AMMO TALK

[firearmsunlimited]

Lapua downloadable table
http://www.lapua.com/fileadmin/user_upload/esitteet/LapuaRimfireCartridges2010.pdf

 

[thedrifter]

I know subsonic ammo is not recommended for our guns, but would there be a problem firing Aguila Sniper SubSonics if they were loaded one at a time in the chamber (not fed through mag)?

I don't want to do anything that might cause damage to the gun.

i shot these feed just fine for me DTX with trigger work no FTF or FTE were not very accurate tho, you are talking about the 60grn?

 

[teknic111]

i shot these feed just fine for me DTX with trigger work no FTF or FTE were not very accurate tho, you are talking about the 60grn?

Yeah, I'm talking about the 60 grain. I know they wont be as accurate as other ammo. I just want to make sure I'm not going to damage my gun by using them.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Yeah, I'm talking about the 60 grain. I know they wont be as accurate as other ammo. I just want to make sure I'm not going to damage my gun by using them.

I shot a bunch of Aguila SSS 60 with a suppressed 15-22. No cycling problems at all.

 

[gcsniper]

The rate of twist (1:14) on the 15-22 dictates that it will like the lighter ammo more. That's why the 36-grain groups so well. The same ammo won't shoot as well in a 1:16 barrel.

Actually it is 1:15. The faster the twist (the lower second number) the better it will perform with heavier bullets. Not lighter.

 

[grimreaper21]

from what i understand lower numerically is better for heavier grains, at least on the bigger calibers i assume it applies the same. ie. 1:7 is better for 68grn .223 and 55grn better with 1:9.

 

[g-man-rocks]

Shot 225 rounds of the Federal 550 (Walmart pack) tonight. 225 rounds through 9 clips of 25 each without a single problem. I think we have a winner. I've used my 22 pistol to shoot the left over remington gold and had 2 ft-fire (bad primer that went off with a 2nd strike). I like the price and the quality. Not bad to clean up either. I think this thing is broken in and is really starting to shoot well. 1k rounds later and this rifle is really showing it's colors.

 

[grimreaper21]

Rifle:M&P 15-22 with a Burris 2-7x, timney trigger.
Pistol:Riger Mk3 Tactical Solutoins barrel, Volq trigger/hammer/titanium dics, etc. C-More red dot with 8moa dot. Keep in mind at 15yards that is almost 2".

Ammo test of 6 different types of ammo. I have currently been using Federal 510 40gr for all my matches and practice.

I will now be using Winchester SuperX(brass stamp) 36gr. Cheap stuff at walmart called Win 333 or 555 box. (bought 8 boxes today)

Ammo tested:
1. Winchester 36gr 333/555 - Best of the 6
2. CCI Blazer 40gr - almost as good as the Win333/555 but slightly more spread out.
3. Federal AutoMatch 40gr- Almost the same as Blazer.
4.CCI Target 40gr - pretty good but not cheap bulk ammo. Similar groups to the Win.
5.Federal Champion Lightning 510 40gr - Not that great as shown.
6.Federal 36gr red box from wally world - sucked really bad. 2x the group size in every direction. Looked like a shot gun.

great results i will be using the 333 boxes now, found em for $11.50. comes out ever so slightly cheaper than the 555 boxes, and i can decide to buy less if i want ($30 worth instead of $40 for example.)

The more expensive CCI Target that you used, was that the CCI Green Tag, or CCI Select? came across the CCI select on their website and I am impressed. Trajectory numbers are very nice. I also read somewhere else the following:

" Traditional Match Ammunition for 22LR is generally traveling at "Standard Velocity" of about 1070 fps... As fast as it can go without going super-sonic. Semi-Autos lose a little off this starting velocity due to the blow-back of the bolt. So, CCI developed this slightly faster match-grade 22LR ammo called "CCI SELECT". SELECT has a 1200 fps muzzle velocity. It's not fast enough to be called High Velocity, but just fast enough to give your Semi-Auto the advantages that standard velocity has in bolt guns. This velocity is complimented by the same consistent manufacturing process they use in making their match grade Green Tag ammunition"

 

[Scuds03]

Rifle:M&P 15-22 with a Burris 2-7x, timney trigger.
Pistol:Riger Mk3 Tactical Solutoins barrel, Volq trigger/hammer/titanium dics, etc. C-More red dot with 8moa dot. Keep in mind at 15yards that is almost 2".

