LVSteve
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I'd say it got worse.
A Crook is a Crook
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I'd say it got worse.
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Until 1971, NM had Justices of the Peace. Anyone with any connection could get appointed, no eddicatun required. They got paid by fines - $2 for a finding of guilt, nothing for not guilty. Guess how that worked out.
There's an excellent time & place novel called, 'Bloodville' by Don Bullis that incidentally works through the corruption of that system near Budville on old US 66 west of Albuquerque. It's more fact than fiction, with names changed to protect the author from lawsuits.
There's an excellent time & place novel called, 'Bloodville' by Don Bullis that incidentally works through the corruption of that system near Budville on old US 66 west of Albuquerque. It's more fact than fiction, with names changed to protect the author from lawsuits.
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Erich
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This was a rather dramatic moment from the local sheriff in a press conference on the affair this afternoon, reported on several local news sites (but this is a representative and responsible one).
'Pissed off' sheriff slams podium speaking on BCSO's connection to DWI scheme
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'Pissed off' sheriff slams podium speaking on BCSO's connection to DWI scheme
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Maybe because "Peel" is not spelled with the extra e at the end?
That explains everything.
B Parrish is about right. I am sure there has always been some corruption.
Most corruption is only aided by poor supervision.
When hiring practices started changing in the mid 80s things started heading in a bad direction. In the mid 90s I would ask a recruit class how many of them wouldn't be here if they could have found another job paying the same. Over half the class would usually raise their hand. Those people are now supervisors.
When I retired my wife and I could probably count on our hands, under (10), the number of fellow officers that had ever been to our house. Most were guys we were on the pistol team with. In my years I had worked, the same watch, with bank robbers, rapist, drug dealers/addicts, thieves, and about anything else you can imagine, Oh, murderers, yep. Wife the same. Just because you were around them a few hours a day you really don't know them. We had friends and went out to dinner and such and there were lots of great people at work, it's just the way it was.
Some days, especially when she was working Internal Affairs, she would come home shaking her head over things people we knew, but thought no way, had done. Who were now getting fired and or filed on. Sad and too bad!
Most corruption is only aided by poor supervision.
When hiring practices started changing in the mid 80s things started heading in a bad direction. In the mid 90s I would ask a recruit class how many of them wouldn't be here if they could have found another job paying the same. Over half the class would usually raise their hand. Those people are now supervisors.
When I retired my wife and I could probably count on our hands, under (10), the number of fellow officers that had ever been to our house. Most were guys we were on the pistol team with. In my years I had worked, the same watch, with bank robbers, rapist, drug dealers/addicts, thieves, and about anything else you can imagine, Oh, murderers, yep. Wife the same. Just because you were around them a few hours a day you really don't know them. We had friends and went out to dinner and such and there were lots of great people at work, it's just the way it was.
Some days, especially when she was working Internal Affairs, she would come home shaking her head over things people we knew, but thought no way, had done. Who were now getting fired and or filed on. Sad and too bad!
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My BIL and his son, both cops in nearby towns, knew this guy.
Ex-New York police officer sentenced to life in execution of 4 men.
Ex-New York police officer sentenced to life in execution of 4 men.
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Worked with this guy for a number of years. The fact scenario is not comforting - convicted of murder, reversed because of prosector error. Retired NMSP sergeant. McDowell v. Rio Rancho Police Dep't, 1:20-cv-00153 RB/KK | Casetext Search + Citator
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Doug M.
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I have been advocating a RICO action against WSP for most of 2 decades. The trooper are not the problem; the executive staff are. Some years back I asked a friend at WSP how may Captains could pass a background. He did not get bothered, or act surprised. He said "maybe half".
The troopers are generally pretty good to excellent, despite the agency. Their bosses? Not so much. At best a lawless dysfunctional adhocracy (which I have put in writing; I don't GAF about their hurt feelings). Most of them should have guardianships, not guns.
The troopers are generally pretty good to excellent, despite the agency. Their bosses? Not so much. At best a lawless dysfunctional adhocracy (which I have put in writing; I don't GAF about their hurt feelings). Most of them should have guardianships, not guns.
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Seems like a lot folks hit executive ranks and no longer remember what they are supposed to be doing.
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pantannojack
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[QUOTE=steelslaver;142179898 Last year 13,000 people were killed in drunk driving wrecks.
