M&P 9mm inherent accuracy problems?

[clcdawg]

My M&P 9fs shoots way better than I do. Last time at the range it was more accurate than a Glock 19 for me.

 

[Sabby]

M&P 9mm inherent accuracy problems?

only if your the bad guy or coyote

I find myself falling back to the MP9 if I'm slightly off with my other pistols at the range filling in 15 to 50 yrds

My "others" like a certian brand of and grain at so and so yardage, while the MP9 fills that quiver and cycles every type of brand and grain on top of getting tight groups

 

[D Rock]

I've seen lots of that on the M4carbine site, also on the M&PBoards, but much of that is dominated by people that use Apex parts. I don't mean that Apex started it.

When I used to visit the M&PBoards in '08 people like mp9werks had good fixes if you had a gritty trigger, now it's just buy a part.

I've also noticed that Apex is on the M4carbine site with Glock Gen4 fixes.

I'm glad to see after market parts interest in these pistols, but with most shooters, I can't legally shoot an assailant at 25 yards and my M&P 9c groups at 30', draw from concealment, 3 shots in 4 seconds are within 2". That's all I need.

Dave

 

[Sinkhole30]

25 yards is long limit for me. I never shoot 25 yards with a handgun, unless of course it's a scoped handgun. I stick to 5-15 yards for a defensive handgun, and normally shoot at 8 yards. Any kind of tight grouping (sub 4") at 25 yards, with a defensive handgun, using iron sights, really should not be expected from an average shooter. I'm not saying its impossible, I'm just saying it's impractical for defensive shooting. Just my opinion.

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[Grinder]

I agree. That is what people do. For every, "this gun is great" thread you find out there, you can also find at least one "this gun is a piece of junk" thread as well, regardless of brand or model.

There are a few guys that have posted in those threads over on M4C.net that I know from another forum and I trust them to be honest in their reporting of any problems they might encounter with any gun, regardless of make/model. Firearms are simply a mechanical device. It's not reasonable to believe that everyone that leaves the factory will be problem-free forever. So while I don't doubt that there have been a few folks that have experienced some type of problem with their M&P, I think there is also plenty of quantifiable evidence that proves that there are many folks out there who have not.

My general rule is to never trust the worst reviews, in addition to never trusting the best reviews, for any product. Reality usually falls somewhere in between the two extremes.

My issue is none of them shot well
One or two, OK, all =BS
Either ammo or shooter issue

 

[CSV]

I think it's bs. I can pull it out of the holster, aim somewhat quickly, and hit pretty much where I aimed. My groups get worse the more I shoot, but being able to hit PoA first try leads me to think when I don't hit PoA it is me not the gun.

I am pretty new to shooting and only put about 450 rounds through this gun. Other guns have yielded the same results as the mp9, for me

 

[g_conway]

It's easier to blame the tool, than say you haven't learned to use it.

 

[264BORESTEVE]

Love my M&P9. I group what I consider well out to 15 yds offhand. If I have something like a full size torso target, I can keep them all in the vitals area at 100 yds. I couldn't ask for better from a carry gun! I think a lot of people who post on the internet are "inherently negative".

 

[A2 Stippling]

I can't hit **** past 15yds. In fact, can't hit **** with my Glocks and my XDs past 15yds - I am simply not a good shot! However, within that 15yds I can hit at what I shoot. Works for me!

 

[Doug M.]

There seems to be a history of inconsistent accuracy results. Some shoot just fine; some are poor. Try this link:
Recent manufacture M&P 9 accuracy - 10-8 Forums

 

[Out West]

There seems to be a history of inconsistent accuracy results. Some shoot just fine; some are poor. Try this link:
Recent manufacture M&P 9 accuracy - 10-8 Forums

I recognize some of those same posts from the M4 Forum. Same guys, with the same complaints, different forum.

These guys may have a legit accuracy complaint. But, I don't think the issue has as big a base as the internet makes it appear.

