Why hate the lock?

[Bullseye Smith]

I own both, some say they aren't the old Smith's. I bet that was said after II when they removed the knob off the extractor rod and changed the stocks. The lock has been out for a few years now and in the last two years how many have been shot or had problems with the locks? I willing to bet that the tupperware you carry has screwed up on feeding more than the lock has. How many of you had to rack that auto when you though you aready have, guess we need to get rid of you - you failed. If you are that unhappy with it then don't buy them and go somewhere else to play. I love it when a new member comes on a boost about thier new Smith - makes me happy. I want Smith around so my Great Grandkids can buy one. Way you talk, you will go after the NRA for liking them. Grow UP and shut UP.

 

[Bullseye Smith]

I sorry for being a butt head, but it pisses me off all the bs over the lock. I want young people to enjoy having a new toy, keeps you young. If it is man made it will fail, it's just like we are going to die, can't change that.

 

[akr]

Originally posted by Duke426:
AKR = Troll, instigator, professional feces disturber = added to Ignore list

Gentlemen, don't engage the trolls and they will crawl back under their rocks.

I notice that you call everyone a troll when you can't answer their questions. Now, that just breaks my heart that you added me to your ignore list. Gee Whiz, life REALLY IS tough, isn't it? I personally think you are a troll because I never have conversed with you on the forum. You just don't agree with what I say. Grow up.

 

[woodsltc]

Originally posted by Roger Norris:
Why so much negativity about the locks on new S&W revolvers? I have old Smith's and new, and don't see any functional difference. I don't use the lock, but put one of the keys on my key ring just in case.

Good Grief !!! You make your first post and it's something "stupid" about the LOCK !!!!!

Please use the search function before you stick your foot in your mouth/keyboard again.

Don

 

[stevieboy]

Hey Rog, I was right, wasn't I? Are you enjoying reading this stuff?

 

[38-44HD45]

Well, well. Never used the "Ignore" function before, and now, I get to blow off two internet experts in one day. WoooHoOOOO!!!

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by 38-44HD45:
And no less an expert than Alex Hamilton has written about the defective nature of the two-piece barrel design.

You mean like this quote from his American Hadgunner Pistolsmithing column?

There is nothing wrong with shrouded barrels mind you, in fact there are many positives.

 

[38-44HD45]

Now Wyatt, wouldn't it be fair to quote from the rest of the article? Where he describes having to mill off the frame alignment lugs to rebarrel the mess of a gun he received? The statement you quote, taken out of context, merely states the obvious. I know you're not a Troll; you're just chain-yankin', aren't ya?

Wyatt, I just sent you an e-mail on another matter.

 

[Roger Norris]

Wow. What a can of flippin' worms. Sorry I asked.

 

[deanodog]

Anyone want to sell some IL revolvers cheap? I am interested. I don't own any now but have in the past. I'll buy several cheap.

 

[Roger Norris]

Not me deanodog. I have several Smith's, but 2 that I carry and use the most are a IL 642 and a .44 Mountain Gun. I suppose it's possible for the IL (I'm assuming IL is "internal lock"?) to fail and sieze up the gun, but are there any DOCUMENTED cases of it? And I don't mean urban legends from some internet commando....I mean true documented cases?

 

[Wheelgunner840]

Originally posted by Roger Norris:
I suppose it's possible for the IL (I'm assuming IL is "internal lock"?) to fail and sieze up the gun, but are there any DOCUMENTED cases of it? And I don't mean urban legends from some internet commando....I mean true documented cases?

In a word, yes. Please do a search, or better yet, I will provide you with a link to the latest "lockfest 2009"

Just a minute.

Here ya go:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3001000143/m/6641080243

Oh, and welcome to the forum!

 

[Roger Norris]

Thank you.

 

[ladder13]

Originally posted by Duke426:
AKR = Troll, instigator, professional feces disturber = added to Ignore list

Gentlemen, don't engage the trolls and they will crawl back under their rocks.

Not me, I prefer to read the nonsense

, though I know many who have it on their ignore list.

 

[Wheelgunner840]

We interupt this thread for an important announcement: Minor thread drift.

About this "ignore list". There is one guy here who isn't really a bad person, but over the past few years frequently jumps in on a discussion and says stuff that makes blood shoot out of my eyes. I hate when that happens! So, I put him on my ignore list. He was the one and only member I have ever done this to, and it was for medicinal purposes. (see "blood shooting out of eyes" reference).

What happened was, that every time I am involved with a thread, and this persons name pops up as: ""post by -------has been hidden" I end up opening it to see if this person is talking to me or asking a question of me, or responding to something I wrote using a quote of mine.

If none of those things are the case, I end up reading the fools post anyway (purely for investigative purposes) and blood shoots out of my eyes because once again this person has said something incredibly aggravating.

Bottom line is that unless I can abide by my own choice to ignore someone, it aint going to work. So -------, you are no longer on my ignore list. I shall never use the function again, as I obviously have no self control.

This post would have been a lot shorter if I had just said, "I agree with Ladder 13". I could not do that because he is on my ignore list, and I didn't see his post!

Just kidding brother!

Your not "the guy"!

Now, back to your regularly scheduled beating of a dead horse with an internal lock in it!

WG840

 

[Roger Norris]

Well, I read MOST of the posts on the above link, thanks.

I don't care at ALL about the asthetics issue. I just want the gun not to fail, ever.

For example, I shoot a hundred rounds or so through it before I put a new magazine in my load out line up for my Commander. I'm looking for reliability.

A question for you guys that carry: wold you recomend having the lock deactivated?

Any liability issues that may come up later?

 

[Wheelgunner840]

Roger,
I sold both IL guns that I had. If I had decided to keep them, I would only have de-activated the lock on the SD carry piece. Like you, I don't like to gamble with my life even if it is a long shot (no pun intended).

As far as I know, disabling the lock would not be a liability problem unless you sold the gun and did not disclose the fact that the lock was disabled. For your own use, who the heck cares. Keeping the gun inaccessable to unauthorized persons and children relies on the safety between your ears. If, God forbid, someone got hurt with an IL equipped gun that did not have the lock activated, perhaps an over zealous prosecuter might ring up the fact that you did not engage it.

I would think that one of our fine baristers here could expound on this scenario. But, talk about a long shot! Hey, I think I just came up with another reason to hate the lock! Someone getting hurt because you didn't engage it, and because you don't have the sense God gave to a cobblestone, you didn't have the gun secured properly! I tell ya, I am on a roll tonight!

WG840

 

[armybass]

Because it is there.

 

[ladder13]

Originally posted by Roger Norris:
Well, I read MOST of the posts on the above link, thanks.

I don't care at ALL about the asthetics issue. I just want the gun not to fail, ever.

For example, I shoot a hundred rounds or so through it before I put a new magazine in my load out line up for my Commander. I'm looking for reliability.

A question for you guys that carry: wold you recomend having the lock deactivated?

Any liability issues that may come up later?

Yes Roger, de-activate it, why take any chances. Be aware any gun can fail, lock equipped or otherwise. That's why I carry 2.

 

[akr]

Be aware any gun can fail, lock equipped or otherwise

So why deactivate it? LOL