Sandy Hook shooting a managed event?

[StatesRightist]

I'm not saying it did not happen, clearly it did, but we've all seen the charges of actors being used. I've read a quoted account with an LEO who says they chased what was believed to be a 2nd shooter through the woods with dogs. He was later told to keep quite, that it was not a second shooter because the FBI said it wasn't. Some of the original 911 tapes have calls about multiple people on it.

» College Professor Says 'Crisis Actors' May Have Played Part If Sandy Hook Was Indeed a Hoax Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

If you don't like infowars, google it, there plenty of other sites with this report on it. I think Jones is half nut case myself, but this is not "his" story.

I wouldn't even go into the "interesting" facts about Aurora.

The primary point is for people to think, if this was a managed, much less media produced event, what is the end goal? I'm not asking you to believe the theory either, just think and consider all possibilities.

 

[Rule3]

I keep hearing something about the Bushmaster or was there really one used?? Found in the trunk of the car or some other who knows what??

 

[Comrad]

The President's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel said it best. You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.

I have no doubt that things are manipulated after the fact for maximum effect.

 

[walnutred]

Ever see the movie Wag the Dog?

 

[PDL]

Managed in what way? It's obvious the reporting etc. is biased and incorrect and being managed to achieve a specific goal.

The Medical examiner stated that all wounds were cause by 'the rifle'. That was the majic rifle that was in the trunk. It never left the trunk, but it was able to shoot thru the car and the school walls to hit the kids.

But like any other sensational anti-social gun act, the gun grabbers will use it to their advantage. You don't see a headline like '300 million people not shot yesterday by the millions of evil black rifle owners'.

I didn'nt read your link. It sounded too much like another wacko conspiracy lead in. There's no 'hoax' involved with this tragedy.

 

[Steve in Vermont]

Conspiracy theories have always followed tragic events and this is no exception. From JFK to 911, conspiracies are alive and well. There's something in the psyche of some folks that can't accept something is simply what it is, there has to be more to a story and often the "government" is involved in a cover-up.

 

[StatesRightist]

So, you believe everything the Government says is 100% truthful and has no agenda? Okey Dokey, next in line.....

 

[Will Carry]

For crying out load! Anyone who thinks this is a conspiracy needs to remove their tin foil hat, log off the internet and get back on their medication.

 

[StatesRightist]

For those who are unclear, hoax means:

hoax (hks)
n.
1. An act intended to deceive or trick.
2. Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means.
tr.v. hoaxed, hoax·ing, hoax·es

In other words changing the facts, accentuating parts of the story, having someone claim a role they did not have etc is hoax. Hoax does not always mean the event did not happen, it could be the facts afterward are manipulated to achieve a desired goal.

As I said first sentence it happened, but there is reason to believe a lot of the facts have been manipulated. If you thinking is finite enough to believe it was all simply to support an AWB bill, so be it. My point was to ask people to consider all agendas.

 

[Zactical]

It's definitely hard to just believe what they tell us....

Initial reports I read were that 2 Handguns were used and the Rifle was found in the car....

All the sudden the next day there is an OUtcry about Bushmaster (AR15)Rifles because it was used in the shooting, HUH?

So, yes, I do find it hard to just believe what the Government is saying

 

[StatesRightist]

For crying out load! Anyone who thinks this is a conspiracy needs to remove their tin foil hat, log off the internet and get back on their medication.

Hoax, see definition above.....maybe you need the anger management. Ordinarily people don't react to a post put up to get people to think or ask questions as over the top as you. I am certainly not saying it did not happen or Lanza was not involved.

 

[Pointshoot]

Personally, I havent seen enough hard evidence to support some of these allegations that the event was somehow 'managed'. I try to keep open minded regarding any facts as they come up - and will do so if that happens.

 

[Zactical]

Hoax, see definition above.....maybe you need the anger management. Ordinarily people don't react to a post put up to get people to think or ask questions as over the top as you. I am certainly not saying it did not happen or Lanza was not involved.

Agreed, Some people are CLOSE-MINDED

 

[sambuh]

A managed event??after the fact yes. A conspiracy? No. End of story. This kind of nonsense is kind of absurd.

 

[sigp220.45]

I'm sure there are people on the other side of the fence who think the whole thing was engineered to increase NRA membership.

Initial reports are always wrong. Almost every mass shooting with a single guy has a "second shooter" reported initially. Its just human nature.

I'm sure the rifle was used in the shooting. To get every cop, first responder, and employee at the medical examiner's office to go along with falsifying wounds and planting .223 empties at the scene would be impossible.

 

[snubbyfan]

It's obvious to me that the facts of the event are being manipulated to satisfy their personal agenda. That agenda being to further control and monitor the American public. Watching the videos of the event, the gun found in the trunk was obviously not an AR and wasn't used in the shootings.
It just sickens me that a tragic event such as this is being used, manipulated and lied about by the media to push a ban on the so called "assault rifles," that weren't even present in the shooting.
After the "Fast and Furious" fiasco it's not hard to believe that our Goverment is using these shootings to push for even more gun control. Then what? The Nazis used gun registration to take guns away from law abiding citizens as a step toward totalitarianism.
I'm not normally a tin foil hat wearing, conspiracy theory, paranoid but being of Native American descent and fully aware of the lies of the US Goverment, I gotta admit I'm a little worried.

