New SW1911SC normal or problem!?
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I have em all in the 1911's... including the E 1911sc... I checked mine out for the rail gouges, but it was just a little bit of normal wear.. heck, I have Colts with more wear.. I have several of the original 1911's from when they were built by the Performance center in Springfield. I think it was 2003 or 4. I bought that one from a member here, it's a beauty...
That is good to know. I would expect to see wear, all my guns have it.. Like you said on a new gun? I tracked it Smith will have it Tuesday. I expect it to be gone at least 3 weeks. Just hope I don't get the "it's normal bit." Should I get some aftermarket parts for it while I'm waiting like a Wilson Combat slide stop.. Etc.
I wouldn't spend a nickel on after market parts... shoot it... it's a great gun out of the box.
wlp624
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I agree completely. If you want to take it up a step in class, move up to the S&W Performance Center 1911's, either the new models or the previous version used. Or a PC 945 in real nice condition. While not a true 1911, the 945's are some of the best built, best looking and most accurate guns ever made.
A few years ago I purchased a "Gun Site" light weight commander Smith. Very nice 1911 but with one problem. Every spent case hit me in the forehead. It made concentration on trigger control very hard. Sent it back to Smith, returned to me in 4 weeks and all was well. Great gun but I wish I would have waited for the E series.
Received an email my 1911 was shipped back to me on Thursday. Today being Saturday and transit times they had it for a week. Unsure what what was done, but that quick of a turnover I'm hoping it's not excuses that this is "normal wear", and it fixed. Should be delivered Monday.
vinny77
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Mine is back at S&W. Please let me know when you get it. what was done and if they fixed the tight slide issue. thanks, vinny
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Please re-read the thread if you really have to ask this question, lol. I know you're not trying to stir the pot.. Maybe you are.. Your point came across clear that you think this is normal, yet others beg to differ and that's ok. So I will answer your question. I expect a reconditioned gun. I don't accept this as normal, as others don't. If it comes back as, normal I will have a gun for sale, and building my own custom a 1911 that doesn't accept this as normal.
So in retrospect.. I expect Smith to have filed the burs off the slide and re coated the gun where it was damaged, if that's possible. That is not wear.. It's gouging. I have an email from Smith's Supervisor writing up the order as "Frame Gouging" when he sent me a call tag after viewing the photos.
Depending on how this pans out. You may be sending in your gun..
Or this is a plain case of some have this problem and some don't, and there's no fix.
I want to believe this and I respect your knowledge and experience. I meant no disrespect on my last post. It seems like only some of these 1911s have this issue, or we all may be mixing up slide wear vs gouging.
Took mine down along with a full size steel frame. They both have the same wear in the same place...the Sc just shows it. Yours looks to be a bit more but I have less than 1k rounds down the Sc.
Pics continued in next post...
This I would accept as normal frame wear. Not my case or Vinny's. We will see what Tomato brings!
Thanks T-bird. If you get a chance next time you break yours down snap a pic. The last person that posted pics (on page 1) had only slide wear and not gouging. I'd like to see your frame.
Here's a link to my 1911 thread.. Little repetitive on my part to save time, but different responses and perspective on the situation.
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=443908
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=443908
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I have read all the posts so far. I have 2 alloy framed S&W 1911's with normal wear patterns. My Gunsite which I don't shoot at all anymore has the same cases hitting me in the head sometimes. I might send that back in. I would just accept the fact that some gouging has occured. As a master tool/die maker with 40 years experience similar tools, dies, molds, fixtures, etc. We call them "grease grooves" and move on.....
I disagree and so does my local gunsmith who builds 1911s. Rack his slides and rack this one. Sandpaper vs butter. I will call It a grease groove when I damage it out of my own stupidity. Not on a gun new out of a box. As a master tool maker would you build a new gun for someone, charge a premium price, and hand it over new with a gouged frame. I don't think so. You customer would hand you the gun back and go elsewhere. As a master tool maker you probably would have caught the small QC ISSUES that were the root cause of the the problem. To me it's a principle. It's not acceptable, sorry..
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I agree with you 100% Your original post the gouge is simply unacceptable. Let us know in the forum what S&W does to correct the issue. I am very sorry for using the term "grease groove". On older molds, dies, fixtures that get dinged up and I have to repair them, I do call it a grease groove.
