The dreaded “It’s the gun or me” gauntlet...

Over the last couple years i've had a few guys coming in to the shop to sell off guns because their wife wanted them to get rid of those "nasty guns". Can't see that....unless they had a deep psychological fear of weapons and i sure wouldn't want anyone like that in my life. I've told them straight out that they shouldn't put up with that kind of thing but i usually end up buying their guns. Hope they feel it was worth it.
 
We used to go to the range at least every other weekend. When his relationship got serious she decided they needed to get married and found a bigger place. Then she found out about his gun…

How does a guy who likes guns and goes to the range all the time date a woman long enough to marry her but she never knows he has a gun and likes shooting? What else was your buddy hiding from her?
 
That was you? I have always wondered if you sold it...

I think that it's ironic that YOU should come up with that since it's my understanding that you're a cop in Hollywood (?)...

I was living in an apartment at Yucca & Argyle (a block from Hollywood and a block from Vine) when the bike was stolen. The only thing I had left was the cut in two Master Lock - They even took the chain.

Cops came, took a report, and told me to get over it - It's gone.

Not very long after that I was gone too.
 
Many years ago, I know'd an old feller that got married.
He had taken a horse and buggy to the church for them to go home in.
They was headed home and the old mare stumbled.
The feller sez "That's once"
They went on their way and the old gal stumbled agin.
"That's twice"
On the third occurance, the ol boy pulls out a pistol and shoots the old mare.
The new bride plumb throws a fit. She chews on him sumthin' fierce.
He sets there plumb quiet until she run out of wind and sed,
"That's once!"
They lived happily ever after....;):D
 
Any "it's me or <whatever thing you like>" before you get married is a great thing. Let's you know you need to bail. Some people just refuse to listen.

How did the guy in the OP's marriage turn out?
 
Would never give up my guns for anyone! Thankfully, my wife is as pro-gun as I am. The only problem we ever had was when I spent money that I shouldn't have to purchase one. She has her CCW permit and I send my revolver with her when she travels alone, which is rare.
 
I covered that with my ex prior to the 'I DO' part and then when the time came, they tried to get the house, the cars, the motorcycles, the guns and the dog. The lawyer got the money, the ex got a suitcase.
People that are nuts in their dislike of guns are just plain not right in the head anyway.
 
I remember telling my wife when we were dating that I hunted, had guns etc. It helped though that several members of her family hunt, even though she really isn't into that. I also had her shoot a revolver when we were dating and she loved it. The rules of the house are, as long as the bills are paid and the kid is fed, if there is any extra money and I want a gun, well then I can get one. Works that way with the other stuff too, and with what ever she likes.
I used to see alot of this sort of thing of gun shows when helping my friend out. Someone would start to look at a gun and then the missus would get riled and say something like "You're not getting another gun." Or "You're not having one in the house!" Personally if I had someone like that, I wouldn't have her around long.
Remember what Obi Wan Kenobi said "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." So unless you want to be married to Darth Vader, pre-screen your women folk.
 
Lots of ammo here.

My mother hated guns. She tolerated them because my dad's only real hobby was hunting and fishing. Most of his time he was working or taking care of us (the kids.) When I was getting married, she tried to interfere. She picked her time when my wife to be and I were at their house. She kind of forcefully said "you're not taking that gun collection with you, are you?" My wife to be didn't bite, she ignored it. Later when mother tried again to impose her anti gun views, she just said she grew up in a house full of guns, and kind of expected we'd have them, too. The gun collection was a pistol, a rifle, and a shotgun. :( I was impoverished by college.

About 10 years later I had a good friend. Ole Hutch was hard on equipment, to say the least. He'd bought a new Jeep in the 77-78 period like a bunch of us. But he'd managed to blow up a few motors. Guess the old 304s weren't up to his abuse. And all the guys would pull together and find him a new motor and put it in. Not rocket science. Junked AMC V8s were cheap.

So one afternoon we were playing up at the dam. Old Hutch got in the throttle a bit much and another one bit the dust. It was about 30 miles from his home. So I did my duty, hooked up my tow rope and started pulling him toward home. I didn't mind, he was a good friend who would do anything for you. But it was still daylight out, so he started blowing the horn about 2/3rds of the way home. He wanted to pull into a car wash while the mud was still soft (its easier to work on a clean vehicle.)

It had the double benefit of it getting dark. One of our following vehicles took the lead and drove down his street, telling us on the CB there was a place open in front of his house, but a better one a block up the road (where we wouldn't have to go past his house.) So we very quietly rolled down the street, him whipping into the spot. But she was waiting and saw. She came out screaming. And with the ultimatum. Either the jeep goes, or she does. And there was no quieting her down.

So he just calmly told her how much he loves her. But then followed it by pointing out if she got away with it, she'd just pull it again and again. Then he told her he'd miss her, but the jeep stays, and he really wanted her to stay, too. They're still married.

I've also heard it said that marriage is just a series of compromises. And you'll make all of them. :(

But don't feel too sorry for my wife. A couple of years ago (make it 2007) I sold a Colt SAA to one of our members here (his FFL, actually). Then I took the money and bought her a Christmas present with it. A nice pendant, I mean a really nice one. Guns, jewelry, it doesn't really matter any more. The difference is I sold the gun without her knowing about it. Then bought her a present without her knowing. She was gracious and accepted it. The best present I've ever given.
 
