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Whitwabit
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Been to more doctors then I ever would wish on anyone else and no medical professional as ever asked if I had a gun ..
In fact no one has ever asked if I have or own guns I'm retired with many years under these old shoes ..
If someone in the medical profession did ask I would politely tell them it has nothing to do with my health record and refuse to answer .. writing anything other then my answer " refuses to answer" on the form would be falsifying my medical records !
In fact no one has ever asked if I have or own guns I'm retired with many years under these old shoes ..
If someone in the medical profession did ask I would politely tell them it has nothing to do with my health record and refuse to answer .. writing anything other then my answer " refuses to answer" on the form would be falsifying my medical records !
Bill Bates
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I wonder how the doctor would take a truthful answer, "no gun in the house. I'm wearing pants so it is here in your exam room."
You're going to have an awfully hard time proving the Doctor "falsified" your medical records by acurately recording that you do own guns
My biggest problem with this is that it's not something the Doctor would normally trouble himself to ask you.
This kind if question would be on the pre appointment screening and they'd either just have you fill it out in the waiting room (most likely) or the Medical Assistant would ask you while she's taking your vitals. The only exception to that would be if the Doctor were going to prescribe a drug such as Lyrica (which has a known side effect of increasing suicidal ideation and tendencies) to you and then it just might be a legitimate question.
All that said almost every Doctor I have ever met has been pretty arrogant and every single one of them has been absolutely convinced they're the smartest guy in the room no matter what room they're in.
So if it makes you feel better to tell the Doctor to mind his own business or it makes you feel like you're some how In charge of the interaction knock yourself out. But don't for one second think that you are going to change his opinion on anything and don't think you're going to keep him from putting whatever he wants in your record. If nothing else he'll mark "No" with an annotation that in his medical opinion you're lying and that this may indicate an underlying psychological issue.
Now what?
This kind if question would be on the pre appointment screening and they'd either just have you fill it out in the waiting room (most likely) or the Medical Assistant would ask you while she's taking your vitals. The only exception to that would be if the Doctor were going to prescribe a drug such as Lyrica (which has a known side effect of increasing suicidal ideation and tendencies) to you and then it just might be a legitimate question.
All that said almost every Doctor I have ever met has been pretty arrogant and every single one of them has been absolutely convinced they're the smartest guy in the room no matter what room they're in.
So if it makes you feel better to tell the Doctor to mind his own business or it makes you feel like you're some how In charge of the interaction knock yourself out. But don't for one second think that you are going to change his opinion on anything and don't think you're going to keep him from putting whatever he wants in your record. If nothing else he'll mark "No" with an annotation that in his medical opinion you're lying and that this may indicate an underlying psychological issue.
Now what?
model70hunter
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Nics doesn't ask SN gun info, only if long gun or short gun.
True they can go back and see if you were called in by a FFL and if needed check with the FFL for your purchases.
This is one thing private sales does, it prevents one from being in the data base.
True they do not know if you bought the firearm called in by the FFL but it may not be true gun registration it does smell like people registration.
On lying or saying NO when asked by Dr or Medical facility. I agree it is none of their business, but one has just lied on a document that might come back to haunt you, like fraud or deception. The last ten years of my working life the Hospital insurance changed every 2 years, new Dr each time, been asked why this is needed, was told it is something they are required to ask. I said Nunya.
Under hippa Laws your medical history is private, well I and most of you, not all, have signed the share option when filling out forms so by giving us HIPPA the 1st thing they want to do is have us sign it away.
My wife the RN always declines to share, she says we are just a spot in too many data bases in wrong places if we sign.
I now refuse to sign.
I do not want an overworked Dr to have ammo to decide if I am more or less sane then they are.
Nics doesn't ask SN gun info, only if long gun or short gun.
True they can go back and see if you were called in by a FFL and if needed check with the FFL for your purchases.
This is one thing private sales does, it prevents one from being in the data base.
True they do not know if you bought the firearm called in by the FFL but it may not be true gun registration it does smell like people registration.
On lying or saying NO when asked by Dr or Medical facility. I agree it is none of their business, but one has just lied on a document that might come back to haunt you, like fraud or deception. The last ten years of my working life the Hospital insurance changed every 2 years, new Dr each time, been asked why this is needed, was told it is something they are required to ask. I said Nunya.
Under hippa Laws your medical history is private, well I and most of you, not all, have signed the share option when filling out forms so by giving us HIPPA the 1st thing they want to do is have us sign it away.
My wife the RN always declines to share, she says we are just a spot in too many data bases in wrong places if we sign.
I now refuse to sign.
I do not want an overworked Dr to have ammo to decide if I am more or less sane then they are.
FLSTFI
Member
At which point he marked the "Yes" box and continued the interview .
Boy you really out smarted him.
I can't stop him from putting whatever he wants on the form, but the look on his face when I asked him if he sleeps with his nurses was worth it to me.
Long Barrel
Member
Both my cardioligists.....
Bought their skeet guns on my recommendation, so I think they already know.
Bought their skeet guns on my recommendation, so I think they already know.
silentflyer
Member
How about "none of your dammed business",, as I get up and walk out the door...
oldandslow
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I'm a doc and I ask my patients all the time if they have guns. I also ask them if they're shooting in the local match this weekend, if they have powder or primers to trade and how the new scope on their AR is working out.
They also ask me about my guns, reloading and shooting plans
best wishes- oldandslow
PS- my usual CCW's are either a 4513tsw (no rail), 457 or 6904.
They also ask me about my guns, reloading and shooting plans
best wishes- oldandslow
PS- my usual CCW's are either a 4513tsw (no rail), 457 or 6904.
Papa32129
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Yes, it shoots blanks.
I had a vasectomy a few years ago.
Papa
I had a vasectomy a few years ago.
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Brian41
Member
I've never been asked but had planned on saying of course I'm a hunter and leave it at that. Now that I have to change doctors because of my Medicare supplemental insurance I plan on saying no. I don't think it's illegal to lie to a doctor. If anyone really wants to know they can find out I have a CCW permit and since we have to register handguns here I'm on record there too. I recently needed to get copies of my registered handguns. The list included every gun I ever registered and was 13 pages. I guess if they ever come to get them I can't produce all the ones I sold either.
S&W SS Revolvers
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They most certainly are.
elm_creek_smith
US Veteran
My doctor has never asked. His office called for me to come in for some blood work during the day, and I walked past their "no guns" sign in uniform with my Model 686 in black basketweave on my belt. No one said, boo! 
The last time I went to my doctor's office she proudly showed me a picture of her teenage daughter with her first buck deer the young lady killed with a rifle.
I'm lucky I live in an area where hunting and fishing are considered just everyday part of life.
I'm lucky I live in an area where hunting and fishing are considered just everyday part of life.
wingriderz
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No Guns are dangerousAcadianlion
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This question, if asked, is probably an insurance underwriting question. It likely has nothing to do with us as gun owners at all, and I doubt the doctor or his/her staff cares one way or another. Now that being said, the real issue likely has to do with the epidemic of mental health issues that have resulted in shootings of all sort, particularly in cases of domestic violence. So the presence of guns in the house become of interest primarily of the generally rising concern about how guns are often used in cases of domestic violence. That is especially so here in Maine where the governor has made domestic violence and its prevention a matter of great attention. I have not been asked by a doctor if I own guns or if guns are present in the house. IF I am asked that question, I will ask why that information is important, but I will answer truthfully. Here in Maine we have had "open carry" for a long time, and just recently the law was passed that allows concealed carry without license except in very few circumstances.
