Marijuana Question

... If it's against the law to smoke within XX feet of some entrance, then it's surely against the law to smoke either tobacco OR pot.

PLUS, it's surely against the law to smoke pot ANYwhere in public, not just 50 feet. Tobacco smokers are less restricted than pot smokers....

No, it's not. The place is PURPOSED for the smoking of dope, but with very rare exception, the city ordinance forbids the smoking of cigarettes within 50' of the public entrance of any commercial establishment.

The fact that you say "surely" clearly indicates that you do not understand and are supposing.

My point, is to illustrate the hypocrisy of this law.

While I applaud the seemingly libertarian bent of your response, I wonder if you have a clear grasp of the issue or rather, have a predisposition. The fact that your counter-point contains thinly veiled personal condemnations of me suggests that you do.
 
But they don't stop at an average weight.. they fall to nothing!

The ones I'm sorry for are the 100+ people who died after eating peanuts during this past year... or the 35,000 who died from prescription drugs...
how many died from an overdose from cannabis?

Overdosed? Sadly :( there are other ways to die with intoxicants besides overdose. Like workplace accidents. Which gets us back to the OP.

(I think all this is fun) I know, there's crusaders and high minded advocates that know whats good for everybody else, but I'm not one of 'em. Really.

Like I said (if the thread monitor allows me to repeat myself),it's up to the voters.

Would it be safe to conclude you support the legal use of cannabis for medicinal uses ? 'cause you can just come on out and say it, feel free:D.
 
No, it's not. The place is PURPOSED for the smoking of dope, but with very rare exception, the city ordinance forbids the smoking of cigarettes within 50' of the public entrance of any commercial establishment.

The fact that you say "surely" clearly indicates that you do not understand and are supposing.

My point, is to illustrate the hypocrisy of this law.

While I applaud the seemingly libertarian bent of your response, I wonder if you have a clear grasp of the issue or rather, have a predisposition. The fact that your counter-point contains thinly veiled personal condemnations of me suggests that you do.
Drew, is there a troll under the bridge?:D:D:D
 
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Probly got that way standin' downwind of me and one of my Cubanos!
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"Would it be safe to conclude you support the legal use of cannabis for medicinal uses ? 'cause you can just come on out and say it, feel free."

Yes Mr. Tex... I am 110% for making cannabis legal for medical use... country wide!!

I have a friend who I have known for 60 years and he's like a real brother. A year ago my friend had a prostate biopsy...
it came back "positive". 10% in one of the 14 needle samples.
Shortly after he started taking "Rick Simpson Oil".
My friend had several "side effects" from the oil.

When he started taking the oil his weight was 143 lbs, he's 6'-1" tall, two months after taking the oil he's at 170 lbs.

He was taking pain medications for his arthritis in his back, both shoulders, one knee, and one hand. He doesn't take any now and is pain free.

He tells me his vision has improved and colors seem much brighter now.

He was taking prescription medication for high blood pressure...
he doesn't take the medicine anymore. His pressure stays normal.

And this is the funny part.. With a big grin, he told me he can now get an erection without Viagra's help!:D

He had another biopsy the last week in October. The results came back "unchanged, no progression". He is to have another biopsy this coming May, we are hoping the results is "no cancer".
A mistake was made when the oil was made. Any cannabis not smoked must have a "decarboxylation" step added to change the THCa & CBDa to THC & CBD. The oil will complete this step on it's own in 4 to 6 weeks. This step wasn't well known a year ago and the first part of his treatment may have been weak?

The oil was made in his backyard from cannabis from another friend of ours.. who by the way would be dead if you could OD on cannabis!:D
The oil was rendered using 99+% isopropyl alcohol and boiled down using a rice cooker.

What I've told you is real.. and a close to first hand info as it comes.

So.. am I for making medical cannabis legal?.. maybe! Ha! :D

Oh.. he hasn't had ANY BAD SIDE EFFECTS!
But.. what he's using isn't FDA approved!

All the best to ya!
-Wayne
 
No, it's not. The place is PURPOSED for the smoking of dope, but with very rare exception, the city ordinance forbids the smoking of cigarettes within 50' of the public entrance of any commercial establishment.

The fact that you say "surely" clearly indicates that you do not understand and are supposing.

My point, is to illustrate the hypocrisy of this law...


OK. Clear it up for me. Tell me the state, and/or cite the law that ALLOWS smoking pot within 50 feet of the "public entrance to a commercial establishment".


Sgt Lumpy
 
*SIGH*... The establishment is FOR the purpose of smoking dope.

Got it?

