There is a marketing guy somewhere whose job depends on the 30 super carry making a big splash… too bad.
30 Super Carry
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Probably. People want a tic tac sized gun, with 20+1 capacity for some reason these days.
It's a weird trend.
Power doesn't matter. Tons of people carry the 380 nowadays.
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[FONT="]Here ya go ! The new cartridge that will revolutionize self defense and make everything else obsolete ! The .25 Super Carry ! Based on the 38S&W case necked down to 25 caliber pushing a 35 grain bullet at 5,280 FPS from an 18 shot revolver 30% smaller than a 'J' frame with an internal gyro-stabilizer that reduces recoil to .22LR levels using a proprietary new powder developed by Blammo laboratories in conjunction with NASA . The suppressor is SMALLER than the gun ! Rumor has it the LAPD has already ordered theirs ! Get in early before the demand outstrips the supply !
Not available in NYC or Massachusetts.
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A .380 is always on me during daily hiking, biking or fishing. If it was any heavier or bigger it wouldn't be. With today's ammo and eight rounds on tap, feel no less armed then when I carried a J-Frame.
The trend will continue to lighter and smaller as more and more folks EDC who have never owned handguns, much less EDC. Their not looking to reload, or dive into ballistics, they are just looking for personal protection.
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I had a chance to handle 2 .30SC Shield EZs today. They had the absolute worst triggers I have experienced on S&W auto since...ever. One was heavy and gritty, the other less gritty, but much heavier. Not what I'd expect in a gun marketed to people with limited hand strength. They had one box of Federal HSTs for $31.95. I wasn't tempted.
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Ya'll can have it.....Just another GIMMICK cartridge to generate sales. Doesn't do anything better than the 146 handgun cartridges we already have.
skwchock
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Currently, there is a lot of hype for the "new" 30 super carry. More powerful than a .380ACP, but less than a 9mm. OK. So, who needs it? Is this another hype? ala Hallmark creating another holiday to sell cards? Do you really need another bucket of brass or reloading dies? I am not an expert shooter, and believe there are enough "as good, if not better" bullets in existence right now.
I really like the .327 FedMag out of the 6" GP100 as far as shooting comfortably. I'm not sure of the weight that's above the 100 gr, maybe 115, but that's where you start to feel some very manageable kick. From the 2# 13 oz. "tank," really a blast, but the scarce supply of ammo on shelves is a bummer. I cannot find any .38 spl. let alone .327. Bad timing for the .30 SC. I'd give it a try, but won't buy that gun. I just get out to shoot every once or twice a month so no justification for reload candidate either. I like revolvers better but I'm old-fashioned that way. How's that Ruger 57 coming along? (I'm actually serious with the question.) That .327 FM has been out for some years now but I know a couple people that never heard of it. In better times I could see the .30SC getting some air under its wings, but these are not exactly good times. Covid is pretty much leveled off but now this Ukraine thing is another sink hole in the road. Too bad. The man did his best in AR Magazine to talk it up and I believe he was pretty honest. Just the wrong timing for a new cartridge. Will it take down a grizzly? Sorry; I couldn't resist!
I really hope it takes off only because that means ammo is for sale again.
I really hope it takes off only because that means ammo is for sale again.
This, I think, is going to be the answer:
Time will tell.
Time will tell.
cmj8591
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I think the 30SC was designed to primarily be a backup to the 45GAP.
A high velocity mouse gun is still a mouse gun. A 30 SC Magnum, as well as the .327 Federal, would be fun to shoot. But, as a defensive weapon, too small bore. So a 30 SC, not magnum, for 'carry' is silly. Even if magnum, it would be silly.
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Protocall_Design
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They already have a lot of .22 Super Carry guns, don't need a .25.
DOA…more than enough cartridges already available.
Interesting discussion. I did not see the 30 Luger mentioned anywhere. I have one and always liked it. Fun to shoot, a lot of penetration and wicked on ground hogs with hollow points.
However it would not allow for more rounds in the magazine or cylinder as it is a bottle necked 9mm. It is super easy to reload because of the neck.
I would like to see a 25 magnum. It would give you centerfire reliability with just a bit more penetration than a 22 LR. I think that would make a great vest pocket pistol.
However it would not allow for more rounds in the magazine or cylinder as it is a bottle necked 9mm. It is super easy to reload because of the neck.
I would like to see a 25 magnum. It would give you centerfire reliability with just a bit more penetration than a 22 LR. I think that would make a great vest pocket pistol.
I'm reminded of Tiger McKee showing Tom Gresham how to use a .380 pistol for self defense shooting. He showed him how to shoot over his shoulder as he ran away.
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Alk8944
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.30 S.C. Viability
For all of you trying to beat this caliber to death before it has had a chance, GIVE IT A REST!!! If it doesn't sell then it doesn't and the market will take care of it. And, BTW, based on published performance figures the .30 S.C. isn't a mouse gun just because it is a .32 caliber! By this logic both .308 and .30-06 are mouse guns.
If you don't like the .30 SC for whatever pre-conceived prejudice you have, but why do you think you need to try to convince others they should agree with you, keep it to yourselves and let's just see what happens. Do you have any idea how much financial damage you could be causing S&W. Federal and other manufacturers by making such posts that may poison the minds of the new/inexperienced potential buyers against this new caliber and the guns already being made for it?
Yes, this is my opinion. If you want to argue about it you will have just convinced me how narrow minded/malicious you are! I was going to say stupid, but..........
For all of you trying to beat this caliber to death before it has had a chance, GIVE IT A REST!!! If it doesn't sell then it doesn't and the market will take care of it. And, BTW, based on published performance figures the .30 S.C. isn't a mouse gun just because it is a .32 caliber! By this logic both .308 and .30-06 are mouse guns.
If you don't like the .30 SC for whatever pre-conceived prejudice you have, but why do you think you need to try to convince others they should agree with you, keep it to yourselves and let's just see what happens. Do you have any idea how much financial damage you could be causing S&W. Federal and other manufacturers by making such posts that may poison the minds of the new/inexperienced potential buyers against this new caliber and the guns already being made for it?
Yes, this is my opinion. If you want to argue about it you will have just convinced me how narrow minded/malicious you are! I was going to say stupid, but..........
bulletslap
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The 30 Super Carry would be the perfect companion for your 350 Legend AR.
No, sir. I care about the people on this forum. The cartridge manufacturer and the gun rags are pushing this sub-gun as a good self defense carry round.
They will get people killed. It isn't suitable for stand and defend yourself. It is suitable for suppressive fire as you run away. Two extra rounds WILL make more noise. That's it.