How many in non drunk wrecks? Texting, aggressive driving, fighting with the wife while driving? applying eye makeup?
How many in non drunk wrecks? Texting, aggressive driving, fighting with the wife while driving? applying eye makeup?
LVSteve
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It's hardly a US only problem. This woman is one of a number of younger UK LEO's recently caught misusing police IT and information. Which part of 'privileged information' do they not understand? Note that as a result of her misdeeds, she is one the banned list and can never work in UK LE ever again. We probably need a similar national list here.
PC looked up Nicola Bulley details on days off and shared with mum
This creep got through because he was never properly vetted to be a firearms officer with the police. That he had previously been employed as an armed security type for the nuclear industry is irrelevant, police vetting is (or normally is) far more stringent. This is something the Met still has not explained, to my knowledge.
Murder of Sarah Everard - Wikipedia
PC looked up Nicola Bulley details on days off and shared with mum
This creep got through because he was never properly vetted to be a firearms officer with the police. That he had previously been employed as an armed security type for the nuclear industry is irrelevant, police vetting is (or normally is) far more stringent. This is something the Met still has not explained, to my knowledge.
Murder of Sarah Everard - Wikipedia
Or, maybe they've always been dirty and were able to convincingly conceal their psychopathic features to rise through the ranks.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying...
Doug M.
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I am reasonably sure they never knew. The legal training for that agency has been abymsal for long time. Other than the search and seizure training in their basic, which was done a friend who is one of the sharpest prosecutors in the state, and she had to give it up a while back, their training is done by the AGO.
There are some good AAGs, but the culture of that office is completely messed up. Among other things, they are nice to people who don't deserve it. Their client control paradigm does not match my understanding of that; in my office we work with folks to do it right, but if they don't listen, they risk a reaming that would take the pain off a battleship. 2 days notice to unscrew something, then a real risk of making them cry.
Every commissioned officer, including the Chief was backgrounded before they were hired. They all started out as Cadets and attended the WSP Academy. You might not like the command staff but they have passed a background check.
Doug M.
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That does not mean they could pass one NOW.
Key ringleader in DWI scheme allowed to leave the country
by: Gabrielle Burkhart
Posted: Mar 4, 2025 / 05:41 PM MST
Updated: Mar 5, 2025 / 01:17 PM MST
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The link to the original article works, despite what the link says.
by: Gabrielle Burkhart
Posted: Mar 4, 2025 / 05:41 PM MST
Updated: Mar 5, 2025 / 01:17 PM MST
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The link to the original article works, despite what the link says.
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LVSteve
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Ματθιας;142184939 said:
Seriously? Makes you wonder if the investigation was going places it wasn't wanted and the prosecutors have got the "cease and desist" message from further up the tree.
I've always suspected that Operation G-Sting was carefully bounded not to follow any trails that led higher up the political ladder in Nevada. Operation G-Sting - Wikipedia
I don't know of any LE agency that does ongoing background investigations. FWIW, I took a polygraph after I retired and passed it (so I could serve in another LE agency). I've never been trained in how defeat the poly, I just answer to a Higher Power so I don't cheat, steal, or lie my way through this world.
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The State Department does periodic fingerprint submissions on folks with Secret clearances and above to see if there are unreported changes (i.e. you got arrested and said nothing, unreported employment or other civil matters reqjiring fingerprinting). I believe but cannot swear that DOJ, DOD, and DHS do the same.
Doug M.
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My recollection is that WSP at least sometimes does such checks (fingerprints and DL records) due to at least one trooper's out of state misdeeds. However, the general run of the mill troopers are not the problem. It is the executive staff.
Tolerance of a senior staff member whose dishonesty is reported in 3 judicial opinions; not only no discipline but no Brady/PID report; the decision to allow rioters to block interstates and keep other citizens trapped (unlawful imprisonment X each victim) which was at best official misconduct; blocking I90 so DOT could survey drivers (same offense).
Tolerance of a senior staff member whose dishonesty is reported in 3 judicial opinions; not only no discipline but no Brady/PID report; the decision to allow rioters to block interstates and keep other citizens trapped (unlawful imprisonment X each victim) which was at best official misconduct; blocking I90 so DOT could survey drivers (same offense).