Out
West

 

[Shooting Padre]

I find that my new M&P9 is far more accurate than I am. I am pleased that this gun has taught me more about trigger control than any other so far. Knowing that the M&P is terribly accurate makes me bear down on my mechanics and I see improvement every time I shoot it. I think the M&P is the finest gun I've shot, and I thought my 3913 was awesome. I've got some nice wheel guns from our friends at S&W also, but boy did this M&P9 win my heart. Somewhere there is an article on bonding with your guns. The idea was offered that many guns are owned, but few are really bonded with, that some guns are just good guns, but some are special to the owner. I have bonded with two now, my Model 18-0 and the new M&P. They just work. And I look good wearing them.

 

[new shooter]

My m&p9c is one of my most accurate guns. I think i shoot it so well because it fits my hand so well and the recoil is very soft for me.

 

[Gran Torino]

I have two M&P Pro Series 5" Pro Series....one with a Dr Optic read dot and the other with Trijicon night sights. Both have Apex triggers in them. I'm 62 but able still able to hit what I'm shooting at out to 15 yards without fail. I own many other handguns ...some very pricey but none of them are more accurate than the M&P's.

 

[ares338]

M&P Accuracy?

I have the S&W M&P 9c and have been very happy with the accuracy. I mostly shoot at 3, 7 and 15 yards and if I do everything accurately the pistol is dead on. In my opinion you have a great firearm!

 

[Fat B]

I think it's a vocal few that either have gotten a bad one or have heard from a friend who heard from a friend that there are accuracy problems.

A friend of mine hates the M&P that his department issues because it FTE quite a few times per 100 rounds. He blames it on cheap ammo after having it serviced several times and the problem doesn't go away. If I didn't know better I'd tell people to stay away from the M&P just based on one person's experience and they may tell someone else not to buy one based on what I said, all going back to one problem gun.

I also suspect that most of the complaints may be the shooter who doesn't want to admit they may be at fault for lack of trigger control.

 

[GRP17]

Every gun I own has bad press on the internet. Not sure about the accuracy of the pistol you're talking about but the LC9 reviewers claim it is a piece of junk, my SR9 is a FTE nightmare, and my LCP will fall apart if I try to use it. My real world experience with them is that they have been trouble free for years and have had thousands of rounds fired through them. I wouldn't worry too much about what the "experts" think and decide for yourself what weapon meets your needs.

I agree many guns have some kind of negative press/posts on it. There are guns that have been around for ages like quality 1911's and Sigs that you will see negative things about. To each his own.

 

[jnyav8r]

Got my M&P for Christmas and got the Apex kit installed the day before an action shoot and 2 days before a plate shoot. Now with stock Mass compliant trigger IMHO accuracy sucks. I was all over a 10"x10" piece of paper with 115gr FMJ. Now, with the Apex I got a more steady pull and with the 125gr bullets I shoot a ragged 2-3" group at 25 yards. BTW came in second on the plate shoot...

 

[Glockamoly]

Unfortunately the problem is real. Before someone says that it's the shooter, Internet rumor, etc let me say I have 2 M&P 45's a M&P22, a M&P40 and now a second M&P 9. The reason for the second 9mm is the first one shot terrible. No matter what weight bullet, 115/124/147, no matter what velocity, no matter what - it couldn't keep 10 shots on an 8 inch target at 25 yards ( sandbagged). My Glock 17 and 34, my XDm, my HK all would shoot the very same ammo into 3 to 4 inch groups all day long! So I traded it in for a brand new M&P 9 EXO. It shoots just about as bad as the original! My M&P 45's are great shooters (3 to 3.5 inches) at 25 yards. The 22 is reasonable though I have not tried it at 25 yards on paper. There is something strange with the 9's. I even had the Apex FSS trigger on the first one! 3.5 pounds and crisp! This one goes back tomorrow and we'll see what S&W will do.

 

[joes4570]

Where was it well documented? On a Glock forum?
I have four of them, 2 .45s and 2 9mm. They shoot along with most anything that hasn't been accurized.
If I had one that didn't shoot well I'd send it back to Smith and Wesson and complain, its possible to get a bad anything.