Circle K is "Unsafe Zone"

[feralmerril]

Out west, got your message, sent you a p.m. The owner told me his version before his trial. All I know for sure is he went to jail (dont know how long) heard they got sued, lost the store and got a divorice. His story didnt keep him out of jail. I knew his nephew, maybe I can locate him when I go back on a visit and get the skinny. FM

 

[feralmerril]

I dug this story up that I probley posted here before maybe 6 months ago on another thread. Hopefully you havent seen it before, but it is about this subject albeit around 85 years ago.

Back around 1920 my mothers family ran a large country general store with another family, also in wisconsin. All lived above the store. A man through gravel at the upstairs windows trying to get attention for gas in the middle of the night. In those days it wasnt unusual.
Grandpa got up to pump them some gas. It was two robbers, grandpa remembered them earlier when they must have cased the store. They threw down on him and walked him into the store to open the safe. Grandpas partner, heine priess and his wife gussie heard the commotion and heine started down the stairs with a pistol in his hand. Gussie followed heine down the stairs, so was above him. One of the robbers yelled to heine ta "stick em up!" Heine raised his hands with the gun, and gussie grabbed heine,s gun out of his raised hand, stepped down and started to beat the crook over his head with the gun! The other robber shot her through the arm! Didnt kill her, I met her and heine when I was a kid. They pulled the job and got away. The next day or two later the sheriff in the neighboring county had heinie and grandpa come over to identify a body. Later the same night the pair broke into another store and the next morning a body was found at the door.
This happened at auroaville wisconsin, and I belive the other store was at horicon wisconsin, about 40 miles away. Also they were dressed in army overcoats, so I kind of surmise they were soliders returning from world war one. Seems I heard that.
Years went by and both familys moved to anaheim california and opened another store. ( think about 7 years later.) Grandpa and heine were downtown LA on business on a street car. They reconised the other robber! They had him arrested and he copped out to not only robbing them but to killing his partner that night and many crimes since.
He said they hit that other store and accidently shot his partner while climbing through the transom over the door!
As I was told, I dont think the robber did all that much time as so much time had passed etc. I know I read a old clipping my mother kept on it and I think I might have it in storage. Mom said she was about 6 years old when it happened and she was born in 1914. This all happened at auroaville wisconsin. The other store was at horicon wisconsin, about 40 miles away. Seems I was told they might have been soliders returning from world war one, as mom said they both were wearing army overcoats. I was raised in another store grandpa built after that one burned. (My mom ran the newer store at auroaville durring world war two.)

 

[oldman45]

Old news.

The Southland Corp owns Circle K and is one of the largest supporters of the anit gun movement in the US.

Every Circle K has a small sign (may not be legal in some areas) saying what is not legal in their window near the door.

I do not trade with Circle K or any of their other stores owned by Southland Corp.

 

[blujax01]

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I will say this, I would use my firearm to save my life or the life of another, I wouldn't use it to protect property. ...If I was in a Bank that was being robbed and I thought they would just take the money and run and not hurt anyone, I wouldn't even bother to clear leather. Who cares about property?

Totally agree. And to those who carry in spite of "no Guns Allowed" signs, you're making life difficult for those of us who uphold the laws requiring CCW holders to heed these signs. Mark my words, the Anti's are looking for any opportunity to take away our CCW privileges and you're spoon-feeding them reasons with your stubbornness. At least give up your CCW license. That way when you are arrested, the headlines won't read:
"Gun Nuts Ignore Concealed Carry Laws - Pack Heat Wherever They Please!"

 

[oldman45]

Totally agree. And to those who carry in spite of "no Guns Allowed" signs, you're making life difficult for those of us who uphold the laws requiring CCW holders to heed these signs. Mark my words, the Anti's are looking for any opportunity to take away our CCW privileges and you're spoon-feeding them reasons with your stubbornness. At least give up your CCW license. That way when you are arrested, the headlines won't read:
"Gun Nuts Ignore Concealed Carry Laws - Pack Heat Wherever They Please!"

I agree. Do not break the law by doing something wrong. Shop elsewhere.

 

[daveh75]

I'm quite sure there are parts of your area that are the same...it's no different than anywhere else (unless you live in Detriot). My hood is pretty rough...but not as rough as some areas of the city. Houston has its warzones, too.

I am from the Dallas area and my wife is from the Houston area...don't go unarmed in either area , of course I work in the Nation's Capital....had to do some work in one of the buildings up there and the particular agency I was working with told me I couldn't carry inside the building, but they didn't want me to run around DC without it....so I came back when they could escort me....makes you wonder doesn't it....

 

[daveh75]

I agree. Do not break the law by doing something wrong. Shop elsewhere.

