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I have a GE 25,000 BTU window unit that is 11 years old. I turned it on for the first time of the season today and it ran perfect until this evening, when it didn't restart and just hums. I shut it off and checked the breaker to see if one leg popped and it didn't. I haven't checked the voltage at the plug yet to be sure it is getting 220 but I assume it is.

Is this most likely the compressor and should I consider getting it fixed or just buy a new one? Anything else to check?

Thanks for the help!

BTW I am no piker do-it-yourselfer. I can fix about anything.
 
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You could probably buy a new one for what it could cost to fix that one if it's the compressor. With all of the energy saving features the new ones have you'd come out cheaper in the long run. Just a thought.
 
The money youd spend on repairs, whether you do it yourself or have a tech do it, its just not worth it. Window units are like a roll of toilet paper...... Use it until it runs out ;) (or dies in this case).

I recommend to buy a new one. Itll save you a lot of money and issues.
 
Someone suggested it could be a capacitor, which I found is about $100. So you might be right about just replacing it.
 
You should call ME up. I'm doing HVAC for a living right now, I'll hook you up with some central air... for a S&W or two... or four....;)
 
I worked with HVAC for a while, and I really think that unless it is as simple as patching a coil or refilling the unit you may want to replace it because it can get pricey quick
 
My guess would be either a start capacitor for the compressor, or a burnt off terminal at the compressor. My guess is that the "hum" you are hearing is the coil on the compressor contactor that is pulled in. Could be a quick, easy, simple, and inexpensive fix (I highly doubt the capacitor would cost anywhere near $100 - probably closer to $20), or perhaps not. Window units are easy enough to remove and take to an outside area where you can check it over real good. A burnt off terminal on the compressor could be a very easy and inexpensive fix, provided that it only burnt off the spade connector on the end of the wire. It the actual lug on the compressor is burnt off, but still has a "stub" left, you may try one of these:

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Compressor Terminal Repair Kit
 
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I have a GE 25,000 BTU window unit that is 11 years old. I turned it on for the first time of the season today and it ran perfect until this evening, when it didn't restart and just hums. I shut it off and checked the breaker to see if one leg popped and it didn't. I haven't checked the voltage at the plug yet to be sure it is getting 220 but I assume it is.

Is this most likely the compressor and should I consider getting it fixed or just buy a new one? Anything else to check?

Thanks for the help!

BTW I am no piker do-it-yourselfer. I can fix about anything.

You don't mention which is humming.. The compressor, or the fan
motor..? If the fan working, but it is the compressor humming, it
could be a bad cap. A cap shouldn't cost anywhere close to $100
if you go buy the part somewhere.
You can sort of test a cap with a VOM set to resistance.
First, short the cap terminals together.. Then apply the leads across
the cap and look for a quick indication of resistance which quickly
falls off to nothing. That is the voltage from the meter charging the
cap. You don't want to see a constant dead short, or always open.
That won't tell you if the value is correct, but will let you know if it's
open, shorted, or otherwise acting as normal. They have digital cap
testers that can read the value, but it's really not needed for what
you are doing. The tool could cost more than the part to fix the
A/C if it's something cheap and simple like a cap.
Most units use a "dual" cap which is used for both the fan motor,
and the compressor.
If the fan motor is humming, and no air is blowing, it could also be a cap,
but often is a bad fan motor.
In many cases, you will have the fan motor go out. Often they get
hot and go off on internal overload. So then you have the compressor
running, but the head pressure is going through the roof due to no fan,
and before long, it too overheats and goes off on internal overload.
It will reset once it cools down if this happens. The only thing is,
when it compressor goes off on overload, it will not make a sound.
No humming at all until the overload cools off and reconnects
the circuit. A compressor that hums either is having trouble starting
due to a bad cap, not equalized yet, or could even be a bad compressor.
Some get "tight" and hard to start and require a start kit to get going.
You can buy ones that are single piece and look like a stick of TNT..
You just connect it in parallel with the stock cap for the compressor.
Look at the cap. The top where the terminals are should be perfectly
flat and level. If the top is bulged out a bit, it's likely shorted internally
and is likely bad. I see this quite often these days with all the cheap
caps they use these days. Yep, make sure you really have 220v at
the socket.
A 25k BTU window unit is pretty good sized and not cheap to replace
so it could be worth fixing unless the compressor is shot.
If it had a bad fan motor, I would probably fix it. Course, it doesn't
cost me a lot to change a motor.. I don't charge myself labor.. :/
 
Check voltage @ both 110V legs of the outlet first.
If OK.
Then go where C/S was leading you. Repeated and/or continual drops of one leg or the other of your power during electrical outages or storms, can cause havoc a laboratory can only hope to imagine much less duplicate! Always check that both legs are being delivered, and then that both legs are actually being USED by the device. (C/S's idea)
Long shot wild card (but possible), your breaker panel could have a weak leg at it's main breaker, causing a transitory loss of one of the two 110V legs? Not common. But also not uncommon. Had any "hinky" electric range, water heater (if electric) or other 220V device activities, other than the window A/C unit lately? Even something you don't now think is important, could be a clue to someone knowledgeable!
 
Thanks a bunch for the info! It gives me some things to check out tomorrow. Hopefully it is simply a corroded connection.

Does the fact that it ran all day following a 6 month layup before malfunction indicate anything?
 
Spotteddog- The only other "hinky" was that I had a GFI trip during a heavy rainstorm last night. It was on an separate circuit running an outside light and receptacle. Not the first time for it to trip during rain.

Thanks!
 
Always check both 110V legs for power @ the breaker box and @ the appliances capacitors after electrical storms or wind outages if weirdness appears.
 
Thanks for the help, I fixed it! It was the capacitor, it was bulged at the top. $30 and it is cooling nicely, hopefully for another 11 years.

Thanks again!
 
Sounds like you are back in biz.. I'm glad I mentioned the cap bulging..
I see loads of those. At least one a week nearly.. They don't make caps
like they used to.. In the old days, it was rare for a cap to go bad.
But they were made in the U.S. by GE, etc.. Now most are made in Mexico,
or wherever.. They don't last like the old ones used to.
 
Ditto on what MK said. Some of the junk parts they put into equipment these days is just ridiculous. It's funny how you can find plenty of 20 - 30 year old condensing units out there that are still running on the original capacitors, but it's not uncommon at all to see 2, 3, 4, and 5 year old capacitors going out on a regular basis. Same can be said for a lot of other electronic parts, especially the cheapy fan motors they put in equipment now days.

Good to hear you got it back up and running, pbslinger! :)
 
You guys are right again, capacitor is hecho en mehico. So is the replacement. The other bad news is if I had to replace the entire unit, it would have been chinese.

I paid over $715 for this air conditioner in 1998, the chinese one I considered replacing it with is $440 + tax 11 years later.
 
You would be lucky to get a Chinese made air conditioner. EXP: The Haier brand A.C. units sold at wall fart are jobbed out to India by the Chinese.
 
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