Perhaps you're referring to the INSIDE of some kind of establishment? That makes it simpler, to me.

There are designated establishments for the sole purpose of smoking of TOBACCO. You may smoke cigs, cigars, hookas with tobacco etc INSIDE those places. There is no "50 ft rule" about how close to the inside of the door you are allowed to be.

There apparently are (or will be) establishments for the sole purpose of smoking of marijuana. You may smoke marijuana inside those places. There is no "50 ft rule" about how close to the inside of the door you are allowed to be.

At neither place may you smoke tobacco or marijuana OUTSIDE within 50 ft.

"50 ft" is the number you quoted, perhaps that's the distance in your state. In my state it's 20 ft. Substitute whatever number(s) would be appropriate in your area.

Are there "commercial establishments" in your area/state where you are allowed to smoke INSIDE the place yet not within 50 ft of the INSIDE of the entrance? If there are, are they designated smoking parlors? Or are they restaurants, casinos etc that have a "designated smoking area"? There are no restaurants/casinos etc that have a "designated pot smoking area" that I know of.

Are there not "Tobacco smoking parlors" (or other termed establishments) in your state where tobacco smokers are allowed to gather with the sole purpose of smoking (rather than the secondary purpose of smoking while eating, drinking etc).

I'm not "trolling". I simply do not see the argument you're presenting. You want to discuss this?


Sgt Lumpy
 
1morethan8/Wayne, glad to hear that your friend is doing so well. That is truly wonderful!

(I decided a long time ago that I am grateful to receive my miracles in any form they choose to show up!:))
 
I'll admit it, I'm a former user. About a decade's worth from what I've been told.

Pot did not cause any problems, per se. But it did cause me and all of my pothead friends to not give a damn about anything. We were poor, and were not bothered by it. We had no energy and did not care that we had no energy. In short, our ambition was gone. Living in whatever condition was handed to us was fine.

Dude, as long as the bud flowed, it was all good.

Could legalizing pot be just one more measure to put the masses to sleep? The Millennials are zombied by their electronics, it's us Boomers that are the problem.

Stone 'em out and they'll go quietly. Fer Sure, Man...
 
Pot is a lot like booze in that regard. If you smoke a couple bowls everyday you have a problem, if you suck down a 6 pack, a couple highballs or so every evening you same thing. Part of what you experienced was also a culture thing, just like groups of people who hit the bar after work everyday. Just going through life drinking or smoking, no real point.
 
Living in a state where pot has just been legalized and having a few friends that partake, I will share my thoughts.

I don't like it one bit. I smoked pot in high school. Then I grew up and put those things away. I see the need for medical use. But the problem is that it's too easy to obtain. And because it's too easy many people abuse it. They buy it to share with friends.

Drug related crime has risen dramatically. More and more are driving impaired and getting caught. And many are going to work high.

People think that it's only pot and it won't hurt anything. I disagree. People say that legalizing pot will bring the crime rate down and free up law enforcement resources. WRONG!

I don't care what people do behind closed doors. But people can't leave well enough alone and abuse the system. They don't need to do it in public. But then again, people that use pot for other than medical use never had much common sense.

"Oh I just use it to get by" :rolleyes: What a cop out. Get a life. Take up sewing or fly tying.
 
I think Oregon may have a 50' law.

Blujax---I am gonna take your statement up and run with it.
I would suggest that you and your friends were lazy to begin with,
All my friends were stable, we worked, we owned things, sold things, made business work and were very business minded.
The dope did not make you that way---it was your decision. Glad you grew up and became an adult.
some of the statements made in this string must be from folks who bought into the lies of "Reefer Madness" as truth because it came from the government.

Steelslayer---where do you get these facts ? Someone told you ?
Blessings
 
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All I have is the proof of the "before and after" pictures of my life. I wasn't lazy before pot and I wasn't lazy after.

And we're allowed to be honest now since it's legal and all, we all know that slacker stoners are a lot more prevalent than industrious ones.

The argument is moot. The die has been cast.

Smoke 'em if you've got 'em.

I am however, reminded of the old adage:

"Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it."
 
Where is your proof that slacker stoners are a lot more prevalent than industrious ones ? Real question ! Have you seen them all ?
I suggest that the crowd you ran with was an abboration---it certainly did not fit the crowd I associated with.
Blessings
 
I have a friend who is a carpenter who smokes every day and his work is top notch. Hasn't slowed him down at all. What I am opposed to is the synthetic type(k2,k3,etc). People have died from this stuff and I believe some of these are still legal. A designer drug comes out and it takes awhile to ban it. This stuff is bad news.
 
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