Negative Encounter Review.

[wingriderz]

My first thought, as well! No way I would walk outside in that neighborhood without a concealed handgun or two.

Here lately its two

 

[federali]

It May Not Be Over

Unfortunately, this individual in the truck took offense upon believing he was being stared at. Whether drugs are involved or not, the possibility remains that this individual may return with friends or try to ambush you when your guard is down.

I'd remain in Condition Yellow. Identify the areas from which a surprise attack can be launched against you and be especially aware of strange vehicles in your vicinity, especially if they're occupied.

 

[keith44spl]

Don't engage a meth tweeker, they are dangerous people.
I've worked quite a few meth labs, and have arrested my share of dopers.
I don't give them any quarter.

I know it's hard to keep both eyes on em and not stare at the same time.

The symptoms of amphetamine psychosis are;

Paranoia
Compulsive behavior
Delusions
Hallucinations
Picking at the skin
Violent behavior
Aggression

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[fiasconva]

Call the local sheriff and report the incident. Then you have documentation in case something happens again. Watch your six.

 

[Xfuzz]

Call the local sheriff and report the incident. Then you have documentation in case something happens again. Watch your six.

THIS.....

Something is on file in case things go south later....

 

[Squarebutt]

Next time let the German Shepherd argue with him.

 

[AlHunt]

Yes J H 51 its same home. Until the county evicted them two weeks ago I didn't know . We just found out it was condemned in 2009. Seems county dropped ball. They have 69k in fines and liens. The property is not worth any thing and is a small lot. .32 . No way would I want it. I am putting up an 8 foot wooden fence on that side and calling it a day. County wouldn't let me put it up on 8 prior

Glad to hear they're gone. Hope they stay that way ...

 

[Wise_A]

Next time let the German Shepherd argue with him.

I would respectfully disagree, on a number of counts that you may or may not agree with, depending on your ethics (and a bit on where you live).

(1) If you're going to have to escalate an "encounter" to an "engagement", you want it to be because you decided physical or deadly force was necessary, not your dog.

(2) If your dog attacks first, then it's arguable you're the de facto aggressor. In my state at least, that precludes your right to claim self-defense. It also taints any further claim you might make as to your attacker's actions.

(3) I believe that in at least a few places, it's been ruled that a dog counts as a deadly weapon if it's under the control of its owner when it attacks.

(4) I feel a person is responsible to their dog to avoid putting the dog in jeopardy. What I mean by that is that a person shouldn't allow the animal to be in situations where it can make trouble for itself. A dog that's off-leash, or on-leash pressed into situations where it's not comfortable, is at risk of biting somebody. Once that happens, it can wind up being put down. And when that happens, I frequently view the owner as the jerk.

 

[iPac]

The very real possibility of having to deal with "drugged" up bad guys is the reason I bumped up to a 357mag carry revolver.

I'm confident with 38spl, but not so sure it will perform when the person is hopped up on crank.

Just my personal thoughts.

To the OP, I would always be armed. It definitely sounds like you got some drug activity going on there, and that activity ultimately affects everyone. Even if it's just the risk of burglary for their next fix.

 

[nachogrande]

WORST IDEA EVER??? SUGGESTING ARSON?

Is this the same house that you posted about before where the occupants blocked the road etc., and somewhat provoked you? Your concern then was 'what to do about them'. Seems the problem may be resolving itself and you are dealing with the residuals. Neighbors and folks on the street and in the area seem to be a thorn in your side. Now that (it seems) the property is condemned, perhaps it is a good time to buy it, and you can control who your neighbors are in the future. If the house needs torn down, you should be able to get a great deal on the property. There are possibly ways to get rid of the structure very inexpensively, especially if it is wood frame stick construction.

If you didn't make this nut job's list before... You would NEVER be considered a suspect for this crime. Think things are bad now? How about your family (?) dealing with them & you behind bars. Unforunately this aint the only house of this sort around. This one appears to HAVE made the radar & is being dealt with. I'd start thinking in terms of beefing up security & a plan for protecting others/pets, as I feel retaliation would start small with vandalism/dog poisioning cowardly type stuff when you are not there.

 

[wingriderz]

Thanks nachogrande yes we are indeed High Orange.

 

[nachogrande]

WHATEVER YOU DO

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE BILLY BAD BOYZ! A bunch of interweb wanabe tough guys, that will just get you into worse trouble, plus an old fashioned butt kicking/jail time or worse.

 

[hoosierone]

If this is typical of the area you live in, maybe relocating would be the best long term option.

 

[M29since14]

I think your fence is a great idea, along with keeping a close eye on your dogs (poisoning ) - and maybe keeping your shotgun out of sight but handy when you're out in the yard. Let the police deal with the wacko. He's not your problem, unless he makes himself so.

 

[tug700]

Always, Always; get the plate number, excellent description of vehicle and person, then make a report to the authorities. Make a permanent record of all of this and record it in 2 or 3 places. Keep a journal if there is more than one instance. You work, they probably don't and will have access to your property in your absence.

 

[Absalom]

Do not lose sight of the fact that, according to the OP's description, the guy stopped his truck and got out, but stayed on the road exercising his First Amendment rights . As long as he doesn't produce a weapon or sets foot on your property, any escalation will legally be your problem.

Nothing illegal happened. A cop sympathetic to the OP might be able to construct a "disturbing the peace" charge, but it's unlikely they would bother due to the brevity of the incident. Forget the suggestion about the dog, but even displaying a gun in this situation might be unwise, although having a concealed one just in case is always smart.

Don't engage, and report the incident and license plate to the sheriff's non-emergency number. They can't do anything about the occurrence, but it may help establish a pattern that puts the guy away if he is known.

 

[muddog]

You did the right thing. But stay vigilant.

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[Old cop]

As a retired LEO who had 30 years on the job what you have to do, immediately, is contact your law enforcement organziation and file a report. Don't engage this guy unless you're physically attacked, then defend yourself but keep a cell phone handy and call 911 if this guy gets near you again.

 

[686-380]

My concern is that he came back at all. If you even hear his truck, call the cops. Something tells me he's planning on homesteading again.

 

[Whitwabit]

Next time let the German Shepherd argue with him.

I would never release my GSD out side of inside my home .. unless it was on a leather lead and it was still under your control !!

As others have said at that point you become the aggressor and might loose many of your rights claiming self defense if you allowed your dog to attack .. possible even authorities putting it down !! and am sure you would not want that ..

Living in the country I have always taught my GSD's not to accept food from anyone but us .. Family members .. There was a rash of someone throwing poisoned meatballs along country roads poisoning anything that found it .. a neighbors son lost his dog that way .. so my last 3 I've trained to avoid that ..