Pawn Shop Shock.....686 no dash

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I had a little time today to drop by a LGS and a couple of pawn shops that usually have something interesting to look at. Today was no exception. One of the pawn shops had a really superb Md. 686 no dash, no "M" with a very desirable 4 inch barrel and OEM Target stocks. It was gorgeous! And then the SHOCK....$895.00! I looked again just to be sure I read those numbers correctly. Yep, $895.00. I didn't even ask if it had the original box etc.

I sure can't say what the price would be in your area for a similar gun, but IMO this was a major escalation for here. Yes, I know that was an asking price and a lower price could probably be negotiated. Would this gun or similar in around 98% condition have a $900.00 tag on it in your city/town? It will be interesting to see how long it is there.

I walked out with a box of .357 feeling happy that I already have my 686-3 with 4 inch barrel.
 
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A pawn shop probably had about half that into it. You probably could have taken it for 75% of the asking price.
 
I paid $750 for mine last year. Bought it privately from someone on Armslist. No box, or papers but the gun is in very nice shape.

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I just paid $625 for one wearing Pachmayrs recently off of GA, no box or papers, & I have a nice set of shooter grips coming from a recent purchase here on the forum. I'll keep an eye open for a good deal on a really nice set of grips, but when I'm all said & done I hope to have about $690 in it. Unless it was something truly special that I'm not aware of, I think $895 is way out of line.
 
New ones are $750.
Someone is likely to pay that much for a nice enough old one that they would rather have, anyhow.

Best,
Rick
 
price is somewhat high. but that is what you will find in most pawn shops. i also check them time to time to see if i can find any deals. but the last several months no deals to be found. just high prices. i don't know how some stay in business when their prices are higher than new.
 
Unlike a lot of folks who are posting about 686s, I had the hankering for a 6" specimen. When I got mine about six or so months ago in a sort of "friends and family" kind of deal that cost me about $650 plus replacing the grips. It was no dash, no M, and the cosmetics were about perfect, so it suits me right down to the ground. Here's hoping you find one at a reasonable price... but don't get your hopes up for finding one real cheap.

Froggie
 
That price is high for my area. I picked up a very nice 686-3 4" with pachmayr grips two weeks ago at my local pawn shop for $639, no box or papers. I was very pleased with that price when compared to other areas across the country.
 
I have spoken with pawnbrokers, usually the deal with overpriced guns is that they are on consignment. The seller wants close to retail and the pawnshop wants their scratch.

I saw a 586 no dash 6" here locally for $800. You can find these on GB for $550 for crying out loud.
 
These were going in the $500-buy and $575-$600 sell range a year ago. Now, when you see them they are priced up closer to the $775 range. Like everything else gun....prices have increased. IMHO....8 and over is still a bit high.
 
i love pawn shops but they make me sick. around my area most no nothing about guns, they look on gb and base there prices on what dealers are asking at full retail prices.
 
olskool said:
i love pawn shops but they make me sick. around my area most no nothing about guns, they look on gb and base there prices on what dealers are asking at full retail prices.
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I tend to agree with you. I love em and hate em too! The pawn shop clerks in my area could probably tell me a lot about the latest little black semi auto and all those black military looking things hanging on the wall, but they sure don't know much about revolvers. There was one very young clerk in a shop that I did business with that I took a liking. I was negotiating between him and the manager for a Md 19, 6 in, Nickel, P&R. We got the deal done but he truly wanted to know why I wanted the gun and what features it had that made it desirable. I taught him about P&R, diamond grips and a few other basic S&W features. He remembered and every time I came in he would start drag out any guns they had that had what I might be looking for. However, he's moved on and I haven't met any others that had any interest at all about what they were supposed to be selling.

Another time in the same shop I saw a customer attempting to pawn 5 or six long guns. The clerk went to GB to check on every one of them for his information and point of reference.
 
I recently went to a Pawn Shop in my area that I drop into once in a while. I looked around but they didn't have much in used guns just a couple of used ones. I saw a revolver and there it was . A 686-1,4".
I checked it out a little and bought it with no box or papers. I got him down to $425.00
Brought it home and cleaned it a little more. The ejector rod was loose and the front sight used to be tritium I think.
The cylinder got stuck because of the ejector rod. Rather than screw it up,I rought it to a competent gunsmith. He fixed it and made sure everything else was ok.
I asked him,what was the trigger pull weight. He said 3.5 SA and 8.5DA. I did the front sight with fingernail polish.
He said someone must have worked the trigger action some because it is smooth. I took it out and fired a box of ammo. Love it.
 

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I picked up a clean 686-4 4" w/o box in February of 2013 for $635.00 + taxes & transfer fee. That was at a local gun shop.

It might be the last gun I'd sell. Or the "from my cold dead hands" gun.
 
This seller is just another one of many who will wait until such time as a fool with more money than brains comes along who wants the gun at any cost.

More and more of these sellers are showing themselves online because the world is apparently full of this type of buyer. It is just one of the reasons prices overall are climbing.
 
I bought a no dash, 4 inch 686 in January for $600.
It was in excellent condition but had pachmayr presentation grips, ad no box or documents. It also came with 44 rounds of 38spcl and 94 rounds of .357. This was purchased from an individual. A few weeks ago a local shop had a decent 686-1 for $550. It wasn't there long
 
$895 is too high.