Ammo test of 6 different types of ammo. I have currently been using Federal 510 40gr for all my matches and practice.

I will now be using Winchester SuperX(brass stamp) 36gr. Cheap stuff at walmart called Win 333 or 555 box. (bought 8 boxes today)

Ammo tested:
1. Winchester 36gr 333/555 - Best of the 6
2. CCI Blazer 40gr - almost as good as the Win333/555 but slightly more spread out.
3. Federal AutoMatch 40gr- Almost the same as Blazer.
4.CCI Target 40gr - pretty good but not cheap bulk ammo. Similar groups to the Win.
5.Federal Champion Lightning 510 40gr - Not that great as shown.
6.Federal 36gr red box from wally world - sucked really bad. 2x the group size in every direction. Looked like a shot gun.

Out of all the Bulk ammo I've tried I have also had the best results using the winchester 333/555 cartridges.

 

[gcsniper]

The CCI ammo says Standard Volocity at the top where others say Mini-Mag and at the bottom it says Target 1070 fps.

 

[grimreaper21]

emailed CCI about their new "Tactical .22", which also happens to be 1200fps. Sounds promising, i'd like to get a comparison done between cci minimag, standard velocity, and these 1200fps tactical ones that were tested on and likely developed through m&p15-22's

"Tactical is plated to enhance feed characteristics and is packed in 375
count loose pack.

Select is not plated and packed in 100 ct plastic."

So select is just another lead nose. I'll try to get a review up of the tactical, at the very least. the "plated" is just a wash i believe, as i saw someone scratch it off on another forum.

 

[djack]

Really mine has been great, I busted the first 500 rounds of cci mini mags to break in, and shot the federal 550 from walmart, then sighted it in with cci mini mags. It eats anything so far, I might sight in again with match grade ammo, but it has been great on cheapo ammo so far

 

[rtquig]

I was just looking at Cabela's web site and they have the CCI tatical with a dry box 375 rounds at $99. Can this be correct? I'm going to have to call them and see. That sounds too expensive to be correct.
Cabela's: CCI .22LR with Dry Box

 

[rtquig]

Okay, the $99. was for 4 boxes of 375, and a dry box. I ordered 2 boxes at $19.99 each and shipping was $8.50. Won't get here until Nov. 18, so I have to wait and see how it works.
I've had good luck with CCI so far, so if this works out as well I'll buy more. If you call, its item number 217741 for 375 rounds.

 

[grimreaper21]

those dry box deals are stupid, they basically make you pay for the dry box. I just bought my 375 pack yesterday the shelf price was $19.99. So for that $100 you could have just gotten 5 packs instead of 4 + a box.

 

[Antrieb]

Good thread. It helped me pick Federal Bulk pack as my ammo of choice. So far so good with no failures at around 200 rounds.

 

[trueg50]

Yeah, I'm talking about the 60 grain. I know they wont be as accurate as other ammo. I just want to make sure I'm not going to damage my gun by using them.

They should be fine, even if you have to do one at a time.

I used to use them on pesky squirrels around the yard, but I stopped using them due to how incredibly dirty they were. Too many times I pulled the trigger and caught the vapor or something in my eyes.

 

[g-man-rocks]

First fail-to-fire with the federal (up to about 400 rounds of the 550 pack). It looked like a massive glob of primer was blocking the firing pin. No problem on 2nd try. I'm not holding this against the ammo. The remington gold never fails to dissapoint. 60 round through my pistol and at least 4 primer fire issues. I'm going to wally world asap to buy a few more packs of the federal 550 (load type 750 FWIW).

g-man-rocks

 

[ST33L3RS]

you guys are so lucky can't order any ammo on line to ship here to HI. Like they say over here, so lucky we live in HI. Yea right, it has its moments though.

 

[Just another 22 shooter]

I picked up some Tactical 22 ammo from Cabela's last week. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but if it shoots like the rest of CCI's stuff it'll do just fine. If the wind lets up, I may go try some out this afternoon. My 1522 has not been picky at all since I got it back from S&W. I shoot alot of Fed Bulk pack and Lightning for plinking. I have my "Tactical Magazine" charged with Stingers and Velocitors for the night raiders around here(raccoons and possums).