Concealed Carry Permit. Is This True?

[Lt.Donn]

I've been getting those emails too. New Mexico requires a day of classroom and a morning of live fire. Oddly, the gun you qualify with is the largest caliber you can carry once you have your permit. Qualify with a 9 or .357 and you may not carry a .45 concealed.

Yep...I taught CC classes there for 10 yrs... considering the stranglehold the entrenched Dems have on that state, it is a miracle they have CHL's at all...and every 2 yrs a permit holder must attend either a refresher course or a renewal course..and instructions also must attend CE courses...very restricted, especially in comparison to my ( now) home state, Georgia, where if you are breathing you can obtain a permit.

 

[ccso280k9]

I've been getting those emails too. New Mexico requires a day of classroom and a morning of live fire. Oddly, the gun you qualify with is the largest caliber you can carry once you have your permit. Qualify with a 9 or .357 and you may not carry a .45 concealed.

North Carolina mandates eight hour classroom plus 30 rd live fire course. NO non residence permits. Internet permit is "BS"

 

[MyTurn]

Gun guy here 69 years old., yes I know should have applied years ago like my wife and kids did. Question? I keep seeing ads on the gun channels that I can answerer 6 questions and get my permit. No classroom or shooting. All on line and I am preapproved because I live in Florida. Is this true? Or a scam?

Total BS. Don't buy into this scam. and don't get put in jail for believing it and relying on it. Review the laws in your state and, maybe check with instate gun groups for info on the real way and the legal requirements in your jurisdiction for and method to to get a legally valid permit.

 

[MyTurn]

This ranks right up there with all the 'sovereign citizen' stupidity and BS. No better way to get in really big trouble than buying into it.

 

[Bugkiller99]

Your local Tax Collectors office may offer one stop processing of your application. Once you have taken the needed classes and range time, they do photos, fingerprints and process your application up to the Dept of Agriculture. Cost a little more, but eliminates a lot of hassle.
There are also several processing centers around the state, in the larger cities.

 

[Bald1]

I'm in California. You guys are making me jealous. I'm 74, I've had numerous classes over the years and had armed guard cert, for a few years. I would love to get a ccw just for protection but, ,here, you need a very good reason.

You would think the Constitution would suffice as a reason.

 

[dockmurgw]

Rules, fingerprints, training, etc., etc., etc....you poor devils.

 

[Leonard]

I moved to Florida 4 years ago, no issue obtaining a permit. I cannot remember if my having an Ohio CCW helped. Permit gives you advantage of carrying in reciprocal states, also makes new gun purchases easier.

 

[Tom Garrett]

Gun guy here 69 years old., yes I know should have applied years ago like my wife and kids did. Question? I keep seeing ads on the gun channels that I can answerer 6 questions and get my permit. No classroom or shooting. All on line and I am preapproved because I live in Florida. Is this true? Or a scam?

It’s a scam. In Texas you have to have range time to qualify. Kind of like ads for an ‘International Driver License’. No such thing. Show that IDL to a cop in the UK or Morocco, and you’ll be arrested quickly. But they’ll have your $50-100. Every country has different laws and regulations. Who would be the issuing authority? A company in New Jersey? Not.

 

[Navy vet]

A fugitive is not going to carjack you. He is going to take you as a hostage. The Case I was on in 1984 the hostage was lucky the fugitive was out of bullets in his revolver.

1978, Gary Tison and Randy Greenawalt walked out of Arizona State Prison in Florence after a daring escape staged by Tison's three sons. Six innocent people died at the hands of the Tison Gang. A family of four were murdered and they had a 1911 pistol in the glovebox.

That is why my G19 is in a holster mounted on driver's side of the console. Right next to my right knee.

 

[Denverd0n]

Uhhh... Actually, there really is such a thing as an international driver's license, though technically it is called an International Driver's Permit. Check out the official government website: https://www.usa.gov/international-drivers-license

 

[Navy vet]

I have to think that those "mail order" permits can't be worth the paper that they are printed on. If your state requires a 4 hr in classroom training and a live fire proficiency test they are NOT going to let that slide.

I got my Non Resident AZ CCW pretty easy. But didn't go through a third party. Worked directly with AZ. Had to send in copy of DD214 (in lieu of training) fingerprint cards and passport photos. PA was even easier, but had to be in person to get picture taken and pickup license.

 

[Navy vet]

My local Range provides training classes needed for local CCW and popular non resident CCW. Check with your local range for training.

