Thinking about a MP15-22 just so

[BlueMax_VMF114]

And this post is goin where?? time for a full lock down ,sounds like hes just trolling for a fight,dont give him any ammo Lynn

 

[kennyb]

With all of 15 posts to his credit, my guess is you could read his name as "Bubbatroll".

yes....a +1...look at the posts

 

[Lynn]

And this post is goin where?? time for a full lock down ,sounds like hes just trolling for a fight,dont give him any ammo Lynn

Thank God air support has arrived!


Oh, I know that dear. I think though, some trolls like to plant ideas too, and I just felt that B ES needed a good counterin.

I think he's waxed good now though.

 

[Topher]

it can take "a ride on the FedEx truck." Several of you are so giddy that S&W will step up and sell you a $500+ rifle that immediately needs to go back to the factory to be fixed.....However there must be 10-12 threads going on where the same few chime in for no apparent reason other than to praise what is obviously a defective product.

Thousands of people own M&P 15 22s, If it was a defective product OBVIOUSLY there would be a substantially larger amount of people complaining on these forums, instead of praising it... And if you are wondering why it's the same 10-12 people who "chime in for no apparent reason to praise it" it's because the majority feel no need to sign up for these forums because they are out enjoying their 15-22s and don't need advice on a problem... Although I wanted to sign up anyway because I was surprised how reliable and accurate mine was out of the box, oh how I LOVE my defective rifle. How's that for sarcasm... Am I immature like you now Bubba, I want to join the club.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

When the 15-22 began to really take off a while back, S&W was swamped with orders beyond their wildest dreams. It is because they were so overwhelmed, that some rifles made it out the door, without first getting final adjustments.

That's some interesting inside baseball you're posting.

Assembly process procedures, including final inspection, are typically quite rigid for any manufacturer. I'm surprised S&W would publicly state such a thing especially since they have publicly repeated there is "no issues" with this rifle. In any case, I'd be interested to know where this information is coming from regarding S&W altering production procedures to accomodate production volume.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Thousands of people own M&P 15 22s, If it was a defective product OBVIOUSLY there would be a substantially larger amount of people complaining on these forums, instead of praising it...

Not sure of the 'obvious' deduction. That more than one person here reported the feed ramp cracking off is pretty bizarre to begin with. How many times have you heard of that happening with any and all firearms during your entire life? I'll answer; Not very many.

For what it is worth... A couple weeks ago I happened to mention to Carters in Harrison, TN, that I had picked up a 15-22. He asked me how mine was working because a S&W Rep had been by his store a while back with a 15-22. During a demonstration it repeatedly malfunctioned.

 

[Lynn]

That's some interesting inside baseball you're posting.

Assembly process procedures, including final inspection, are typically quite rigid for any manufacturer.

I, for one, would not assume that to be true of any and all manufactures. I have in the past, inadvertently, bought some really bad products that were made in China.

I do feel very secure though saying, that as you put it, "Assembly process procedures, including final inspection, are typically quite rigid", is very true for S&W.

Such is evidenced by S&Ws continuing high quality products, including the 15-22, and obviously their customer service, as always, remains prompt courteous and effective. Such is even made quite plain, by S&W customers themselves, both here and elsewhere.

I'm surprised S&W would publicly state such a thing especially since they have publicly repeated there is "no issues" with this rifle.

Now that is a rather confusing statement. Or, is that subtlety, which has gone right over my head? I know that I have not disclosed any "public statement" on behalf of S&W.

In any case, I'd be interested to know where this information is coming from regarding S&W altering production procedures to accomodate production volume.

I know that I, certainly did not intend to subtly imply or infer, that they, as you put it "altered procedures to accomodate production volume", and in fact no one said anything even remotely like that to me.

That would imply a purposeful act, on their part, when really they were just overwhelmed and some rifles were overlooked at final inspection.

They are just people, and btw it is in their best interest to do the best they can.

Their error has cost them a lot of money, in labor and shipping costs, etc., and doing such a thing on purpose would have been an act of sheer stupidity. I just don't think they are, "stupid business people", or they have some dark purpose and just hate their customers, or something.

As to my source. That is, as you well know, none of your business at all. You are though, of course free to assume the worst about S&W, and little old me too for that matter. I have learned over time, that some will do just that for whatever reason they have, and there is nothing I can do about it.

 

[Lynn]

Not sure of the 'obvious' deduction. That more than one person here reported the feed ramp cracking off is pretty bizarre to begin with.

Not sure your choice of the word "bizarre" applies to this.

So more than one. Like how many would that be, ChattanoogaPhil? Two or three ... reports? Or will you say, "no .... more .... than that", and there have been like, say less than five, perhaps even really being more than just "reports"?

