Carrying in States with Magazine Capacity Limits

[Onomea]

I appreciate all the responses, guys.

I don't head into Washington that often, but think that when I do I will either carry a revolver or get a 10 rounder for my P365 for that purpose.

 

[Bald1]

My drivers licence from my state lets me drive in every state, however I need to obey the laws of the state I am driving in. Same goes with my CC permit!!!!

Exactly this^^^^^^^^ we had a chance to fix the reciprocity issue in 2016-18 but Congress couldn’t figure it out. Hopefully if given another chance they will. I really want NY to get gut punched on this !!!!!

 

[Rob613]

Recently flew home to visit family in NY and had to add my Glock 19 to my permit and pick up a 10 round mag before my flight.

I would not want to get caught and have to try to get off on a technicality by the wording of the law. That’s a lot more time and money than just picking up a 10 round mag.

 

[rwsmith]

I don't get it....

My drivers licence from my state lets me drive in every state, however I need to obey the laws of the state I am driving in. Same goes with my CC permit!!!!

My DL is good in all states. All states don't recognize my CC permit.

 

[Barbarosa99]

When in Rome, do as the Roman’s

 

[biku324]

Carry a 40 or 45 with 10 round or less magazine capacity or a revolver. Taking chances makes no sense.

 

[Kanewpadle]

I appreciate all the responses, guys.

I don't head into Washington that often, but think that when I do I will either carry a revolver or get a 10 rounder for my P365 for that purpose.

Get the 10 rounder. Two would be better.

As a non resident, you would be IMPORTING a high capacity magazine.

Glad to have you. Don’t stay long. This place sucks. No….people here suck.

 

[pasound]

I have 10 round mags for every semi I own. If I travel out of state, those are the ones I carry.

 

[Jakerin]

I think they’d have a hard time claiming you are importing a magazine if you plan to leave with it. You’d also be importing your car. That wouldn’t make my “worry about it” list.

I carry whenever and wherever but WA could very well charge someone for violating any law. The ‘if you plan to leave with it’ defense is full of holes. It’s no defense.

 

[dsf]

I think it is always best to go to the text of the law rather than synopsis offered by others. Text of the law:

RCW 9.41.370: Large capacity magazines—Exceptions—Penalty.

Text of the bill as passed includes definition of "import":

https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/bien...ed Legislature/5078-S.PL.pdf?q=20240527205116

"Import" means to move, transport, or receive an item from a place outside the territorial limits of the state of Washington to a place inside the territorial limits of the state of Washington.

"Import" does not mean situations where an individual possesses a large capacity magazine when departing from, and returning to, Washington state, so long as the individual is returning to Washington in possession of the same large capacity magazine the individual transported out of state."

 

[Kanewpadle]

I think they’d have a hard time claiming you are importing a magazine if you plan to leave with it. You’d also be importing your car. That wouldn’t make my “worry about it” list.

If your vehicle registration and or drivers license states anything other than Washington state, you’ve just imported an illegal magazine. Not that hard to figure out.

Same with California.

 

[stansdds]

Exactly this^^^^^^^^ we had a chance to fix the reciprocity issue in 2016-18 but Congress couldn’t figure it out. Hopefully if given another chance they will. I really want NY to get gut punched on this !!!!!

It would be great, but I'm not putting any money on this ever happening.

 

[ladder13]

NY will never have reciprocity even with a SCOTUS ruling.

 

[Doug M.]

I have some pistols that take mags of less than 10 rounds (Shield, G33, 945-1). I can use the standard mags (they are not LCM except by definition) in any pistol for which I already had them (mostly 9mm Glocks). Using them is not a crime since I already had them. In this county, the odds of being arrested/charged unless in conjunction with some other unlawful act are so close to zero it is laughable. Along the I-5 corridor, much higher.

Note: Glocks was and as far as I know still is quite vehement about not using reduced capacity mags for duty or defense. Carry some other platform if you need low capacity mags.

 

[Sgt. Buzzard]

Retired Police sergeant and state certified police academy FA instructor. Moved out of New Jersey just as fast as I could. I return for two week beach vacations. That's when I carry a 442 with 158 gr. SWC. This is because of the HP restrictions, since overturned. I simply don't trust that local LEO's have kept up with court decisions. It's much easier to just reload. NJ has been jerking LEOSA and civilian gun owners around for decades.

Trusting the NJ carry permit is a **** shoot too. Think about it. I did this for 29 years and don't trust the system, what would they do to you Joe Citizen? Washington, California, New York, Massachusetts, Illinois and Maryland. Travel with care.

 

[Dump1567]

When I travel, I comply with whatever that States laws are. I recently was just passing through Colorado. They have a 15 round capacity. Every other state I was going through had no capacity limit. I brought 15 round mags on that trip.

Why create any hassle for yourself? Especially just to carry 2 extra rounds. And what happens if you have to actually use your gun for SD? Is a DA going to make an issue out of the 12 round mag?

Even being retired LE out of CA, I was allowed to keep my large cap mags upon retirement. But when I go back, I bring 10 rounders. I'm no longer a resident of the State and would be considered a large cap mag importer under CA law (at least that's how I interrupt the law).

 

[gjgalligan]

Sort of the same deal, in Pa. No limits on the magazine. Next door in NY they have a 10 round limit (IIRC). Know an auctioneer that auctions a couple of hundred guns most every month in Pa. If a buyer is from NY and the pistol involved in the sale holds more than 10 rounds, the buyer gets the gun, but not the magazine. Yep, they still buy them.

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A seller in PA selling to NY buyers......
That sounds like he is violating the federal law.
If I understand it correctly people can only purchase handguns in the state they reside in.

 

[gjgalligan]

Recently flew home to visit family in NY and had to add my Glock 19 to my permit and pick up a 10 round mag before my flight.

I would not want to get caught and have to try to get off on a technicality by the wording of the law. That’s a lot more time and money than just picking up a 10 round mag.

Is that Montana that requires the firearms to be listed on your permit?

 

[Rob613]

Double post

 

[Rob613]

Is that Montana that requires the firearms to be listed on your permit?

No, NY. Montana does not require a permit.