Rittenhouse found not guilty on all counts

I have access to a competent prosecutor, who is extremely familiar with the case (he works in a neighboring county where they were originally going to prosecute the miserable miscreant, id. est., Jacob Blake who's really responsible for this mess) and he has told me that: a) Rittenhouse should have never been charged and, b) many Wisconsin prosecutors think Binger (the lead prosecutor) acted unethically.

Any mention of the WI bar taking a look at Binger?
 
From a strict legal standpoint, I can't argue with your prosecutorial source, but the law doesn't always drive decisions like this. Rittenhouse had to be charged...and here's why:

This was not a case of "self-defense" where a homeowner shot a burglar...or a merchant killed an armed robber. Rittenhouse inserted himself into a volatile, violent, highly-charged public situation, one where he had no personal stake, and then ended up taking two lives on a public street.

Regardless of whether he was legally justified in firing those shots -- and the jury ruled he was -- from the standpoint of maintaining order in an organized society, you can't have somebody do what he did and then have civil authorities put their stamp of approval on it. The public would never have stood for it.

You just made his point for being there.
Society was allowed to disintegrate of norms of order for political reasons so the kid was motivated to be a "do gooder" and put his chest out "for society".
I am glad he is not guilty. Now the similar orchestrated mayhem has folks in solitary confinement because the politicians allowed mayhem at the Capitol. This ain't Kansas anymore!
Respectfully, Toto
 
I rest my case. And yes, I am familiar with the Texas statute and jury instructions. Understand that the 'reasonableness' of that use of force is a question for the jury, or the judge in a bench trial.

Criminal Pattern Jury Charges (Criminal Defenses) (2015)
Chapter 36. Defense of Property
CPJC 36-8 Instruction—Deadly Force in Defense of One’s Own Personal Property

Wisconsin also has a defense of property law, which may, under certain conditions, extend to protecting others property.

Wi s.s.939.49  Defense of property and protection against retail theft.


IMO, if you are using appropriate force to protect your property, and you get attacked and meet the requirements to use deadly force, you can.
 
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Any mention of the WI bar taking a look at Binger?

Just as a curious Wi side note; The State of Wi has"diploma privilege" which enables graduates of the state's law schools to practice law without passing a bar exam.
 
This thread reminds me of the Song by Buffalo Springfield

There's something happening here
But what it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
A-telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop
Children, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
And nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Are gettin' so much resistance from behind
It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look what's going down
 
It appears some of the "higher educated" hippies at ASU don't want to face real life and are crying now.

Just look who is behind it.

I’m sure their classes in 14th Century pottery making will lead them to successful careers. :D

The guy has been acquitted, leave him alone.

Everyone has the presumption of innocence until found guilty. He was found not guilty, he’s innocent of the charges filed.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...of_innocence&usg=AOvVaw2T_andoauxrikvFF1f782t


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...of_innocence&usg=AOvVaw3IcV7d60KQg6LRnJnC8WYZ
 
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It says here the verdict was disgraceful. The punk came to Kenosha to do some killing. He got what he wanted. At no time was his life seriously in danger. His second two victims were trying to disarm an active shooter who had already killed once.
 
It says here the verdict was disgraceful. The punk came to Kenosha to do some killing. He got what he wanted. At no time was his life seriously in danger. His second two victims were trying to disarm an active shooter who had already killed once.
Did you forget to insert a link?
You say "it says here.."
Where is "here"?

Not that it really matters. He was pronounced not guilty by a 12 person jury of his peers who saw ALL the evidence (vs. a clip or two of video and someone's opinion).

So what some left-leaning talking head or bird cage liner says is of absolutely zero consequence.
 
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Or maybe the civil authorities in Kenosha should have done their jobs, and maintained order in the first place..

Not to say it was a wise decision to be there but when civil authorities refuse to do there duty to protect life and property then what is the recourse? To bury you head in the sand? I watched most of the trial and there was a lot of videos shown. The level of total carnage and lack of any type of civilized behavior is appalling. So what are you going to do when it's your neighborhood?
 
It says here the verdict was disgraceful. The punk came to Kenosha to do some killing. He got what he wanted. At no time was his life seriously in danger. His second two victims were trying to disarm an active shooter who had already killed once.

Yup, and what do you think his attackers were there for??
 
Not to say it was a wise decision to be there but when civil authorities refuse to do there duty to protect life and property then what is the recourse? To bury you head in the sand? I watched most of the trial and there was a lot of videos shown. The level of total carnage and lack of any type of civilized behavior is appalling. So what are you going to do when it's your neighborhood?

When it's my neighborhood? Certainly I'll defend it. And when the dust settles, I'll demand answers from the craven politicians and police chiefs who wouldn't do their sworn duty and enforce the law.

But it wasn't Rittenhouse's neighborhood. He didn't live in the immediate vicinity, and he didn't own a business that was being threatened. And he was underage! (As I said earlier here: I raised two sons, and if either of them had come to me at age 17, and told me he was heading off to a riot with a rifle in hand, I would have planted my foot you-know-where.)

There are two separate issues here. Was Rittenhouse acting within the law? Yes, according to the jury, and I fully accept that. Should he have been there? Absolutely not, in my opinion.

(I note that not one person on this thread -- not a single one -- who defends Rittenhouse has said he or she would let his own son do what Rittenhouse did.)
 