You seem, a tad biased there ChattanoogaPhil, perhaps even hostile toward S&W. Just my opinion now.

How many times have you heard of that happening with any and all firearms during your entire life? I'll answer; Not very many.

Wow. You really must be amazingly well informed. Truly notable that you, dear ChattanoogaPhil, can answer for other people what they have heard during their entire life.

Hmmm .... "not very many" .... you really do have a way with the subtle implications of inferred statistics. Does Carl Rove know about you?

For what it is worth... A couple weeks ago I happened to mention to Carters in Harrison, TN, that I had picked up a 15-22. He asked me how mine was working because a S&W Rep had been by his store a while back with a 15-22. During a demonstration it repeatedly malfunctioned.

Amazing. That never happens with auto loading 22s. Then again, our Ruger 10/22 needed work and non Ruger made upgrade parts, to make it stop malfunctioning.

 

[Lynn]

Where did bubbanooga go?

 

[Gunzilla]

it can take "a ride on the FedEx truck." Several of you are so giddy that S&W will step up and sell you a $500+ rifle that immediately needs to go back to the factory to be fixed - but hey you get 2 free mags and your rifle gets a ride on a truck - that I want to get one too. Maybe I'll get one that'll blow shrapnel into somebody next to me. That would be so cool to get such a great rifle!!! Gosh we're so lucky to be able to buy these. Endless "congratulations" to everybody who has one, especially if it has blown parts out the ejection port. I'm just giddy thinking about getting one. I hear they're a "blast." Seriously, I've never seen such apologizing from the owners of a defective product. Talk about drinking the Kool-aid. Geez.

There's a mental midget in every crowd! So....welcome Bubba! If you like the 15-22 so much you are going to be falling all over yourself for the Walther G22.

Not sure how many semi-auto .22lr rifles you've owned but this is easily the best of all the ones I've ever owned!

It's bad enough that you're stupid but coming here to display it is just flat-out moronic.

 

[Lynn]

I have read from several sources, of how privately funded organizations have set up boiler rooms full of computers, in church and synagogue basements etc., and how they have staffed them with volunteers, who flood forums with posts, designed to subtly advance their agenda.

Among the types of forums targeted are those for gun enthusiasts. On such forums many posts are made by them, which contain either greatly exaggerated or outright false reports, which are designed to discourage sales of specific types of weapons they want kept out of people's hands. It would not surprise me at all to learn, that relatively inexpensive semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, regardless of caliber, are very high on their list.

I wonder if something like this is happening here? Think of all the many slanderous subtle inferences, and even those bold outright ridiculous false accusations, that have been made against S&W here just lately.

Other companies like Kel-Tec, which make several "scary evil black guns" available at low cost, have long been wrongly accused of making cheap junk. They are not junk. They may not be safe queens, but junk they are not.

Could it be that rumors are being spread by agenda driven "volunteers", who posting as gun enthusiasts make posts designed to discourage potential gun buyers, from buying those guns they wish they could ban?

 

[Topher]

Not sure of the 'obvious' deduction.

So if there are tons of people with problems with their 15-22s as some here believe, there won't be an increase in the amount of people complaining or asking for advice on these forums? That make's sense. Sure, not everyone with 15-22 problems will post here but most do to try and get help before they resort to calling S&W and sending it in.

I've had only 2 FtFs 0 FtEs in 700 rds of various ammo, Glad I got a cherry and not a lemon.

 

[Mahoney1988]

M & P 15-.22

Hey everyone just wanted to chim in and tell everyone my opinion on the new Smith and Wesson 22. I was skeptic of the gun at first also.. I was actually going to buy it but waited for about a month before I talked myself into it. Since then I have added aftermarket Bushnell scope , aftermarket grip and forearm grip to it. Also getting ready to have the barrel threaded and add a flash suppressor on the end of barrel.. I put over 1000 bullets through it the first month I had the gun with not on problem besides the fact that it only came with one mag. I also bought 3 more for the gun.

I have found nothing wrong with mine and sucks to hear other people having problems with theirs. I love mine and almost like shooting it about as much as my big AR.223. Besides just is not the same without the sound and recoil . I recommend buying the S&W 15-.22 or at least test firing a friends.

 

[27 Beck]

Hey everyone just wanted to chim in and tell everyone my opinion on the new Smith and Wesson 22. I was skeptic of the gun at first also.. I was actually going to buy it but waited for about a month before I talked myself into it. Since then I have added aftermarket Bushnell scope , aftermarket grip and forearm grip to it. Also getting ready to have the barrel threaded and add a flash suppressor on the end of barrel.. I put over 1000 bullets through it the first month I had the gun with not on problem besides the fact that it only came with one mag. I also bought 3 more for the gun.

