Update on showing a late night druggie my 27-2 in 3.5"

[model70hunter]

While we were in the process of moving our stuff to our retirement home we put together the masterbed room bed and was sound a sleep.

At 12:30 AM a fellow obviously high pounded on our door, I took the SW 27-2 in 3.5" and answered the knock.

The gent eyed me and I could see his wheels spinning, he finally blurted out do you have an extra egg. I said, NO, and it is not healthy to knock on folks doors late at night. I also let the SW slide from the back of my leg. He eyes got as big as sunnyside up eggs and he took off running.

Today we were cleaning up overgrown brush and tree limbs at our house. I had just gone in the house for a few minutes and this same gent was walking by, he asked my wife if she needed help with the tree limbs, she said no, he said he had a chain saw and wouldn't charge much to cut them, she said no thanks my husband will use ours. My wife is an RN, and has experience with psycho's and drug users. He said are you looking at my eyes? She said yes, my, my they are very blood shot, haven't slept in a day or so have you?

If you don't think wives can drill down, try sneaking a M-19 4" Nickle by her on a credit card. Well it's hers now, All I could think of was, Gee Dear you just spoiled your Birthday present.

She asked him several other questions, one was he lives with his parents a few blocks away and got to the big one, aren't you the fellow that knocked on our door wanting an egg last July. He said yes, he said he wanted a cigarette but saw the big fellow filling up the door way and panicked. She said did you see anything else? He said a very large gun. She said are you going to ever come around here after dark again? He said no, he might get shot. My wife said yes, the big guy with the big gun was a cop, he knows when he can shoot you, where to shoot you and there won't be any survivors. She then gave him the mother lecture on getting straight, getting a job, doing something with your life. During the lecture he excused himself and left. Gee, all morning I had been carrying that 3.5" in my hip pocket.

No fair, my wife gets all the fun. I hope it's not a crime to lecture a druggie to death........

 

[feralmerril]

He sounds mentaly challanged too. Years ago I was up late watching tv, about 11:30 pm. There was a knock on my door. No one since my wild single days would visit me that late. I picked up a nickle 2 1/2" python and answered the door. A young black man around 20 years old wanted to know "If ths is where the party is?" I let him see that shiny python dangling on my side and told him there was no party here, now git! I thought I would have to shovel his eye balls off my door step!

 

[cmort666]

She then gave him the mother lecture on getting straight, getting a job, doing something with your life.

Easier said than done these days.

Of course it's a lot easier done if you're NOT a pathetic burnout.

I have sympathy for people with problems.

I have little sympathy for people who create their own.

 

[hangnoose]

TIPPING YOUR HAND

A simple "the police have already been called" may have worked as well, granted not as much fun, but now 2 creeps know where to go to steal guns.

 

[Maze 686]

I never answer the door after dark.
I'll go to the window and ask what they want, gun in hand of course.
They never know that the gun is there and they can't rush you.

 

[Dave from Pa]

Answer the door with somthing you don`t min losing,when a gun goes to evidence you usually never see it again.

 

[feralmerril]

Again, both these incidents turned out well for us as we are obvisley here. As I just said on another popular thread, why argue and pick apart and secound guess success?

 

[Alpo]

Again, both these incidents turned out well for us as we are obvisley here. As I just said on another popular thread, why argue and pick apart and secound guess success?

Because that's the PURPOSE of internet forums.

Couple of weeks ago, about 10:30 PM. Doorbell rings. I pick up a pistol and walk to the door. Flip on the porch light, look though the window in the door (about 8" square). Can't see nobody on the porch, but there is someone on the walk, about ten feet back, just at the edge of the light cast by the buglight on the porch.

I hollered through the door, "What do you want?"

Weren't no way in hell I was opening the door that late at night. Might have been somebody on both sides of the door, that I couldn't see from the window, waitin' to grab me when I opened the door and stepped out.

There weren't, but there mighta been.

 

[feralmerril]

I do agree with the idea that we all can learn from other`s experiances. I see model70hunter is or was a LEO. I am sure he must have a vast amount of experiance to draw from as I have. I spent most my life as a graveyard guard for lockheed aircraft a huge place and lived in the dark and answered various calls and checked out people, lost, tresspassers, drunks etc sometimes several times a night. Now I realise most people dont have model 70s or my experiance and generic advice might be safer for the multitudes. I will give you that. It is kind of fun to relate some of those experiances here and there, though. I aint got nothing else but memories.

 

[Hack]

Meth head. He'll end up DOA somewhere.

 

[GaryS]

He sounds mentaly challanged too.

Drugs will do that to you. I think that's why they call it "Dope".

 

[GaryS]

Answer the door with somthing you don`t min losing,when a gun goes to evidence you usually never see it again.

I think that all depends on where you live.

