Circle K is "Unsafe Zone"

[Major 2]

Unless you are in an area prohibited by Florida law from carrying a firearm there, ignoring the sign is not against the law. However, if the owner of the store sees or knows that you have a gun, and asks you to leave, you must. Otherwise you can be charged with criminal tresspass.

That's my understanding, sometime back a favorite restaurant. posted a NO GUNS sign.
This a local favorite and local family owned (the Owner had died several years ago and the daughter and SIL took up the management) in s Sm. to Med size town in the WDW shadow.
Locals fell off, business suffered... the sign came down.

shows to go ya ! with a NO GUNS policy, a favored local place will shoot themselves in the foot.

 

[Telecaster]

It's a 14 year old post. The OP is most likely dead.

Given the average age of this forum's members, you're probably right.

 

[Smoke]

So the Army silver LTC insignia, looks much the same as USAF LTC

So does the Marine lieutenant colonel insignia and Navy Commander insignia

 

[Pisgah]

I fail to see how your actions will in any way improve Circle K's behavior. What you should have done is keep quiet... and carry every time you walk through the door. Concealed is concealed; until you squawked, I'll bet no one would have looked at you twice...

 

[Tony Tiger]

When asked if I have a gun, the answer is no. I have two, possibly three guns on me...

 

[Smoke]

Given the average age of this forum's members, you're probably right.

He hasn't logged in in over 10 years so...

 

[Smoke]

If we're going to run with this 14 year old topic, I don't recall the last time I saw a "No Guns" sign on any business that I frequent in Colorado Springs. The only exception to that is my wife's doctor's offices and the VA.

They used to have them at our bank but on the front door the sign was in black lettering on a black door at the bottom of the door and you had to be looking for it to see it. The side door they had a traditional Gun Buster sign but it was literally at the bottom of the door. I never asked but it was like they were going out of their way to make it difficult for you to see the sign. So they were following corporate policy but not actually restricting you from having a gun in their Bank.

FWIW I ignore the signs entirely when I take my wife to the doctor and I abide by them to the letter when I go to the VA. I rarely go to the post office but I abide by the rules there too.

 

[jscott]

I'm quite sure there are parts of your area that are the same...it's no different than anywhere else (unless you live in Detriot). My hood is pretty rough...but not as rough as some areas of the city. Houston has its warzones,

NYC is the same as LA, the riding DA usually relies on the PD to decide what course of action to take. Any death would result in a grand jury being convened.

I will say this, I would use my firearm to save my life or the life of another, I wouldn't use it to protect property. If I was a clerk in a store and was getting robbed, even with my ccw, I would hand over the cash and even throw in a few lotto tickets. I would only use force if I thought it would prevent an innocent person from dying. I never understood news stories where they had video of unarmed cashiers fighting a perp over a gun. For what? Your minimal wage job and your life?

If I was in a Bank that was being robbed and I thought they would just take the money and run and not hurt anyone, I wouldn't even bother to clear leather. Who cares about property?

NYC is the same as LA, the riding DA usually relies on the PD to decide what course of action to take. Any death would result in a grand jury being convened.

I will say this, I would use my firearm to save my life or the life of another, I wouldn't use it to protect property. If I was a clerk in a store and was getting robbed, even with my ccw, I would hand over the cash and even throw in a few lotto tickets. I would only use force if I thought it would prevent an innocent person from dying. I never understood news stories where they had video of unarmed cashiers fighting a perp over a gun. For what? Your minimal wage job and your life?

If I was in a Bank that was being robbed and I thought they would just take the money and run and not hurt anyone, I wouldn't even bother to clear leather. Who cares about property?

Problem is, sometimes they kill you just to kill you after they have want they want. Unpredictable. My experience working Homicide.

 

[jscott]

I'm quite sure there are parts of your area that are the same...it's no different than anywhere else (unless you live in Detriot). My hood is pretty rough...but not as rough as some areas of the city. Houston has its warzones, too.

Many years ago, I walked a foot beat in Detroit during the summer. I would take a break by sitting in the cooler of an Arab connivence store, knowing the clerks were better armed than me. It was the only place it was safe to take off my body armor.

 

[Oldsalt66]

I'm curious; does the 'No Guns' sign legally prevent you from carrying in Florida?

Texas has very specific requirements for enforceable signage, I was just wondering.

No, those signs have absolutely no force of law in Florida, and any non-prohibited person may carry a concealed weapon or firearm with or without a license in this state, except in the locations clearly specified by law.

I apologize for taking 14 years to answer your question.

 

[Glenn Nesmith]

I would have asked, with my 20-20 hindsight, "What does the sign protect you from?" If the employees' mouth starts gaping like a brook trout, I might add, "Do criminals obey signs?"

Asking an employee, who has no say whatsoever on the sign, is just silly. It's a corporate headquarters issue, so ask the CEO.