NOT RELOADING FOR FRIENDS

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With the sporadic limited availablity of some calibers of ammunition over the past few years I've been approach several times and asked if I would load a few boxes of ammo. I've came up with a standard 2 part answer

1. I do not have an Ammunition Manufactures License and am not willing to risk fines/jail time.

2. If you would like some reloads you are welcome to use my equipment under my supervision but must supply your own brass, bullets, powder and primers. No takers on this to date.
 
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I don't have a problem loading for a few select friends but I've made it clear that it can't impact my personal supply of components.
At this time I've got a good supply of components with the exception of a few types of brass which I ask them to supply. Just had one of my friends bring me 2000 once fired .223 in exchange for 250 loaded rounds.
 
Check your liability coverage. Reloading for anyone other than yourself can end in your bankruptcy!!!!! I have never had any issues with my reloads in my guns, but would not put my reputation on the line and end up losing everything if someone's defective gun blows up. Besides, a responsible shooter should NEVER shoot reloads from anyone other than themselves.
 
old tanker said:
. . . We have swapped ammo for one reason or another many times without a second thought.
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That is the problem. I have let people shoot my reloads in my guns only. We have no control how anyone else, friend or not, takes care of their guns. Disassembly for cleaning and forgetting to put it back together correctly or a defect that is not identified. The risk is still there and liability or not, how would you feel if anything went wrong?

My only experience with this was a couple of friends at the range were shooting each other's ammo and one was shooting a Uberti Henry. Well, during the course of speed-shooting at steel, the shooter apparently had a squib load and chambered another round and shot without realizing that there was a bullet lodged in the barrel. The result was a double hit of bullets right on target, but a split barrel. Well, what would you do? The other shooter who reloaded the ammo, ended up paying for a new barrel for his friend's Henry. If anyone has priced a barrel assembly for that model, it costs almost $500, plus gunsmith's fee to install. Fortunately, no injury occurred, but both shooter's no longer share their reloaded ammo!
 
andy52 said:
I don't have a problem loading for a few select friends but I've made it clear that it can't impact my personal supply of components.
At this time I've got a good supply of components with the exception of a few types of brass which I ask them to supply. Just had one of my friends bring me 2000 once fired .223 in exchange for 250 loaded rounds.
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You just admitted to the gun world you broke the law! I hope "big bother" isn't reading this? I hope you aren't on facebook or twitter?
jcelect
 
I doubt the BATF would be hard pressed to charge anyone for reloading a few boxes of ammo for a friend for free or even "at cost."

Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?
Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use. [18 U.S.C. 922 (a) and 923 (a); 27 CFR 478.41]

No profit, personal use - no problem.
 
I don't worry about a friend suing me, it's their family I worry about.

Think about some mud or snow in a barrel, rifle opens up and someone loses an eye or worse.

Nothing wrong with your load, but that's not going to matter when someone's out for blood.(Money)

Two fools meet when you load for someone else. The person loading and the person shooting someone's handloads.
 
My reloads get shot in my guns only.

A buddy of mine recently joined me at the range and I haven't shot his Charter Bulldog yet. He has run out of 44 SPL ammo while I have plenty of my own 44 SPL reloads so he said bring some of mine so I could try it. Instead of possibly insulting him I pretended to have just forgotten to bring any 44 SPL. I don't load my 44 SPL too hot but if there is a gun most likely to blow up with 44 SPL it is a cheap lightweight gun like the Bulldog.
 
I don't shoot any one else's reloads and I don't reload for anyone else. I've been approached to do so, but I decline as nicely as I can. I used to have a Manufacture FFL years ago. There was never an issue, but the risk was just too high. Back then, you had to have an FFL to buy components or ammo; things have changed since then!! :-)
 
SMSgt said:
I doubt the BATF would be hard pressed to charge anyone for reloading a few boxes of ammo for a friend for free or even "at cost."

Is a person who reloads ammunition required to be licensed as a manufacturer?
Yes, if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. No, if the person reloads only for personal use. [18 U.S.C. 922 (a) and 923 (a); 27 CFR 478.41]

No profit, personal use - no problem.
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There's the right answer, I do not reload for profit. Much the same if I work on a friends firearm if I'm not in it for the business then I don't require a FFL for gunsmithing.
As far as lability is concerned these are people I've known for many years and that doesn't bother me.
 
Rammer Jammer said:
My reloads get shot in my guns only.

A buddy of mine recently joined me at the range and I haven't shot his Charter Bulldog yet. He has run out of 44 SPL ammo while I have plenty of my own 44 SPL reloads so he said bring some of mine so I could try it. Instead of possibly insulting him I pretended to have just forgotten to bring any 44 SPL. I don't load my 44 SPL too hot but if there is a gun most likely to blow up with 44 SPL it is a cheap lightweight gun like the Bulldog.
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While the 44 Bulldog is lightweight I'd call it inexpensive rather than cheap. I use one for concealed carry with factory COP ammo. It would be more likely for my !00+ year old hand ejector to fail than the CA. Like you I load 44 Special on the light side.
 
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I will not reload for anyone else except myself. I do not want the liability of a mistake on my part hurting someone else or their equipment. In the case of family, come over and I'll watch and instruct you on reloading your own ammo. Makes things simple, just the wisdom of KISS.
 
Back when I was shooting USPSA, this was in the early 1990's, one of my friends who also shot matches with me wanted me to load ammo for him. I declined based on the liability issue if something bad happened and it turned out to be my reloads. I don't have that sort of liability insurance and I surely do not have a license to manufacture ammo. My reloads are for my use only.
 
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