A lot of the civil rioting was not only tolerated but supported by people above their local police. Seattle has been under what a reasonable person could believe was a knowingly fabricated "consent decree" for a decade or so. The City Attorney, who admits hating the police, rolled over instead of doing his job.

The popular version of the death of George Floyd is mostly a fabrication, claiming a non-lethal technique killed him. He became a hero to people who have some other legitimate grievances as a result. In the resulting riots, Seattle PD and the State Patrol allowed streets and I-5 to be blocked unlawfully, for which their command staff should have been charged with multiple counts of "unlawful imprisonment" as accomplices (1 for each person blocked or restrained). Rather than risk injuring criminals who were acting like criminals, they allowed innocent if ill-advised persons to be injured. There have been no consequences, although there is civil litigation going on.

Our legislature has passed laws they call "police reform", which are not reform, but pandering to the BS claims of apologists for the criminally feral. Since those laws took effect this summer, we see the impact in de-policing; de-prosecution, and increases of all sorts of misconduct. What I refer to as "spoiled brat culture" is taking over. Victimization is climbing. Accountability is a fantasy.
 
A lot of the civil rioting was not only tolerated but supported by people above their local police. Seattle has been under what a reasonable person could believe was a knowingly fabricated "consent decree" for a decade or so. The City Attorney, who admits hating the police, rolled over instead of doing his job.

The popular version of the death of George Floyd is mostly a fabrication, claiming a non-lethal technique killed him. He became a hero to people who have some other legitimate grievances as a result. In the resulting riots, Seattle PD and the State Patrol allowed streets and I-5 to be blocked unlawfully, for which their command staff should have been charged with multiple counts of "unlawful imprisonment" as accomplices (1 for each person blocked or restrained). Rather than risk injuring criminals who were acting like criminals, they allowed innocent if ill-advised persons to be injured. There have been no consequences, although there is civil litigation going on.

Our legislature has passed laws they call "police reform", which are not reform, but pandering to the BS claims of apologists for the criminally feral. Since those laws took effect this summer, we see the impact in de-policing; de-prosecution, and increases of all sorts of misconduct. What I refer to as "spoiled brat culture" is taking over. Victimization is climbing. Accountability is a fantasy.

It amounts collusion of city and state officials with organizations whose purpose is to effect change through violence (a.k.a. terrorist organizations). When decent folks take a stand, they are called vigilantes, unacceptable, knuckleheads, etc. And that's just in this thread. The media is even worse.

The officials need to either do their job or resign and make room for those who will. If they continue to support terrorist organizations against law abiding citizens, they may find out those citizens can restore order themselves.
 
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(I note that not one person on this thread -- not a single one -- who defends Rittenhouse has said he or she would let his own son do what Rittenhouse did.)

I and several thousands of others went to South Vietnam to defend a nation, a member of SEATO, against similar riotous forces. We were all sons of someone.
 
It says here the verdict was disgraceful. The punk came to Kenosha to do some killing. He got what he wanted. At no time was his life seriously in danger. His second two victims were trying to disarm an active shooter who had already killed once.

That’s not the way 12 of his peers saw it.

Are any of the others being prosecuted, the guy who pointed a gun at him, high kick man? We know Kyle’s reason for being in Kenosha, what altruistic reasons do the other angels have for being there?

Lessons learned:
Don’t chase someone while threatening to kill him and then try to take his means of defense

Never bring a skateboard to a gunfight

Don’t point a gun at someone with a gun and not expect to get shot

Stay home
 
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When it's my neighborhood? Certainly I'll defend it. And when the dust settles, I'll demand answers from the craven politicians and police chiefs who wouldn't do their sworn duty and enforce the law.

But it wasn't Rittenhouse's neighborhood. He didn't live in the immediate vicinity, and he didn't own a business that was being threatened. And he was underage! (As I said earlier here: I raised two sons, and if either of them had come to me at age 17, and told me he was heading off to a riot with a rifle in hand, I would have planted my foot you-know-where.)


There are two separate issues here. Was Rittenhouse acting within the law? Yes, according to the jury, and I fully accept that. Should he have been there? Absolutely not, in my opinion.

(I note that not one person on this thread -- not a single one -- who defends Rittenhouse has said he or she would let his own son do what Rittenhouse did.)

Rittenhouse had strong family ties (his father lived here) and social ties (he worked here) to Kenosha. But hey, after all, who would want to get into "a quarrel in a faraway land between people of which we know nothing."

For the record, while we are all debating whether or not he should have been there, it should be noted that one 17 year old with a rifle, in a short time, accomplished what hundreds of law officers and National Guardsman were unable to do- bring the expletives-deleted to heel and send them packing.
 
That’s not the way 12 of his peers saw it.

Are any of the others being prosecuted, the guy who pointed a gun at him, high kick man? We know Kyle’s reason for being in Kenosha, what altruistic reasons were the other angels have for being there?

Lessons learned:
Don’t chase someone while threatening to kill him and then try to take his means of defense

Never bring a skateboard to a gunfight

Don’t point a gun at someone with a gun and not expect to get shot

Stay home

"Never bring a skateboard to a gunfight" I absolutely love it!
 
Jimmy-Malone.jpg

They bring a skateboard, you bring a gun. That's the Kenosha way!
 
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