I can see the validity of both points of view: if you carry where it is prohibited and have to use deadly force to protect life...then you are alive but end up either in jail/prison and subject to a civil law suit and your actions give fuel to the anti-gun crowd; on the other hand if you continue to do business with an organization that prohibits lawful carry and then are faced with a life and death situation....well you can fill in the gaps....both are good points and I won't claim to give advice either way, for me it is a simple solution: 1) avoid those establishments that don't allow CC, 2) become and remain proficient at other forms of self-defense that aren't posted as being prohibited....yeah I know someone is going to laugh at my "kung-fu grip"....but hey I can sleep at night

 

[Lost Lake]

This Heine story has me wondering... We live not far from Horicon, WI and frequent an OLD general store in Minnesota Junction, WI called Heine's. Minnesota Junction consists of maybe three houses and the old general store which is situated right on the railroad tracks. The store used to serve railway men providing everything from booze to ladies. They still have an amazing mirror that serves as a doorway leading upstairs where the ladies were. The mirror is very old, engraved with the image of a sexy gal scantily clothed, giving you an idea what you will find behind the mirror.
The elderly owners now serve some very popular pizza and love to talk about the history of the store. I'm going to ask them about the story of Gussie and see if there is a relation.

 

[feralmerril]

Wow! This was back around 1920! Wonder if there is anyway of finding records on it? Somewhere I might have a newspaper clipping passed down from my mother, but if I recall right it was right after my grandparents got hit and before the sheriff or police had my grandpa and heine come look at their body. Auroahville is about 6 miles north of berlin on highway 49. Years back I also had a aunt and uncle work in his fathers store in horicon. Think they ran a IGA or something and also made their own brand of pop, "Wisemans". That was back in the 50s. I used to bow hunt on the horicon marsh around 1955. Quite a place for goose hunting too!
Just for the fun of it, here is a picture of grandpa and me haveing a smoke together back in 1944 or 1945. His name was john bruhn. "JD"

 

[hatt]

I haven't seen any signs around central FL Circle Ks, but I don't look that hard either. An easy fix. Just give places who want your business the business. I'll have to check this out. I've had to use Circle K recently because my local independent station no longer sells fuel while they move to a new location.

 

[haggis]

Sign? What sign? (with thanks to G. Gordon Liddy)

Buck

 

[rchance]

If your carrying concealed who's going to know?

 

[hatt]

If your carrying concealed who's going to know?

That's not really the point. In Florida who cares if they know. All they can do is tell you to leave, which is a good thing. You shouldn't be giving them money anyway when they have a sign telling you they don't want your business. Plenty of stores don't mind your business.

 

[jtpur]

If this was in Florida it only applies to bad guys not CCW holders. But I agree, i wouldnt waste my time or money on them

 

[01shm]

Always carry more than one

 

[Lost Lake]

Wow! This was back around 1920! Wonder if there is anyway of finding records on it? Somewhere I might have a newspaper clipping passed down from my mother, but if I recall right it was right after my grandparents got hit and before the sheriff or police had my grandpa and heine come look at their body. Auroahville is about 6 miles north of berlin on highway 49. Years back I also had a aunt and uncle work in his fathers store in horicon. Think they ran a IGA or something and also made their own brand of pop, "Wisemans". That was back in the 50s. I used to bow hunt on the horicon marsh around 1955. Quite a place for goose hunting too!
Just for the fun of it, here is a picture of grandpa and me haveing a smoke together back in 1944 or 1945. His name was john bruhn. "JD"

I love family history like this!!! If you're looking on a map, Minnesota Junction is just a few miles west of Horicon, WI. At the intersection of 26 and 33.
Yes, the geese are still in Horicon Marsh. Often they are so thick on the road that traffic can't get through. And many of them don't migrate like they're supposed to, they just stay around. The rest that migrate make an amazing sight when they do so. The sky is black with tens of thousands of geese and the noise is unbelievable. I live about 15 miles from the Marsh and they come to my lake also for a pit stop. Sometimes they walk across my lawn to take a break from the water, and boy can they leave a mess behind them!!! Golf courses have a real problem with the mess too.

 

[feralmerril]

I was raised mostly at eureka, on the fox river about 40 miles north of you, between berlin and omro. Miss that country.

 

[Ogandydancer]

N C has no specific sinage requirements. Threr are however some places where like some others have said I ignore them. I do NOT however make this a practice.

 

[bubbiesdad]

A little thread drift, but maybe not. I worked Los Angeles for over 20 years. LA is very anti-gun, but a pretty good place to be if you actually USE one. I investigated several shootings where the store owner shot the bad guy without any repercussions afterwords. One gentleman, a jeweler on Melrose (Hollywood), shot 6 robbers in 4 different robberies. I think he killed 4. He got his guns back (he carried 2 in the store, with a couple of others stashed in strategic locations) and wasn't screwed with by the DA. Feralmerril's story, though...Hmm...no gun, no wits, not good. That would be a tough one to investigate.
Bob

Are you talking about Lance Thomas?

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[straightshooter1]

No signs in any of the two or three Circle Ks I frequent here in the TampaBay area. Maybe this wasn't "corporate," rather perhaps it was the manager of that particular store.

Bob