I have found nothing wrong with mine and sucks to hear other people having problems with theirs. I love mine and almost like shooting it about as much as my big AR.223. Besides just is not the same without the sound and recoil . I recommend buying the S&W 15-.22 or at least test firing a friends.

Welcome to the forum and congrats on your 15-22.

I do think that your waiting for a month or so to buy your rifle worked to your advantage. I know I bought the first one my local Gander Mountain store got in stock. Getting one of the first probably led to my issues with the extractor going out on my rifle. Since it has been repaired it has worked great.

 

[TxShooter2k9]

Hey everyone just wanted to chim in and tell everyone my opinion on the new Smith and Wesson 22. I was skeptic of the gun at first also.. I was actually going to buy it but waited for about a month before I talked myself into it. Since then I have added aftermarket Bushnell scope , aftermarket grip and forearm grip to it. Also getting ready to have the barrel threaded and add a flash suppressor on the end of barrel.. I put over 1000 bullets through it the first month I had the gun with not on problem besides the fact that it only came with one mag. I also bought 3 more for the gun.

I have found nothing wrong with mine and sucks to hear other people having problems with theirs. I love mine and almost like shooting it about as much as my big AR.223. Besides just is not the same without the sound and recoil . I recommend buying the S&W 15-.22 or at least test firing a friends.

Welcome and congrads on your new 15-22, good to see you had good luck and as 27 Beck said, I think waiting was a + for you, i too, got some of the first that my local Academy had, and i had issues, but s&w took care of them quickly, and ive been having a great time with the gun.

 

[floatch]

I have read from several sources, of how privately funded organizations have set up boiler rooms full of computers, in church and synagogue basements etc., and how they have staffed them with volunteers, who flood forums with posts, designed to subtly advance their agenda.

Among the types of forums targeted are those for gun enthusiasts. On such forums many posts are made by them, which contain either greatly exaggerated or outright false reports, which are designed to discourage sales of specific types of weapons they want kept out of people's hands. It would not surprise me at all to learn, that relatively inexpensive semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, regardless of caliber, are very high on their list.

I wonder if something like this is happening here? Think of all the many slanderous subtle inferences, and even those bold outright ridiculous false accusations, that have been made against S&W here just lately.

Other companies like Kel-Tec, which make several "scary evil black guns" available at low cost, have long been wrongly accused of making cheap junk. They are not junk. They may not be safe queens, but junk they are not.

Could it be that rumors are being spread by agenda driven "volunteers", who posting as gun enthusiasts make posts designed to discourage potential gun buyers, from buying those guns they wish they could ban?

I'm not personally attacking you Lynn, but unless you have seen these boiler room misinformation centers yourself, I'm calling BS here. Also, not to derail the conversation or threadjack, but your talk of end times and your use of the word Them and They above kinda freak me out. Nobody is spreading misinformation to further an agenda!
Remington ammo broke the extractor on my M&P 15-22! That's all! I posted in the hopes that other owners would avoid Remington ammo, and the hassle it's caused for me.

Let's all stay on track here.

 

[Lynn]

I'm not personally attacking you Lynn, but unless you have seen these boiler room misinformation centers yourself, I'm calling BS here. Also, not to derail the conversation or threadjack, but your talk of end times and your use of the word Them and They above kinda freak me out. Nobody is spreading misinformation to further an agenda!
Remington ammo broke the extractor on my M&P 15-22! That's all! I posted in the hopes that other owners would avoid Remington ammo, and the hassle it's caused for me.

Let's all stay on track here.

lol

I only said I had read about, dare I say, 'them', and I wondered if that could be going on here. As for my use of the words "them" and "they", well your take on my having used, oh oh, them, is just plain comical.

Now please don't worry. I don't feel personally attacked by you at all, and in fact I really enjoyed you post.

 

[Lynn]

That was a hoot!

 

[Thomas_H]

There's one little detail that I think everyone forgets. The S&W15-22 owners on this forum, or any forum, do not represent an accurate cross section of S&W15-22 owners. I'm willing to bet (on the conservative side) for every one 15-22 that you hear having a problem, there are > 100 that are enjoying their rifle with no issues whatsoever. Or at least no more problems than you would have with any other .22 LR autoloading platform.

There's an old saying in the business world that holds true. You please a customer, they will tell 1-2 people about the experience. Piss off a customer, they will tell anybody and everybody that will listen.

 

[jarhead1991]

I have two 15-22’s (I have twin nephews and twin boys) and they have both worked flawlessly… I first bought a Umarex M4-22 and I didn’t care for it – I couldn’t be more happy with my S&W 15-22, very accurate, very reliable and very easy to clean & maintain.

I strongly recommend this .22 for anyone looking for a good “fun gun” or for teaching youth to shoot…