4" 686's average $600-$700 around Denver. They are up from $500-$600 in 2011 when I moved here.

The key, as posted above, is to build a relationship with the managers of certain pawnshops and then reliably buy from them.

My last layaway was a 2 gun purchase. A 4" 686-1 and a 3913. The manager stated that they were layaways which were forfeited for non payment. They were offered to me for what was owed on the layaway: $335 for the 686 and $265 for the 3913. The shop did not want to re display them and they were offered to me because I was a good, reliable, repeat customer.

$600 for both - 10 percent down and 5 months to pay!

This pawnshop is part of a chain (Cash America Pawn), and the manager now checks all store inventory and alerts me to interesting guns.

You bet I am in that shop several times a month.
 
They say you never pay "Too much" you just pay it "Too soon".I passed on a NIB 4" 686 no dash near $500 2 years ago, today thats a good deal .

I paid $550 for the 686 no dash pictured below about 6 months ago but its part of the initial Lew Horton snub run with RB FG combat stocks worth about $135 ,


 
I have no idea why so many people make such an issue about a $50 difference in cost for a gun, or a magazine costing $40 instead of $20. I know money is tight, but why gripe over the cost of something that you want to own forever, when you can easily spend that $20- $50 one time at the range having a good time?

Richard
 
10xatten said:
I have no idea why so many people make such an issue about a $50 difference in cost for a gun, or a magazine costing $40 instead of $20. I know money is tight, but why gripe over the cost of something that you want to own forever, when you can easily spend that $20- $50 one time at the range having a good time?

Richard
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Because it all adds up... $20 more here, $50 more there and pretty soon you've spent enough to have bought another gun. ;)

I understand your point though too and on certain hard to find items I might spend more than I think it's worth if I have to, I dont necessarily like it but sometimes a little more for the bird in the hand is worth it over waiting for the cheaper one in the bush. But not on everyday, easily found items, those get hunted down to the last penny of savings. :D
 
Don't know about your area, but where I live, never pay the asking price at a pawn shop for a gun. If you bargain a bit they will knock anywhere from 25% to 40% off it, depending on what they paid for the thing and how long it has sit on the shelf. Don't be afraid to say "that's too much, what is your bottom line on that pistol". If it's still to much just turn around and walk away.
 
I was attending a 2 day gun show and found a new Model 10 that I really liked.
Me and the dealer got down to it. We were 14 bucks apart. 14 bucks. It was Saturday, and I walked away, figuring that this guy wasn't gonna let 14 dollars stand in the way of a sale.

Nope, off I went, feeling very self-satisfied, mind you. I did some more shopping, socializing etc. and went on home. Let's do some research I say to myself. Hmmm. Interesting.

The next day I trundle on over and humbly and happily spend the fourteen dollars (plus some other hundred dollar bills) and walk away w the gun I wanted.

I guess what I wanted to say is price can be relative to both desire and rarity. I passed on a NIB Model 17 classic and I'm still kicking myself. It seemed like too much $ at the time. Now it doesn't.

Research and this Forum will be your good friend in cases like this. I'm w the majority, this gun is overpriced. You could certainly get a better price. Good luck. :)
 
It depends. Late last year I found a six inch NIB 686-1. Of course everything came with it. Box condition showed where it had sat on a shelf, but that was all. No turn line. Bought it for $750. Why? Not hard to figure. In 2000 I bought a little 18-3 that was priced at $325. Probably could have got it for less... maybe, but not likely in that condition. Now fourteen years later, it is my most used/enjoyed revolver. Same thing w/ the 686-1. I've been looking for a six inch 686 for a while. Most that I found in nice shape were around 650, usually w/o anything else. Saw the 686-1... realized it probably actually was NIB as the condition was excellent. Seller may have been not telling the truth. If I paid to much, it happens. I've bought cars that in retrospect were priced a smidgen to high. I drove them and then let them go. Some I wish I'd kept. This 686-1 will be kept. In May I will use it in a combat type match over at Columbus. There's two fellows over that way that usually win everything. I've been practicing. That 686 is looking like it's going to really push everyone else. Cool!
 
Oklahoman said:
Good Luck in your match .... will be pulling for you and the 686!
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Thank you! Am currently practicing at night. I use a Lawrence holster that fits my 625-2. The 686 drops right down inside... and comes out slick as all get out. The 686 was NIB... till I got it to the range. My best run has been a 248/250 but mostly I shoot 244/250 firing on a B-27. I've never fired a match where you start w/ your hand behind your head. It's different. I figure several hundred dry-fire practice shots each evening will help me get on and stay on target come match day.

Most of the stages will require no more than six rounds, so I figure I'll have an advantage with the revolver due to the longer sight radius and the superior single-action trigger. Given time limits for each stage, there is no reason I cannot fire the stages in SA.

As far as ammunition is concerned, I will be firing a 158 gr. handload. About a month ago I loaded up 500 rounds which I shot in the 686. On target results were a little bit better than those obtained using factory 130 gr. FMJ's. If there's time I may try to see if I can come up with a 148 gr. wadcutter load that will give better results. After all, it doesn't take a lot of power to punch holes in paper! The last match was won with a 241/250. From what I've been told, the best shooters weren't getting much competition from anyone else. And apparently everyone let some rounds get away from them at the 20 and 25 yd. line. If I can avoid messing up, it just may be that that 686 will produce a win. Hopefully!
 
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