4006 slide stuck/jammed

Okay here's an update, the frame is stripped as far as it can, hammers out,firing pin is out,and I believe he said the trigger is out. Can't get the extractor to release the brass at all. And the slide is stuck just as solid as it was. I don't know his next plan of action. Told him to cut the extractor if need be. I think he's going to put the frame in a vise and get his brass drift pin and "tap/smack" the brass until something gives. The synopsis right now seems to be tiny aliens went down the bore and practiced their intergalactic welding techniques ..... Foxy
 
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The synopsis right now seems to be tiny aliens went down the bore and practiced their intergalactic welding techniques ..... Foxy
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LOL!!! :D :D :D I hate it when that happens! :p
 
I'd risk driving out the extractor pin to remove the extractor instead of "cutting" it. Going to be under some tension, though, even if the slide is held in a vise (manual safety assembly removed). He probably has a really large bench vise, though.

Might damage a 1/16" pin punch used to finish driving out the pin (and will require something used as a "starter punch" to break the pin loose, without wallowing out the top of the hole). Of course, broken 1/16" pin punches often become "starter punches" in their next life. ;)
 
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Has your GS run a rod down the muzzle that fits in the brass and tap it out while pulling on the slide. The worst you would think is the brass will come apart and so will the gun.
 
I beat a fiberglas rod to death as one of the first options down the bore. then went to a steel drift pin, the brass doesn't move. The extractor "lifts" up and down on the brass,I.E. push on the back of it it lifts. Tried that first also. Makes no sense to me seems every thing is correct yet........? Foxy
 
I'm wondering if a piece of SS has sheered off of the barrel locking lug and is somehow trapped between the lug and the inside of the slide? Has the slide/barrel portion of the gun been soaked in penetrant or solvent? Perhaps it would free up the obstruction? Or.... have you tried pushing the slide back forward a bit?
 
Soaked the weapon in PB blaster and have tried to go back to battery with no luck. I got the slide that far back using the range clear of muzzle down on the bench and pounding the the grip After the soaking.Slide wont go forward at all but moves a little bit back and forth 1/16 inch. I think its something with the barrel locked up but its in the hands of the guru now. We'll see.....to be continued...
 
Just thinking out of the box, could it be viable to sacrifice the slide stop lever by grinding/drilling out the tab which rides against the inside of the left side of the slide, driving it out to the left (just like during takedown) and separating the slide/barrel off the front of the frame? This is an interesting thread, and so far all the efforts have been concentrated on cycling the slide to the rear, which is going to risk bashing up the locking surfaces on the frame/slide/barrel which are going to be hard to find any replacements for.

ETA: I was tinkering with a 5946 with the slide stop lever removed, this could only be possible if you can get the slide is fully forward into battery first, otherwise the bottom rear edge of the barrel will not clear the frame going forward. From the symptoms being described by the OP, I strongly suspect it is not the brass stuck in the breech freezing it in place, but something is awry where the barrel meets the frame or a there is a tangled up recoil spring/rod assembly.
 
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Coming up to ft walton this weekend. Got any experience with this type issue?
 
Ft Walton - just west of me - in Panama City.

Not as you describe which is what is so interesting - the responses so far are from people with much more experience and knowledge than me.

I had a few stuck slides that if the dowel in the barrel doesn't fix I take to a local gunsmith - he's really inexpensive and so far so good - his turn around is pretty quick also, usually 24 hours or less
 
I've been following with interest. If it was a ruptured case, I'd think that it would be possible to eventually push the slide back enough to clear it... so my guess is that it's not a ruptured case.

I also note that it still has an intact mag & grips. When my buddy blew a case head in his 45 cal 1911, the lovely Wilson Combat mag was destroyed & the wood grips were splintered.

So what is left? I'm thinking the earlier post about the recoil guide / spring is correct... that it has come appart some how. We'll have to wait for the 'smith to succeed in disassembly to find out.

I would build a fixture... something that would go into the mag well to secure the frame... then I'd construct a hollow devise (adaptor) to fit against the end of the slide & allow the barrel to go into the center. I'd use a small hydraulic cylinder (or a screw) to push on the adaptor to force the slide back enough to pull the slide lock.
If I had a mill vise for my lathe... I might try using the tailstock adjusting screw to do the compressing.
 
I agree its something internal, as now the slide is stuck where it is, wont move forward or back with either pressure or deadblow hammers.Too bad its not a 1911, take the barrel bushing out and Sprongggg goes the spring!!!!
 
Sent before I was ready,anyhow that's about what we did with the pipe vise,got it that far back by hand pounding as I've said,and from there it wont move. The pipe vise had loads of pressure on it with the socket over the guide rod. Hit the vise with a 32 ounce hammer a few times and nothing. Couldnt even tighten the vise more as nothing moved. Wont go back to battery even a touch. Foxy
 
Did we evere get a range report on what happened? Reloads?
Wrong cal cartridge slipped into mag? I know years ago training youngsters on failure drills we would run fired brass in a mag in between live rounds. If you put two fired brass in a glock it could rotate and feed backwards. Had a brass rod to pound out if this was done by the kids trained.
Could culprit be a backward round?
 
@grcoffman104, If you read my above posts you'll see the progress so far. the guru still has it and I'm waiting for the next step. No the brass is in correctly and the extractor is locked on the brass,moves but wont release the brass Foxy
 
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