 

[Kelly Green]

Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen: JFK, 9-11, the Holocaust, UFO's and the list goes on and on. Some even believe that the moon landing was a staged event.

Conspiracy theories feed on a person's already-established worldview. Remember Occam's razor: The simplest conclusion is usually the right one.

 

[feralmerril]

Are we hinting that certain politicians or king makers are ready and able to find assassins to kill a school full of kids to manufacture a excuse to get more gun regulations to get all our guns?
I will admit that has happened since the dawn of time in other countries and is still happening in other places. Its hard to believe such evil is happening here. In the first place this kind of thing is going to happen anyway once in awhile without taking a chance of anyone sticking their neck out in a conspiracy to engineer. What sane person wouldn`t think that they would be eliminated to get rid of the evidence afterward? Oh, thats right, none of these shooters were sane.
King heriod had all male boys eliminated to hold his power. Oswalds last words were, "Im a patsy!" Still, I am not ready to belive anyone in this country would do that.

 

[crofoot629]

Gotta run, there's a black helo above.

Emory

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Hard To Kill

 

[Grayfox]

I also saw the reports of a 2nd shooter and that the rifle was in the car. No idea if they are true or not.
However, I have absolutely no doubt that the government or the media would manipulate the "facts" to suit their own agenda.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

I've heard that thing about the rifle being in the car too. Would like for someone to definitively say what bullets were used to put this one to rest.

 

[venomballistics]

I only have three solid facts
1) the school got shot up
2) people died
3) Agendas are being pushed upon the blood of children.
as far as what happened specifically ... that will never come out, we should know better.
so much has been fabricated and contorted by the media and others that I even question the body count.
The felonious acts extend far beyond the bloodshed

 

[mc5aw]

In other words changing the facts, accentuating parts of the story, having someone claim a role they did not have etc is hoax. Hoax does not always mean the event did not happen, it could be the facts afterward are manipulated to achieve a desired goal.

I will offer a simple, one-word response ...

Benghazi.

 

[feralmerril]

MC5aw; you might add: Vince foster in the same breath and people involved.

 

[SandW_itch]

Hoax? Probably not. Managed aftermath? Probably. I do know it was one of the worst reported news stories I've seen. Lots of conflicting information from the start.

 

[keith44spl]

what is the end goal? , just think and consider all possibilities.

As to the incidents of late...
No matter how ya cut it, it all stinks!


My point being....I believe very little of anything I read or hear and
sumtimes things that I witness my ownself.

Su Amigo,
Dave

 

[williamlayton]

I have read some of the conspiracy material.
Folks---the early media blitz that evolved around a very sad event is largely to blame.
A reporter who is seeming working on commission goes looking for a strory.
he talks to a policman who is grauring a road block and the policeman says he heard so & so.
Then he talks to a bystander who says her BIL-first ex-wifesfriend has a cousin who was in the building and THEY said.
This is the reason they don't allow hear say evidence.
But, by the time the police begin to patch together the facts--at least a day later--and give it to the news there are many who have already head all the facts and they were certainly not the same as the government is saying now so it is a cover-up and a conspiracy.
Folks take a deep breath---get some oxygen and let's wait to see what really happened. It does not matter that we are the last to know.
Blessings

 

[feralmerril]

I belive this case is as simple as it appears. However there are cases we never will hear the truth on like kennedys assassination, vince foster`s supposedly impossable suicide, marlines monroes death etc. That is, we MIGHT hear the truths on judgement day. I really belive all the above had conspiracy elaments and I THINK I am 90% right in my mind as to who and why all were done.

 

[tom turner]

I've seen blurry photos of the "rifle" in the trunk. Looks like the shape of a shotgun to me but it is hard to tell.

HOWEVER . . .

I real time, the early reports were that "two pistols, both 9mm were used. A Glock and a Sig Sauer. That means probably a Model 17 or 19, and a 226. THAT kind of SPECIFIC information makes it hard for me to see how later it was a Bushmaster. A Bushy doesn't look like a Glock or a Sig Sauer.

I'm not one of those tin foil guys, but I do smell a rat here. We'll never know for sure, for the really powerful polictians moved in real fast with their agendas on this one. I'm thinking the pistols did the job though.

 

[StatesRightist]

Many of you get the point to my post, some missed it.

Most people are aware enough to get there are some facts being distorted in this event. That leads to how much distortion is there? is it intentional and for what goal?

My primary points are these:

1. The event is being purposely used/manipulated to forward and agenda. The agenda and it's pushers could care less abut the kids, just the leverage it provides.

2. Assuming it's intentional manipulation of the facts, what's the goal? TO:

a. Get your 30 round magazine and a AWB Ban and that's it?
b. Start down the path to getting them all?
c. Disarm the American public to make us docile for whatever end goal?

You need to decide which of the above you think, that logically, should then decide what level of resistance you are going to put up to this latest effort at gun control.

3. The more gun owners can conclusively show was not true as told by the event tellers/shapers, the better job we can do discussing the actual issues of these events, not just evil guns with the undecided.

I personally think there is more to the agenda and this is important to our future because it's about more that just getting my AR. You'll have to decide for yourself. Join the NRA, call/write the proper people, but have a definitive course of action planned if it comes down to worst case scenarios.