 

[jurnes]

I'm in California. You guys are making me jealous. I'm 74, I've had numerous classes over the years and had armed guard cert, for a few years. I would love to get a ccw just for protection but, ,here, you need a very good reason.

“Good reason”. Not true since Bruin decision by US Supreme Court.

What county are you in?

 

[justwippet2006]

if you're prior/retired military in Florida you can get your concealed license just by filling out the app, providing a copy of your DD-214 and paying the fee. I think I received my card in less than 2 weeks. Even though we are a constitutional carry state there are still restrictions if you don't have your CCW (carrying in the car for one). And nobody wants to wait 3 days to pick up a shiny new firearm.

 

[Law-dog]

Getting a permit in your state with an actual CCW class gives you a legal status that an attorney can use to protect you in a later shooting issue. When you testify that you were "trained" by a professional and you followed that training in a self defense situation, that creates reasonable doubt in the eyes of the prosecutor and jury. Simple as that, your attorney then shifts the issue to one of whether you followed the training.

As a former prosecutor, 4 law enforcement agencies with a badge, and a CCW instructor starting in 1996, I cannot think of a smarter move than getting a permit that requires a class. I do not care if the class is 4 hours or 40 hours, it fills a square that protects you.

I suspect those adds are scams. That said, I have no objection to anyone getting a second permit, especially if they travel to that state. It shows you are trying to comply with all laws. In Oklahoma the classes I taught entitled carry in 38 states, not sure now but most in the nation recognized it. Our law required an 8 hour class that cost $60 plus finger prints and 2 passport photos and firing 50 rounds safely. Accuracy was not tested.

Get one in your state or anywhere just go through the actual course. There is no need to actually shoot if you have a military or other exemption, just the actual course is what matters and most importantly that you have a certificate that is recognizable in the state where issued.

Any questions?

 

[KWW]

I'm in California. You guys are making me jealous. I'm 74, I've had numerous classes over the years and had armed guard cert, for a few years. I would love to get a ccw just for protection but, ,here, you need a very good reason.

Where in California do you live? Riverside County is a very pro-gun, pro-carry state.

 

[Skyviking]

The online national CCW License ads are scams/spyware. There is no such thing. If your states require a CCW License to carry concealed in the public domain, go to the pertinent .gov site and take your information from there.
CCW Licensees and anyone else carrying a firearm for self-defense need to keep in mind the following: In most, if not all jurisdictions:
1. You can only legally draw your firearm when your assailant's actions have convinced you that you are in imminent, unavoidable danger of death or great bodily harm.
2. There is no such thing as a legally-defensible "warning shot". If the gun comes out, use it unless upon seeing your draw stroke, your assailant decides there are healthier places to be and takes off. If so, wave good bye as you holster up and (yes) call 9-1-1.
3. You may not show, draw/brandish a firearm to compel another person or persons' compliance with your desire for them to leave you alone/alter their direction of travel. The only thing you can do is alter your direction of travel/location. Showing you are armed/pulling your gun is Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon (See #1).
4. There is no such thing as Citizen's Arrest. Case law has abolished that. You are not a Peace Officer or Law Enforcement Officer and have no arrest powers or legal power to "keep the Peace". Everyone is Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Holding someone at gunpoint is kidnapping by force of arms.
5. You have no backup coming unless it is the police or an ill-advised CCW licensee running to the sound of guns to be a hero. Remember that when you draw that Roscoe, it did not come with a PR accessory that sends up a neon billboard over your head that says, "I'm The Good Guy."
6. While getting involved/intervening in Third-Party dust-ups might make you look good in the news/obituary, you have a 50-50 chance of picking the right side to be on and a 100 percent chance of getting sued in civil court by either or both parties - not to mention criminal charges for all the damage/injuries/death caused by your....misses. (Remember Rule 4 of Gun Safety - "Be Sure of Your Target and what is Beyond It", for those of you who need a(nother) refresher.)
7. Have self-defense "insurance". When you draw that gun, you have literally bet everything you own in the Criminal and Civil Justice System Casino. someone has to write that $100K check to get you out on bond and put a cracker-jack legal defense team on your pending criminal AND Civil case(s).

 

[Sawguy]

Here in South Dakota, ( constitutional carry ), cc permit is free if you want one. No classes, etc. You're permit is your Nics check. 4473 and out the door.

 

[raljr1]

I ahve noticed that more and more states are only recognizing out of state permits if you are a resident of the state that issued the permit. Hence, PA may not recognize your Utah permit if you are a resident of Florida.