No carry work?

And I would have ridden to this imaginary job on a unicorn?

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You saying you have no job skills or car to be able to go somewhere else?

I have no duty to die or be homeless.

You also have no right to break the law or the rights of your chosen employer. You CHOOSE to stay there and work there.
 
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You saying you have no job skills or car to be able to go somewhere else?



You also have no right to break the law or the rights of your chosen employer. You CHOOSE to stay there and work there.
Job skills and a car do you no good when there's no job to which to go... especially when you've disqualified yourself for unemployment.

I try to obey the law... except when it would put me on the street... or get me killed.

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I don't know how to post those GIF's where somebody is eating popcorn. But I would . . .

Here you go...

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What's so unusual about that?

I'll bet 90% of employers probibit CC inside the workplace, and many won't even allow firearms on the property.

The places that allow CC at the place of work are pretty rare.

Some, however, don't really have a policy on it one way or the other until some problem comes up. ( Don't ask/don't tell )

It is almost inevitable that as a company grows, they make more workplace rules, and banning firearms is usually right at the top of the list.
 
Our lives come from God. So does our right to defend them.
There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion..
 
I have a boss that lets me carry at work, the ones that don't carry at our work place are glad some of us do. We have even talk about if something would happen what to do and where to go if possible. I listen to our local dispatch at work all the time
( broadcastify.com ) you'd be really surprised on what goes on in our area, allot people just don't even have a clue of everything that happening.
 
Job skills and a car do you no good when there's no job to which to go... especially when you've disqualified yourself for unemployment.

I try to obey the law... except when it would put me on the street... or get me killed.

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REALLY? So, it's OK to break the law and the contract of employment with your employer when YOU feel it's OK? Sorry, if those rules were in place and I was your boss, you would be fired with extreme prejudice, not for rehire...........

Don't come on here looking for justification of your illegal activity. Try going out of your comfort zone and maybe you have to drive to another town........ back in the 80s when jobs actually WERE hard to find, I ran into a lot fo folks who thought driving 20 miles for a job was too hard and they might as well stay on unemployment

I have ZERO sympathy for that mindset. I moved from NYC to ATL to 4 places in TX, then CO, then ND, then NV - all inside 6 years

because that's where the jobs were............get a clue
 
REALLY? So, it's OK to break the law and the contract of employment with your employer when YOU feel it's OK?
It absolutely is when my life, and maybe those of others are at risk.

Clearly the ORC and an employment contract trump human life in your view.

It's pretty easy for somebody with no interest at risk to pose the choice of homelessness or potential violent death to somebody about whom they couldn't care less whether they lived or died.

When you offer to be my personal bodyguard or to pay my bills, THEN you get a vote.
 
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Follow up from OP. I do work in an educational environment, but do not feel threatened. I can leave a firearm in my vehicle, but can't carry in the workplace. It is not a dangerous environment and over several years, I've only had two-three potential situations that could have gone badly. But, still, there are a lot of people in one place who aren't allowed to carry.

And, oh by the way, our security officers do not carry. They lock/unlock doors mainly and keep and eye on the parking lot.
 
FWIW, I work in a gun-free zone enforced by a metal detector at the entry.
I don't like it but I agreed to it when I took the job.

A prison was mine for twenty + years. Armed with noting but my wits locked in with 1200 felons. Now it a similar institution, a high school.
 
Before 9/11, my company's power plants had trap/skeet fields and folks brought their guns for after their shift. One plant had cooling ponds that drew a lot of deer and folks brought their rifles. Not anymore. DHS makes that a felony.
 
WON'T DO ANYONE ANY GOOD IN A CAR ALL DAY ALONE.

Not only won't it be of any good, you run the risk of it falling into the wrong hands. JMO & as you can tell I'm not a fan of guns being unsecured & alone just about anywhere. At least figure out some way to secure it. Now it basically just works to protect you driving to and from work?
 
Our lives come from God. So does our right to defend them.
There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion..



I can almost see your chest puffing out as you write
those words.

The 2nd Amendment only pertains to what government can't do.

Private property rights trump your perceived right to carry wherever you want. A business owner has just as much right to say what is and isn't allowed on his/her property as do you to say who and what is allowed in your home.

Is that bureaucratic nonsense? No, that's your right to decide what happens on your property.

No matter if you're licensed, if I don't know and trust you, you're not carrying in my house. If a contractor I've hired comes in my home packing, he'll probably be fired. Trusting someone to paint my house doesn't mean I trust them to carry a gun while they're doing it. And, unless you work for a very small company, the owner probably doesn't know you much better than I know the guy painting my house (unless he's my brother-in-law, who I am definitely not letting in the house with a gun!)

As to the Grant Cunningham article: through very careful and attentive driving, it's very unlikely I'll need my seat belt. After all, I rode in cars without one for almost 30 years without suffering serious injury. But I use it anyway, not just because the law requires me to.
 
I work at a major airport and weapons are not allowed....of any kind. I disarm before leaving my truck and re-arm as soon as I am back inside it. When not at work I am armed.
 
Now it basically just works to protect you driving to and from work?
Isn't that when carjackings generally occur... when you're in your car?

If he doesn't protect himself when he's in his car, who WILL?

Of course doesn't it also work to protect him when he stops for gas, goes to the grocery store, buys books, sits in the park watching ducks, etc., etc., etc.? Or do you ONLY drive to work and back?
 
I'd suggest reading the company rule book very, very carefully. I once worked at a place located in a less than wonderful area (what I later recognized as gang signs all over the place). The company forbade "illegal weapons"-not that that had much affect on what some of the employees did. On the other hand, CCW=legal.

I expect HR pros and lawyers write stuff much more closely now, but it doesn't hurt to check and the printed word always trumps someones opinion of what it says. Over decades, I found the printed stuff most useful for a multitude of situations.
 
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