1905 4th change cylinder stop replacement ????

[M5741]

Needing some help replacing the cylinder stop and spring. The original cylinder stop has quite a bit of wear where it comes up through the frame to lock the cylinder. This in turn allows a lot of rotational slop in the cylinder. The original stop is one that does "not" have the hole for the spring to fit into. The plunger goes into the hole in front of the trigger guard. Then, the spring goes in, and the screw holds everything in place. The plunger is what pushes against the stop.
I received a new stop and spring today. The advertisement said it replaces K, L, N frame stops.The stop itself fits good. The spring is the problem. The spring will not go into the hole where the original plunger pushes on the cylinder stop. The diameter of the spring is approximately .010 to big for the hole. It may in fact be to short, but I can't tell, as it won't fit. I couldn't find a cylinder stop on line to match the original stop without the hole. Has anyone expierienced this particular problem? Is there something I'm missing putting the puzzle together??
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Alk8944]

For the cylinder stop try Jack First in Rapid City SD
605-343-6481, or on-line: Vintage & Obsolete Replacement Gun Parts | Rare Finds


Are you sure the problem is not the slot in the frame being battered laterally?

 

[-BTM-]

Try this source, low on detail but might be what you need

Revolver Parts Kits | EveryGunPart.com

 

[tennexplorer]

For the cylinder stop spring itself, I have used part number 17185 the extra power stop spring. It's about half way down the page. I have not had a problem with the fit in any of my four or five screw revolvers.

https://www.gunsprings.com/SMITH+&+WESSON/K,+L,+&+N+FRAME/cID3/mID58/dID264#448

 

[M5741]

ALK8944: the slot in the frame looks in very good condition.
Thank you members for the information. Maybe I didn't explain the major question I was asking.
The original cylinder stop functions with a plunger and spring inserted in the frame ahead of the trigger guard, held in place by a screw. The plunger itself, pushes on the lower corner of the " original" cylinder stop.
The replacement cylinder stop and spring that was sent are different. The cylinder stop has a blind hole in the lower corner of the stop. The cylinder stop is pushed by the provided spring that fits into the hole where the original plunger came through. But, that new spring is to big in diameter by about .010 to fit into the hole. So, apparently it doesn't look like the new spring and cylinder stop is a straight across replacement???? I even tried using the plunger pushed by the spring as with the original parts, but the new stop will not function with the plunger pushing in the blind hole of the new stop. "
"So, has anyone replaced the original stop with no spring hole, with the new stop with the blind hole in it for a spring"???

 

[chief38]

I am hoping you will be able to find proper parts from the leads above - that would obviously be the easy way. That said and worse case scenario, both a cylinder stop and the spring can me hand made - assuming you have the skills, patience and tools to do it. You or someone who is skilled could use piano wire of proper size to wind the spring. You might even find one (designed for something completely different) in a tool supply or machine parts catalog.

After a year of desperately looking for and not being able to find a specific worn out helical gear for an electric antique fan, I made my own from scratch, by hand, from a piece of brass round stock. I used a Dremel, hand files etc and after an afternoon at my workbench wound up with a new helical gear that till this day works perfect in oscillating the fan. The gear came out perfect in the end and even though it was a bit more challenging because of the helical design, it works great! BTW, the reason I was so hell bent on getting this fan operating again was because it belonged to my folks and that was my "air conditioning unit" when I was a kid. So yes, gun parts can successfully be made too.

 

[M5741]

chief38
That is some fine work. You talk about "old school". That's the way the old "master craftman" did things. Myself, I had a 40 year career in metal fabrication, welding, and machine shops. Really enjoyed the trades. Now, at three quarters of a century in years,
very limited space, no man cave or shop, I will have to wait for a proper cylinder stop to come up on line. Thank you for showing us your expertise sir. I have shot about 175 reloaded rounds through the 5 screw. It's fun to shoot, but certainly not a tack driver. I replaced the center pin, but haven't shot it since that install. Been down with the flu the last few days.

 

[Dennis2149]

I have fabricated damaged parts/springs for vintage fishing reels from piano wire and using hand tools. Can be challenging and also very rewarding to affect the repair oneself. Good luck.