UPDATED - Moved to Copenhagen, Denmark...

Income tax rate in Sweden averages +50%. You buy a car, you buy another for the govt. The govt provides a lot of benefits but they have to be paid for by someone. The worker bees. Nothing is free, for the worker bee.

Its not? How is that, in 2013, 106 million Americans work a full time job. 109 million plus receive government benefits of some sort. So, in your mind how exactly is a worker bee funding all these programs?

Regardless of tax rates or what you think is something that is not. No other country allows immigrates to come into their country get all governmental benefits (welfare, tax credits, et. al.), DMV registration, and voter applications. My family will be fine, they all made the money when the money was there to be made. I have been to Mexico and can read and speak Spanish enough to get by.

It is not just the government, they push an agenda but they also allowed all these large corporations to propagate that agenda. Educational cost (now there are scholarship lotteries) has tripled and quadrupled over the past 20-30 years while college related jobs have shrunk and been reduced. I would not put a kid or myself through college these days without either a job that reimbursed the tuition or a scholarship. The potential return on investment, and future income is not enough to warrant the potential costs. Yet, schools have record enrollment for jobs that do not exist. I have lots of experience and work 2 jobs to get by. I can tell you that over half the jobs I have interviewed for in the past year do not even exist. They continue to post and act like they are hiring but they are not and will not. The best you can do these days is work for a company and then hope to move up or get a better opportunity within that organization. I have never seen a market so unethical and morally corrupt as the way things are in this country today.
 
Denmark!

You are in for a remarkable adventure - one I doubt that you'll ever regret. My travel buddy is Scandinavian, and we spent a month in Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Iceland last fall. She is first generation American, born here, but lived some of her childhood back in Norway and Sweden. Also an educator, she is a linguist, and was a wonderful guide for a person who had never visited that region. I was so impressed! Like all countries, Denmark faces its share of challenges. But the beauty, history, friendly people, and life-style really offer some amazing chances for one to expand their horizons. Savor every moment of this unique opportunity!
 
Good luck with Denmark! If you can stay long enough to get citizenship that would be a huge bonus, and open up all kinds of options. It will let you live in any EU country in Europe.

I wish I had done it when I was younger, once you are over 45 it becomes much more difficult.
 
Sounds like a very good move on your part. Good luck with everything. It sounds like the Danes have fairly reasonable immigration laws, but a $10,000 bond seems way low to me. A $50,000 bond would be more in line with preventing dead beats from immigrating.
 
Friend of a friend has been working there for a few years. They upped his compensation package to cover the crazy high taxes over there. Also, as posted earlier, when you buy a car you also buy one for the govt.

I'd be concerned being an American, leaving the USA. Figure I'd be a target. Just my paranoia. With all its faults, I could never leave.
 
That's a lot....

That's a lot to be taken care of if you cover all the bases. I guess if you don't cover all the bases it would nix the whole thing. With all that it looks like you're on your way. Good luck and I can think of much worse places to live than Denmark. Hope your daughter does well, too and take advantage of having family around.:)
 
Denmark requires my daughter to have spent a specific amount of time there before she turns a certain age, or she will lose hers. If she spends the required amount of time there she will be a dual citizen her whole life no matter what.

Yes that is a lot of legal paperwork to be taking care of. But I ve had pretty good luck so far with US Immigration paperwork for my wife, coordinating my biometrics with the Danish Embassy in New York and the Danish Immigration paperwork for me. I am halfway there to being ready to buy plane tickets. Everyone has current passports and the dog even has a ISO Danish approved chip. The contact at my Danish gun club is going to start the importation paperwork tomorrow. I will probably call the US State Dept this week to try to get an idea of how long their part of the paperwork will take, I can't imagine it will be anything like waiting for an SBR stamp from the ATF. But I have been wrong before. :)

I wish you and your family a happy trip, and best of luck with your new chapter in your lives. The gun laws are not what we are used to here in the US, but perhaps you will still be able to enjoy what you are bringing. I lived in Denmark, and you will have no problem talking with people --a huge % speak English, and I think you will enjoy the attention because you are American.
Very friendly and accepting people--most take you for what you are-period.
Happy trails.

Mange tak= thank you.

Thank you,
Henry
 
Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I wouldn't call myself an expatriot, even though I might be considered one by some. I will always be a patriot.

You are American, period! Not sure if Denmark allows dual citizenship but love knows no boundaries, that's for sure. So as long as you are happy go for it!
 
Income tax rate in Sweden averages +50%. You buy a car, you buy another for the govt. The govt provides a lot of benefits but they have to be paid for by someone. The worker bees. Nothing is free, for the worker bee.


Ehrrr....Wrong.
Income tax is 30%
But as you say, taxes are what make our world tick :(
Gas tobaco and alcohol are heavily taxed :mad:

But i dont smoke and i drink very small amounts of alcohol
so you might say that i'm a tax evader :p
 
Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I wouldn't call myself an expatriot, even though I might be considered one by some. I will always be a patriot.


"Expat" is short for the word "expatriate" and has nothing to do with patriotism; just means one lives by choice outside of his or her native land.

Good luck to you, and enjoy the pastry opportunities! ;):D
 
Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I wouldn't call myself an expatriot, even though I might be considered one by some. I will always be a patriot.


"Expat" is short for the word "expatriate" and has nothing to do with patriotism; just means one lives by choice outside of his or her native land.

Good luck to you, and enjoy the pastry opportunities! ;):D

Thanks for clarifying that... I didnt even get the spelling right. :)
 
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Maybe if you go to Afghanistan. No one in Europe gives a hoot where you're from. Been there many times no one cares if you're American or Italian or Mongolian


So why would I want to go to Afghanistan? My post indicates I like it here and have no intention of leaving.
 
What? Americans anywhere in the world ARE attractive targets - to some people. They have been for at least the last four decades. I wouldn't worry about that overly much in Denmark, but I certainly wouldn't ignore the possibility either.
 
What? Americans anywhere in the world ARE attractive targets - to some people. They have been for at least the last four decades. I wouldn't worry about that overly much in Denmark, but I certainly wouldn't ignore the possibility either.

I agree, but you are probably are more likely to be targeted for a mugging or a car jacking here in Atlanta than you are to be targeted in Denmark for being an American.
 
Do what you and your wife think is best for your family. Best of luck and see all there is to see and do while you guys are there. Stay safe.
 
I have lived in Japan for 30 years. I think that there is nothing like living abroad to bring it home to one what it is like to be an American. This is because when you live overseas, in an alien culture, you feel different. You are different. You are treated differently. At times this is good, and at times it is bad, to be treated differently.

Japan is a culture with greater differences from ours than Europe, where I lived (Germany) for five years as a child, but still, even in a foreign Western culture, an American will feel different, and be a subject of some curiosity.

Living abroad will broaden your mind. I would argue that it makes you more of an American, and consciously so, at least in your own mind, than simply spending your entire life in the US.

I spent my professional career helping to facilitate the export of US products to Japan, which in turn created jobs in the US. So I think my living abroad was of benefit to the US.

To each his own, but I think living abroad is a positive experience. And I think more Americans with international experience is a good thing for our country.
 
There is a big World outside of the Good Old USA. Go and enjoy it and stop listening to propaganda. Americans are no more of a target than people from other countries including China and Japan. Denmark and Western Europe are a walk in the park. Ok guns are restricted but just about every other country in the World thinks US gun laws are madness. It's a cultural thing, when in Rome.................
 
Denmark DOES allow dual citizenship now. The law was changed this year.
Him and his family can move to the ONLY other country that celebrates the 4th of july like we do.
The log cabin was made from American timber.

Thank you,
Henry
 
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