Mod 360J in 38 Special sku 160360

Ashlander

Member
Joined
Sep 10, 2011
Messages
2,226
Reaction score
1,309
Location
Ellisville, Missouri
I bought an interesting snubby, a Model 360J (SKU 160360). Unlike the 360PD (with the titanium cylinder), this one is an all black J-frame with scandium frame, stainless steel cylinder (black melonite), ramp front sight, and 1.875 inch barrel. It's new production (spent case dated 3/3/14).

I can find photos of them on-line going back to 2009, but it's never been pictured in any of the annual S&W product catalogs. It's apparently manufactured in special runs from time to time. It's rated plus P.

Any history would be welcome.
 

Attachments

  • photo (4).JPG
    photo (4).JPG
    199.1 KB · Views: 656
Register to hide this ad
Correct, it is an uncataloged variation.

Mine was manufactured in 2008. At the time it was a Bud's exclusive offering, not sure if it still is.

BTW, the cylinder is carbon steel, not stainless.
 
Colt: Thanks for the info. I had not known they go back to 2008. I understand though that while the early 360Js had carbon steel cylinders, more recently the company switched over to stainless ones with the Melonite finish. The ones on mine certainly are Melonite coated (not blued).
 
Last edited:
Just like I won't buy a product that says on the packaging "sea salt" (sounds icky), I am turned off by the word "melonite." Makes me think of cantelopes and honey dews, both of which I hate.

I recently saw this gun at a show and was less than impressed. The non-stainless cylinder is a no-go for me and the gun seemed less well built than regular aluminum frame Js. YMMV
 
Kaaskop49: Yeah, when I hear the word "melonite" I do not think in terms of tough or strong. S&W uses it though on all their M&P guns, so apart from the name, it seems to work.

I shot the gun today and it seems fine. The scandium frame and stainless cylinder seem to be a good combo, though I like my all-steel Model 60-14 better (looks and feel).
 
Last edited:
360J

My son bought one new about two years ago. They are a nice litle gun. A little reminiscent of a Night Guard. I can't help you with their history but info does seem to be sparse on them.

Do you have the box for the gun? This may help, concerning whether the cylinder is carbon or stainless steel on the new ones. Does it list a cylinder code? I found this in a post some time ago.

360J feature codes?

Would someone please explain the following feature codes:
05-A2-SM-GR-B2-SF-SB-FA-CC-ZB

Poked around and found this info from Fjestad BB:

Action: A2 - single action/double action
Frame size: SM - Small/Compact
Grips: GR - rubber grips
Barrel: B2 - two piece
Sights: SF - fixed rear
Sights: SB - black blade front
Frame material: FA - alloy
Cylinder: CC - carbon
Finish: ZB - Blue/Black


Here's a few ads I had found on the 360J also, FWIW
.
 
Last edited:
Like colt saa, I bought mine back when Bud's was selling the first run of them. I picked it up specifically for a 9mm conversion project and it has been a great little gun. I've carried it practically every day for close to five years now and couldn't be happier with it.
 
It came in a S&W blue cardboard box, but the only info on the factory label are as follows:

Serial No. CVMxxxx
SKU 160360
Model 360J
Caliber 38 SPL
Type REVLR
Barrel 1.875

It also has the numbers "030314 which corresponds with the date on the spent casing envelope (3/3/14).
 
Here's an old post from 12/27/12 by Alnamvet68 in a thread entitled "S&W 360 .38 Special:

[T]he Model 360J is chambered only for the 38 special. This is one unique handgun in that it is built with a scandium frame, and depending on whether it is an earlier model, or a most recent production, comes with either a carbon steel cylinder, or stainless steel cylinderl, all finished in melonite. Of course, if one was to change out the cylinder for one that accomodates a 357 mag, then it would be safe to use 357, since the only difference in the 360J and the 360 or 360 PD is the cylinder...the 360 uses a stainless steel cylinder and accomodates the 357, and the 360PD uses a titanium cylinder which accomodates the 357.

That said, you will not find anything on the S&W site, archived or otherwise, and you will get a variety of responses when you call and speak with S&W as to why the 360J 38 cal only does not appear anywhere on their web site. I am of the opinion that this is a handgun that was built on contract for a foreign LE/military, and for whatever reasons, either they built more then they needed, or the contract went *****...S&W will not say yay or nay on either theory. One last thing, you will notice the serial number is on the left side of the revolver, just under the cylinder release latch, instead of on the butt, where all the J frames have their serial numbers. If you take off your grips, you will notice a hole in the butt which appears to be for a lanyard...

***
I like the revolver because of its shrouded barrel and durable melonite finish, not to mention its light weight...oh, and its a S&W that most "experts" have no clue as to its origins and purpose.
 