 

[UncaGrunny]

Goes to show, even a doped-up fool can dredge up a correct answer when properly motivated.

 

[Smoke]

Massad Ayoob "Don't Answer The Door!!!" - YouTube

There is nothing I can say here that Masaad Ayoob can't say better

 

[feralmerril]

Time for another war story. When I was a lockheed guard back around 1975 era: I was just getting off work at 8 am on a sunday morning. Some people were working that sunday and were comeing to work. We got a call that there was a man in a womans bathroom. I was already punched outut decided to go with the respondng day shift officer as he was a newby.
We found this drugged out guy and he was totaly out of his mind! I have never seen a human that filthy before in my life! He did take a swipe at me but was no danger as he was so emancipated. He was so filthy no one wanted to ride with him in the ambulance to the hospital so I did. This guy had messed in his pants long ago and it was caked on him etc. Checking him out I found he had worked at lockheed but had been fired weeks or a month or two prior. I am sure he had been living in the attics of the factory since being fired and probley hitting garbage cans etc for discarded sandwichs. Kind of like the hunchback of notre dame!
Maybe a month or two later the local paper had a article of a serial rapist they were looking for and there was a police artist`s drawing of him that looked exactly like the guy and of course I dropped a dime as to who it was. I probley didnt need to as no doubt many other people would reconise the picture and knew him.
I can remember two other cases where I was involved in busting one thief employee who got fired, then shortly later was murdered in a drug deal and another ex worker that that tried to get back in the plant and we had to run him down. Shortly after that he comitted suicide. I had liked him. In all three of those cases drugs was behind it.

 

[feralmerril]

I didnt take time to watch the video but agree that most of this advice and training is made with the fact in mind that they are talking to 95% of people of all level of ages, disabilites, inexperiance etc. All leo`s, guards etc have to have confidence, some agressivness and confident demeaner or the country wold have about 100 X`s prroblems we already have. Long, long ago I made up my mind will not live in fear. I suspect most leo, military, guards and hopefully many other people come to that conclusion. I dont know how many times I have said here and elsewhere that a good "Demeaner" is your biggest friend and weapon. In all the reading I have done its amazing that that subject isnt pounded to death but the truth is you hardly if ever read of it.
Of course you cant get a good demeaner in the area of self confidence if you dont have the training, ability and strength to feel it so others can feel it off you. Bt it also go`s much farther than just that part of it. Part of it also is what you DONT DO. Comeing off demeaning, cocky etc.
I`m done.

 

[Iggy]

Da-meaner your demeanor is, the more you scare them..

 

[feralmerril]

That`s priceless Iggy!!!

 

[Maze 686]

I didnt take time to watch the video but agree that most of this advice and training is made with the fact in mind that they are talking to 95% of people of all level of ages, disabilites, inexperiance etc. All leo`s, guards etc have to have confidence, some agressivness and confident demeaner or the country wold have about 100 X`s prroblems we already have. Long, long ago I made up my mind will not live in fear. I suspect most leo, military, guards and hopefully many other people come to that conclusion. I dont know how many times I have said here and elsewhere that a good "Demeaner" is your biggest friend and weapon. In all the reading I have done its amazing that that subject isnt pounded to death but the truth is you hardly if ever read of it.
Of course you cant get a good demeaner in the area of self confidence if you dont have the training, ability and strength to feel it so others can feel it off you. Bt it also go`s much farther than just that part of it. Part of it also is what you DONT DO. Comeing off demeaning, cocky etc.
I`m done.

Confidence is one thing, stupidity is another.
Having spent 25 years as a law enforcement officer I can say that I have upset quite a few people over the years.

Thugs will kill you and not blink an eye, think about your family for a moment. You open your door and now you are the only thing between the thugs and your family.
Just so you are aware, your time working security is nothing like what I did in law enforcement or the people I dealt with. Nor have you had gang members put a bounty on your head before just because of your job.
I have been in hundreds of fights and was given the name "Strike Force" by co-workers. I taught Martial Arts for over thirty years and would not throw myself into a situation where the safety of my family is at risk because I opened a door at
0:dark thirty to show how bad I was.
I was a firearms instructor also and a member of the Special Operations Group. I would never tell anybody to answer their door after dark without identifing the person and their intention first. It has nothing to do with fear and everything to do with tactics.

 

[Rule3]

I never answer the door after dark.
I'll go to the window and ask what they want, gun in hand of course.
They never know that the gun is there and they can't rush you.

I don't answer the phone

We had some LEO's knock /ring the bell one night. I do not have a peep hole but have BRIGHT outside lights. I nuked them with lights, dog is tearing at the window,I asked who it was, they said Police, I asked him to move from the screened entrance out to the front window so I could see them first.

Then I opened the door. looking for some creep down the street, we had a nice chat, gun was in my pocket.