife will be back in time. I am starting to feel ill (sick for work, I mean)...And off to the range this weekend to test their work.

 

[27 Beck]

S&W had Fedex deliver mine today (after the feed/extract problem repair) without notifying me. So, of course, I wasn't here and missed them. Looks like tomorrow is Round 2; hopefully my wife will be back in time. I am starting to feel ill (sick for work, I mean)...And off to the range this weekend to test their work.

Same thing happened to me on my return. S&W had my email to send me the shipping label, but did not tell me my gun was in transit back to me. Lucky for me I was home when FedEx stopped for the delivery. It would have been nice if S&W had sent me a tracking number so I could have been expecting the delivery.

UPS will call you the day before if a signature is required. Something FedEx should think about doing.

 

[hubie.40]

10-4. Glad it's almost here, but now concerned that I may miss them again...S&W is awesome, so I appreciate the return of my rifle, just wish I'd been there to receive it...