How does a guy who likes guns and goes to the range all the time date a woman long enough to marry her but she never knows he has a gun and likes shooting? What else was your buddy hiding from her?

It went long distance when the USN moved him to Jax, FL and she stayed in NY. He met me and I try to make a convert of anyone that shows the slightest interest. When she moved South she thought I was a "bad influance" on him with my dangerous hobby. Then he told her about his gun. It went over the course of a week before she was there and the issue came up. So nothing hidden. Just short notice.
 
The Old Fella came into the tavern the other day with a hangdog look on his face. I asked him what the problem was. He said his wife had just given him an ultimatum that he had to choose between his fishing and her. I said that was a tough choice. He responded by saying, yes, it was and I sure am gonna miss her!
 
Any "it's me or <whatever thing you like>" before you get married is a great thing. Let's you know you need to bail. Some people just refuse to listen.

How did the guy in the OP's marriage turn out?

I'm just going to plead the 5th on this one. I will admit I know he adores his children.
 
F. Scott Fitzgerald, in the Great Gatsby and elsewhere created a fictional poet, Thomas Park D'Invellieres, who wrote:
Then wear the gold hat, if that will move her;
If you can bounce high, bounce high for her too,
Till she cry "Lover, gold-hatted, high-bouncing lover,
I must have you!"
When I read that in high school, I thought how true! Looking back, I think "What nonsense!," and suspect that Fitzgerald meant it as the path to a doomed relationship as well.

I think for a marriage to work both people have to be comfortable and accept the other person as they are. My first marriage did not work out. I married young at 23. From my point of view I tried to do everything I could to make my first wife happy, trying to somehow reinvent myself into the man I thought she wanted me to be. By the time I was 30 I was miserable, and so was she. So I left.

I decided that I would stop trying to change myself, something I had done with every girl/woman I had ever been close to up to that point in my life.

Found another gal and after we hit it off I told her, "Look,what you see is what you get. I ain't changin'. Been there and done that and it does not work for me. So though I love you dearly, if you don't like the way I am you'd best leave me." She said, "Okay. I understand. I love you just like you are." She stayed, and I am very happy in my second marriage, now some 20 years in, and so is she. We do not know any other couples as close as we are.

And you know, the funny thing? Without any conscious thought on my part, she has changed me in many ways for the better. :)

I also believe that all successful marriages are unique: Who the heck knows why some couples succeed while others do not? It is a very individual thing, how two people match up. Often I will think "What does he see in her" or vice versa. At other times I will be surprised that a seemingly perfect couple is separating after many years. For whatever reason, some folks just click, and others do not.. Other people's marriages are a mystery to me, and I imagine mine is to them as well.
 
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That is why I always let serious girlfriends know about my gun habit. Those few that got all, "those are evil the must be gotten rid of" were. And I'm not talking about the guns.
 
A number of years ago a good friend (so I thought) gave me a choice between her continued friendship or the person I was then going out with. My response was that before she told me that she had already made the choice. I haven't seen or heard from her since about Sept '87. I guess no loss on my part.
It wasn't one of the marriage type relationships but still I didn't care for being given that kind of choice and it showed me where I stood in the relationship with my friend.
 
My dad grew up in the mountains of northern Alabama on a farm/ranch. He hunted to supply the family with meat. He was a Combat Veteran of WWII. He and my mother married in 1947 after he was released from the Army. He spent two years after WWII hunting German War Criminals. After they had been married a couple of weeks, my mother came into the living room and pointed a finger at the bedroom and said, "there's guns in the closet, get them out of here. I won't live in a house with guns". My father went into the bedroom with my mother close behind and went into the closet, took down two large suitcases and opened my mother's chest of drawers and started putting her garmets in one of the suit cases. She ask him what he was doing and he said "Helping you pack to leave". She ask him what he ment and he told her he had lived with firearms all of his life and he wasn't about to give them up, so he figured that she would leave. She didn't.

Thirty three years later we were having a family picnic at a range that I shot on. My dad and my kids and I were shooting. My mother ask how two little girls could shoot a gun and I told because they have been properly taught safety and the mechanics of shooting. She said, "Let me try it".

I let her shoot a little Smith Model 18 and my mother became a die hard shooter that day. My mom and dad spent many a happy day in their later lives shooting at rifle and pistol ranges. After my dad passed, I used to take my mother to an indoor range about once a month so she could pratice with her Smith Model 36 with a three inch barrel I gave her. Her bedside gun.

I got the Smith 36 back when she passed away three years ago, I much rather have her with us than the 36.

Rule 303
 
Originally Posted by DeadAye
The old man laid these words of wisdom on me:
"The motorcycle is just the beginning kid - What's next? What will you HAVE to give up after that?"

True statement. I know. I was married at 19. Too young, too immature, and too inexperienced.

I was divorced by 31 after giving up a lot just to keep her happy.

I was single for 7 1/2 years and then met my current wife. She's never made a demand and neither do I, we like each other too much.
 
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