Video on vacuum sealing guns.

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I was thinking of doing this. I have been looking for videos and seen how to do it and different ways, first one I have seen that shows opening one years later. Its new video, if there are others like it post links, I would like to see. I was talking about this to one person who said he had done it and his gun rusted.

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I love RIGs grease. For long term storage its great. When I built my home in 07 I my safes in no climate control storage. I put rigs on them and it was not an issue when I took them out. I would like to see someone bury a gun or at least metal in the ground for years in a vacuum bag.
 
Interesting. I used a vacuum packer for some food storage and some did go bad. The moral I learned is it is not always a perfect vacuum and the seal doesn’t always last. Some vacuum sealers pull a stronger mor complete vacuum and some sealers don’t seal as good. Some sealers actually let some air back in the way they seal. Vacuum packers and sealers are probably made better than when I did it some years ago.
 
If I were to go about this for any reason I would do it this way:

1. Use a good oil or grease to coat all metal parts.

2. Use a Mylar bag.

3. Use a bigger than needed oxygen absorber to go into the bag with the firearm. (no oxygen = no rust). A new oxygen absorber should feel soft to the touch when you squeeze it, like it has sand inside, if it feels hard when you squeeze it then at some point oxygen got to it and it should be discarded.

4. Seal the mylar bag with an iron set on highest setting with a minimum 1 inch wide seal. 5-8 seconds of contact with the iron should make an awesome seal, if the bag is longer than the iron do it in sections until the bag is completely sealed.

If you are burying the firearm, do not trust the mylar bag to protect it, place it inside of a piece of pvc pipe which is pvc-cemented on one end, and on the other end use a threaded cap which you use teflon tape on the threads to ensure a water proof seal. You can also just glue both endcaps on but you will need a saw to get into it later on when you go to open it again, and to reuse it you will need a new endcap and more pvc cement and primer if your cement calls for it. Throwing several large oxygen absorbers in the pipe with the bag is probably also a good idea in case the mylar bags seal got compromised....
 
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Using the right bag that oil doesn't destroy would be important and a good rust preventative.
 
IMHO NO NEED to vacuum seal. If you get a slight leak, it's worse than not sealing as the moisture will linger in the bag and be worse than free flowing air.

My 45 year old tried and true procedure for any long term stored firearms is the following:

1) Thoroughly clean the entire gun and dry.

2) Completely disassemble.

3) Apply RIG Universal Grease inside & out. RIG GREASE is the BEST and has NEVER let me down in 45 years!

4) Reassemble gun and put note in box that it MUST be disassembled and cleaned prior to use.

5) Wrap Greased up gun in a few layers of Waxed Paper.

6) Wrap gun again with Aluminum Foil, squeeze so package conforms to guns shape (roughly).

7) Store in original box or container.

NOTE: The procedure above is meant for long term storage - and NOT for a gun that will only be stored and used after a few months as it is too much trouble to keep disassembling and reassembling it. For guns only to be stored short term (a few months and possibly up to a year) a light coat of Rig Universal Grease on the outside after thoroughly cleaning and proper lubrication of the inside is all that I do. The Waxed Paper alone is all that is necessary to keep the Grease from ruing the box and paperwork - at least for short term storage.
 
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I currently have 4 firearms that are vacuum sealed. The first one I did as an experiment in December of 2006. It is still sealed tightly and shows no signs of rust that I can see through the bag. My Ruger Blackhawk has been vacuum sealed for only about 9 months, but it is still sealed well and also shows no signs of rust.

I sealed up my Grandfather's Winchester model 1892 about 8 years ago. Last year I noticed it had lost some of it's seal and resealed it. It still looked just like it did when I first vacuumed sealed it. My Dad's WWII bring back Roth Steyer 8mm has been sealed up for a little over 10 years. I just noticed today (thanks to this thread) that it too has lost some of the vacuum. I'll be resealing it today.

I give them all a thorough cleaning inside and out, and coat them with a good coat of CLP or Weapon Shield.

I started out using a Food Saver vacuum sealer. About 3 years ago, I bought a Weston vacuum sealer which works a lot better for everything, not just firearms. LOL.
 
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I would be leery of this process hurting some finishes. I have seen guns wrapped in bubble wrap for just a few days during shipping leave very permanent spots on the wood and metal finish.

There are solvents/chemicals in soft plastics like bubble wrap, plastic bags, soft plastic fishing lures to keep them soft and flexible. Those chemicals sometime do a number on finishes.
 
Well I am trying it, I did two hand guns, both blued finish, I vacuum sealed with WD long term specialist corrosion inhibitor. Then a oxy absorbed and another vacuum sealed bag then Mylar and air pushed out so little there and heat sealed.
 
Just get the huge, cheap bags of silica gel at Michaels or
Hobby Lobby. Easy as cake.
 
(Man, there are some days I just love living in the desert. :) )

Yep....not much worry about rust around here.

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