Went to the lake.....it was depressing

We went to downtown Grand Rapids Michigan and sat in front of the Gerald Ford Presidential Museum, to watch the fireworks. We were about twenty feet from the front door. It was a good show. After it was over we just sat and let the crowds clear and was shocked at the trash. All the trash cans were full but no excuse, we carried our empty water bottles the half mile back to the car.
 
Now I will be way out of PC here but can explain at least part of the problem. In Latin American countries trash and garbage are every where. There is little organized pickups and every town has multiple dumps but most folks just throw it on the ground and most homes have a large pile out back. When these folks come here they bring with them their cultural habits. I think the latest estimate is something along the lines of 11 million illegals here and a good many of them are part of this problem.

Go to any park/campground where a large contingent of our latin population frequents and you will see the problem clearly. Check the internet for photos of the smugglers trails that the illegals use to come north, they are literally buried in garbage. In our community most of the construction laborer jobs go to the illegal community. You can tell when lunch is over as all of their trash comes blowing down the street.

This is not to infer that there is not a huge number of legal Americans who have no excuse except just plain lazy and stupid. These folks actually annoy me more. Regardless of race a slob is a slob and should never be tolerated. To all you LEO's out there, I know you have better things to do but if time permits nail their ass!
 
It's pretty easy to tell when you're entering many AZ Indian reservations, whether or not there's any signage marking the boundary, as the amount of shattered beer, wine, and booze bottles increases exponentially. Many reservation roadsides are glittering, miles-long trash heaps. The famous anti-pollution TV ad featuring the teary-eyed Indian was wishful, wistful fancy. If there's any cultural predisposition to literally trashy behavior, I don't think any particular ethnic group has a corner on it...
 
from Maine to California…………humans are the only species who defecate where they live.
you don't have to look very hard to find litter everywhere.
drop your garbage anywhere you want, is the motto of people in the USA.

there are plenty of laws on the books to punish litterbugs……….but none are enforced.

recommendation: littering first time offense…..$1000 fine and 100 hours community service.

if the above were enforced consistently……..there would be no second offenses.
 
Here in Texas, We've found it easier to keep Okies out.:p

Just kiddin with ya, There are people with no respect for others anywhere you go. Best you can do is clean up after them and try to enjoy your time in the outdoors.:)
 
One man's trash...

Thirty years ago, my '74 Alfa Romeo Berlina, a 4 dr sedan, stripped out the LH tie rod end - and the LF wheel went hard left as I turned right - the car stuttered forward. Amazingly, a wire coat hanger got me home. I called a hiker friend who was an Alfa nut, too - and, yep, he had seen a derelict '74 Spyder in his hikes - at the base of a cliff in Little River Canyon in north Alabama. Not easily accessible, he was hiking there that weekend - and scavenged the tie rod ends - they were straight! He had 'borrowed' other items from it - and several other derelicts.

Yep, folks would just pushed the mostly stripped hulls off that cliff! Some years later, the Alabama National Guard supplied some helicopters to remove most of those hulls. It really is true - trash leaves trash. I always brought my trash out with me when my sons and I hiked and camped. I brought it in full, I can take it out empty. Okay, I buried TP...

You smokers... how many of you just drop your smoldering butts? I watched folks from teens to my age take that last drag - then drop the butts - in the parking lot and grass - in front of our church - I was a door greeter/security. Just sorry behavior... dressed up 'nice' folks, trash, or bums, it doesn't matter. Remember the ad with the tearful indian?

Stainz
 
Remember the ad with the tearful indian?

Stainz

I remember that the ad represented reality about as closely as the fact that the "Indian" was in actuality an Italian...the reservations here are the trash heaps of the northland.
 
I see the why as a direct result of the influx of third world people who bring their slovenly cultures with them. They have no interest in assimilating, and therefore acquiring what are our social norms.

I believe that Scotsbrae has the answer. See his signature line….

I've heard that the word "diversity" was created from the words "divisiveness" and "perversity." Some people certainly seem to apply it that way.
 
I dont go to the lake anymore but a friend still does, he said he saw a Hispanic woman with a little kid in diapers take his off and wash him and it right in the swimming area with people all around, this was in Beaver lake in NW Ar. Jeff
 
People in other states are littering slobs also. I worked in a campground one summer and a large part of my job was picking up litter. I HATE smokers who flip their butts OVER the campfire and into the grass. I HATE people who burn trash in their fire pits. I HATE people who throw leftover food into the grass next to their campsite.

I won't even mention cleaning the bath houses, except to report that women leave worse messes than men. Those little boxes on the stall walls hold waxed bags for sanitary pads -- they're not there to put your used Depends in . . . .
 
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It's pretty easy to tell when you're entering many AZ Indian reservations, whether or not there's any signage marking the boundary, as the amount of shattered beer, wine, and booze bottles increases exponentially. Many reservation roadsides are glittering, miles-long trash heaps. The famous anti-pollution TV ad featuring the teary-eyed Indian was wishful, wistful fancy. If there's any cultural predisposition to literally trashy behavior, I don't think any particular ethnic group has a corner on it...

Yes, I saw this in some places too. In Monument Valley, when I pulled over and stopped, I walked over to the barbwire fence and on the other side there were piles of beer bottles for long stretches. Driving down the road you wouldn't pat attention to it or see it. Kinda blended in with the red sand, but it was there, not in all places , but it was ugly.
 

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