Attn Ashlander. I frankly do not care for the secrecy re the composition of the cylinder, carbon steel or stainless. S&W seems to be deliberately not indicating which. With the use of stainless steel almost universal, I wonder why the company would take a step backwards with carbon steel cylinders. BTW, appreciate your likes of my posts.
 
I don't see where there's any big deal. If it is an issue, call S&W and ask. My gun has a carbon steel cylinder, from what I understand somewhere along the production runs they switched to stainless, my guess would be that the decision was based on availability. The gun performs the same regardless of which steel the cylinder is made of.

BTW, there have been numerous threads on these guns over the years discussing all of this stuff. Nothing new or earth shattering here.
 
Melonite is an incredible finish...definitely not something that would turn me off based on the "goofiness" of the name. In contrast, I would be much more inclined to buy something with a melonite finish than not.
 
The 360PD is listed in the catalog as scandium frame. We know the 360J is because before the recent price cut they used to cost a lot more than the aluminum models.
 
The 360PD is listed in the catalog as scandium frame. We know the 360J is because before the recent price cut they used to cost a lot more than the aluminum models.

Which catalog do you speak of? There seems to be very little reference information about this model.
 
Which catalog do you speak of? There seems to be very little reference information about this model.

I have a 2014 S&W Product Catalog and includes the 360PD (and lists it as having a scandium frame). The 360J (in .38 Special) is a non-catalog gun made from time to time, as I understand it, for odd military and police contracts (the serial numbers are etched on the side of the frame below the cylinder latch). The over-runs or unsold units end up being distributed in the general market.
 
I was searching this info awhile back after i bought one and it was made for a Japanese LE contract.
 
How do we know these are Scandium alloy? I don't recall any markings to that tune.
If you don't believe everyone here you can call S&W and check. However, the dealers are certainly aware of what they're made of and have advertised them as such. Also, the 13.3oz weight and two piece/shrouded barrels are give aways.


Melonite is an incredible finish...definitely not something that would turn me off based on the "goofiness" of the name. In contrast, I would be much more inclined to buy something with a melonite finish than not.
The earlier carbon steel cyl runs had the cyls finished in dull blue, similar to the 586 L-Comp. It was a thin, cheaply done finish and the cyls were very susceptible to surface rust, that's why I had Robar coat my cyl with NP3. The later SS cyls have the melonite coating.
 
Hello - I bought this gun, but the box says it's a .357 even though the gun says .38 cal. The serial number on the gun matches the box. Anybody else notice this?
 
Also - I seem to be having a hard time finding a holster for this gun - any recommendations? My son bought a J357 paddle holster for me, but it did not fit. I contacted Fobus, but they said they don't make a holster to fit this gun...
 
Holster

I bought one of these J Frames myself a couple of weeks ago and made a nice little holster for it (professional leather worker). If you are interested, contact me and I'll send you some photos of it. It is a standard compact single belt loop, but I always end up making a belt loop, a paddle style, and IWB for all of my individual guns so I always have the option of carry style for each gun I have.
Hawk
 
I bought one of these J Frames myself a couple of weeks ago and made a nice little holster for it (professional leather worker). If you are interested, contact me and I'll send you some photos of it. It is a standard compact single belt loop, but I always end up making a belt loop, a paddle style, and IWB for all of my individual guns so I always have the option of carry style for each gun I have.
Hawk

How about posting some pics here for us to see?
 
Just picked one up yesterday.
Worried about the finish on my 637.
No issues yet, but just in case.
 

Attachments

  • 360jr.jpg
    360jr.jpg
    49.8 KB · Views: 164
Just tried my 360J. My impression

Myopi ion only. Took mine out for the first time last night. Bought it for my and wifes protection from 2 and 4 legged and slithering varmints. I like the compactness and lightness (wouldnt go lighter in 38spl). Wife likes the operation of revolver over my Ruger LC9s.
The 360 was controlable for rapid fire with light swc loads. With 158swc FBI loads point of aim was very close, slower to recover for rapid fire with these loads. Carry ammo will be 110 to 135 grain +p.
I wouldnt shoot a gun like this in 357 ( this model is 38+p only). +P 158 is my limit. A 9mm with moon clips would be a interesting option. I'm very pleased wih the whole package.
 
FYI:
Fobus holster for 640-3 and DeSantis leather j-frame belt holsters fit the 360J perfectly. I'm wearing one of the Desantis holsters now, while I'm typing this response riding in my wife's car. The 360J is a nice gun: light, compact, accurate (the gun-not so much this shooter); and it was priced well at Fin, Feather, and Fur when I bought it a few months ago.
 
360J

I've owned, carried, and enjoyed shooting mine for 4 years. It has the carbon steel cylinder. I carry it in an old Uncle Mikes stuffed with .38 Critical Defense. It is my all time favorite J frame. As other have posted, these fine revolvers are an anomaly ;):)




 
Last edited:
Back
Top