Your carry is spotted in a restaurant. What would you do?

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This scenario was featured on the members website for the U.S. Concealed Carry Association. It prompted me to do a bit of "What if?" thinking.

Briefly, it goes like this. You are seated at a restaurant enjoying a meal with your significant other. A man walks up to you and says something like this:

"You're carrying a gun. I hate guns. A gun killed my son. What in the world do you think you're doing in here with that?"

You glance at your piece, and sure enough, your covering garment has hitched up, and the gun sure enough shows.

What would be your response to this beginning of what could be a heated exchange?

Think about it. Have your answer prepared - designed to defuse the situation. Here are some responses offered so far that make some sense:

"Thank you for noticing. I didn't mean for it to show. My job requires me to be armed at all times. I'm authorized by the government to carry. I'm not at liberty to discuss it further, but I appreciate you making me aware of it. Have a good day, sir."

Note: No lie. Your job, among other things, is the protection of your loved ones. As a CCW holder, you are authorized by the government (usually the state) to carry. You were polite and hopefully put his fears to rest that you are not a bad guy but a good guy.

Another suggested response:

"I'm sorry for letting my firearm show, sir. That shouldn't have happened. I'm on a private security detail, and I would appreciate it if you would not advertise my presence. I have government authorization to be armed. Again, thanks for making me aware that my gun was showing. You have a good day, sir."

Again, no lie. You ARE on a "private security detail" that involves protecting your loved ones. And again, you are authorized to carry.

Of course, it goes without saying that you should never expose your gun in public. But "stuff happens." If you are made, you should have a response prepared designed to quickly defuse the situation.

The prevailing thought on the USCCA thread was that it is never good to engage in an argument on the merits of carrying a weapon. The man is obviously emotional - he believes his son was killed by a gun rather than a human being. He will not be reasoned with nor should one try.

Now, what would YOU do or say in this situation?

John
 
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Well being in KY open carry is legal so, I would simply say thanks for giving me your opinion, have a good day, and go back to eating.
 
Kind of a variant of what Luddha said:

"thanks for letting me know,I have the right to carry and I choose to do so,it's legal so nothing wrong"

Then go back to eating.
 
"thanks for letting me know,I have the right to carry and I choose to do so,it's legal so nothing wrong".
Theoretically correct but way wrong time and place to escalate this. When it starts like this you've got stop it ASAP as it can't go anywhere but downhill.

Thank the guy and tell him you're authorized by the government but can't discuss it further.

Bob
 
Theoretically correct but way wrong time and place to escalate this. When it starts like this you've got stop it ASAP as it can't go anywhere but downhill.

Thank the guy and tell him you're authorized by the government but can't discuss it further.

Bob

This is actually why I prefer IWB with a vest,pocket,or pouch carry as the chances of my gun being seen are almost impossible.

And BTW saying you're a cop or fed can be considered a crime,and your gun being seen in some states is a no-no and can get your CCW revoked.

So two things:

One-I dunno really what you'd do,if your state is more gun cool then just call the cops on the fool I guess.

Two-I just intend to carry in such a way as to avoid this,it may be somewhat harder to get the gun out but at least I avoid the idiots.
 
Somewhat similar case actually happened in Oklahoma.
A fellow was searching out people who he thought was carrying in stores, pulling open their cover garment, and berating them for carrying a gun.
He was arrested for assault.
 
Somewhat similar case actually happened in Oklahoma.
A fellow was searching out people who he thought was carrying in stores, pulling open their cover garment, and berating them for carrying a gun.
He was arrested for assault.

Guy like that I could see one getting away with pepper spraying him :D
 
Well being in KY open carry is legal so, I would simply say thanks for giving me your opinion, have a good day, and go back to eating.

Couldn't have said it better. Life is too short to go through it worrying about how others are going to react. You can never control what another person will feel or think.
 
PALADIN85020 said:
This scenario was featured on the members website for the U.S. Concealed Carry Association. It prompted me to do a bit of "What if?" thinking.

Briefly, it goes like this. You are seated at a restaurant enjoying a meal with your significant other. A man walks up to you and says something like this:

"You're carrying a gun. I hate guns. A gun killed my son. What in the world do you think you're doing in here with that?"

You glance at your piece, and sure enough, your covering garment has hitched up, and the gun sure enough shows.

What would be your response to this beginning of what could be a heated exchange?

Response; Sir, How may I be of assistance to you?

note; If someone saw my sidearm, they probable also saw my cuff case and badge...


As a matter of fact I was dining in an up scale restaurant last weekend in Kentucky and observed a well dress older gentleman sportin' a commander size 1911 cocked & locked (maybe locked, I don't know) in a tooled holster, matchin' belt with a silver and gold ranger style buckle.

Oh, wait a minute that was my own reflection in the window...sorry 'bout that! Please disregard last statement. ~smile~

Su Amigo,
Dave
 
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a car killed my son, are you driving a car?
 
Happens to me daily, but I own the restaurants.

It is a good, thought-provoking question. I think I would thank him for letting me know I had inadvertently "flashed," and explain as suggested that my job requires me be armed. Then thank him again, wish him a good day, and begin eating.

Should he wish to continue, I'd ask the manager to have him removed.

The Highlander
 
I wouldn't escalate and I wouldn't lie, but I don't think I'd try to frame it like I was on a secret double-ought spy mission either.

Make sure when you are arguing with a fool that he is not doing the same thing.
 
I'm old enough to 'not' look like i'm on special assignment. If it was a state where any showing was contrary to CCW rules, I should have done a better job of concealing it. And I might thank him.

If it was an open carry state or otherwise not against CCW rules I'd ask him to go back to his table. I wouldn't feel like it would be a problem, cause he couldn't be drunk and dangerous. I'm not allowed to be carrying generally in a place that serves alcohol.

I was out in the woods where open carry was legal and a german tourist noticed I had an M36 on my belt. He was shocked that I was carrying a firearm and asked me why. Told him I sure was carring and it was cause you never know what you'll run into.
 
I'm not so nice and won't suffer a fool like that. He has one choice and that's to get away from me and leave me alone.

Be careful. In Michigan, flashing while possessing a CCW can be grounds to revoke the permit.

I'm an IWB carrier, myself, generally. I'd hate to flash and I'm nuts about imprinting. We are, after all, responsible enough to keep the peace, eh?
 
Be careful. In Michigan, flashing while possessing a CCW can be grounds to revoke the permit.
Not as I recall, but I'll bounce this one off my carry instructor. Although I have no intention of doing so, Michigan is an open carry state, IIRC.
I'm an IWB carrier, myself, generally. I'd hate to flash and I'm nuts about imprinting. We are, after all, responsible enough to keep the peace, eh?
I'm careful about printing too. In this case, I'm not the one who broke the peace.
 
I would simply say "Sir, the bad guys have guns too and I don't want to get shot. I'm licensed by the state to carry for protection and have no intention of ever using it unless someone tries to harm me or my loved ones."
 

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