Generation gap? Are we getting old or what?

Does that now mean that all the old fashioned tapes I have used for 60 + years are now obsolete or destined to be collector items.-:eek:

No, but it does mean that if you can read a framing square you can probably receive an honorary PhD. "Presented to you for your outstanding trigonometric knowledge in the performance of assembling structural materials in the carpentry trade."


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I disagree, I've seen it more than once first hand.

The phones are GREAT! You can do your banking, ordering, etc.

Most peoples' lives are on that great invention. (sarc)

When the phone breaks or your not getting a strong signal or there isn't a working cell tower within miles of where you happen to be.

"HEY BUDDY, How you gonna pay for that gas I just put in your
car"? Ah, hold on I trying to get a signal.

"I can't come in to work today because my phone is broke".

Recently a solar flare knocked out some communications around the country.

I found this post on another forum funny.

"Last night at work nobody's phones were working for a couple of hours. No calls, texts or internet. Wasn't just with one carrier either. It was awful. We had nothing to do but work."
 
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A while back, was buying some screen wire from a Mexican Hardware Store.
I gave him my foot - inch measurements.
He measured, cut, then turned over his tape and went Metric.
Punched a calculator and gave me the price in Pesos.
Punched some more and converted to $$.
A Gringo who measures in Inches wouldn’t mind paying in Dollars, would he?
Not me!
The only thing I didn’t like was he gave me my change in Pesos.
 
When I was working I had to deal with measurements in links and chains! It was insinuated that I was a rod man for George Washington.

No Rods? My Dad was a surveyor hut never took the test. He learned in the USFS in the late 20s. He really used the skill when a timber manager for GP checking surveys of tracs of timber land.
 
For several generations up until the 1960’s, it is my opinion that the majority of people were raised in a “traditional “ family unit (depending on location and vocation, this had great bearing on the size of said family). Life changed in major ways from the civil war through the 1950’s (especially in the US). Morals and societal mores were still more homogeneous and widespread, public behavior (for better or worse) was held to a higher standard in spite of what private behaviors one might engage in. Please spare me the snide comments about “the good old days …..weren’t “. I would agree with that sentiment concerning race, equality of opportunity, advances in medicine and technology. In many, many ways the country and the world are much better for the progress made in those areas.
But I submit many (with little or no regret) are quite content to throw the baby out with the bath water in conflating personal freedom with abandonment of manners, a sense of community where the good of your neighbors should be almost an equal consideration as with you yourself, common courtesy, common decency in speech, and on and on. Our society has become more violent, vulgar, coarse, profane, irreverent and selfish and you may personally choose to excuse or overlook such but there is no doubt such portends rot in the foundation of the house.
You cannot teach someone habits, restraint, judgment and respect if you have little or no such qualities yourself; and we see the steady deterioration in the discourse and public displays of things that offend and vex the soul of someone with any sense of righteousness, decency and self respect. I further submit its like maintaining your home or car - the longer it’s neglected the worse it gets. Not trying to start an argument, but I expect the responses from the usual suspects as to “I’ll do what I want; nobody can judge me; nobody can tell me what to do”. Those are the end product of just what point I’m putting forth. The more people that foul their own nests with the tacit or complicit approval of society the more everyone suffers.
The “generation gap” as was coined in the ‘60’s was indeed a needed wake up call, as the institutional hypocrisy of denying the truth of the Constitutional mandate we were given was laid bare. But it has allowed license for all the worst of human nature to be drug into the light and celebrated and we’re now taught to believe we must accept it. Each generation that moves farther and farther away from our foundational principles and what is accepted as ‘right and wrong’ indeed widens the gap. A lot of “progress “ …. Isn’t.

Remember Sodom and Gamora...........When someone had, had enough they got nuked.........
 
No Rods? My Dad was a surveyor hut never took the test. He learned in the USFS in the late 20s. He really used the skill when a timber manager for GP checking surveys of tracs of timber land.

Oh yeah, I dealt with rods aka perches aka poles all the time, both lineal and area. 16.5 feet to a lineal rod, 4 rods to a chain, 100 links to a chain, 66 feet to a chain, 160 square rods to an acre. I worked mostly in a county in Maryland that was a rural county going suburban. Deeds containing legal descriptions measured in rods were used for decades in the chains of title. I became an Associate member of the state surveyors' association even though I wasn't a licensed surveyor because I worked in a related industry.
 
Metric system is Easier as everything is based on 10 even down to .0001 of a millimeter. Found a piece of .002 mm feeler gauge in bottom of an old tool box.
I quite agree. The system is simple and universally the same for linear and volumetric measurements.

Problem I’ve seen people struggle with is meaning or physical relevance. We generally have a good concept of inches, quarts, pound or miles.
Getting the physical meaning of centimeters, liters, kilograms or kilometers is difficult for many people.

Like learning a new language. Best undertaken when young.
 
My Dad “ collected” some very old surveys have them packed up in storage and some are from the 17 hundreds, very interesting. Before modern corner stakes and GPS large trees were used. Long gone in the 1950s so sometimes corners were difficult to determine. I remember many times going “ in the woods” with him holding surveying staffs and tying red, orange and yellow surveying tape to trees indicating “ boundaries”. Many many loggers “ went over” these boundaries resulting in them paying for the timber they cut on someone else's property. My Dad was not amused and recall some of his comments to these loggers which I can’t post. LOL Also remember the log trucks coming to the mill where the standards had pins at the bottom. These pins were pulled by a long chain then the binding chains on the opposite side were released allowing all the logs to roll off on the deck. This is where one of my pet raccoons came from as the mother coon came flying out of a hollow log. Guys working the deck knew to cut the log into 3’ sections where they found 2 kits that their eyes were not open. One of the Best pets I ever had. Those were the days.
 
444 Magnum;14192794 We have a code since there are no 1/16" designations. They call out something like "101 3/8 and a line". I know that's 101 and 7/16". It's funny but it works. ;) [/QUOTE said:
My grandfather was a carpenter and he wouldn't use a measurement that had over 12 in. It had to be so many feet and less than 12 inches. Example 3 ft. and 4 in, no such measurement as 40 in. Larry
 
My grandfather was a carpenter and he wouldn't use a measurement that had over 12 in. It had to be so many feet and less than 12 inches. Example 3 ft. and 4 in, no such measurement as 40 in. Larry

Yeah, everyone has their system. I've found it easier to say, for example, 101 rather than 8 feet, 5 inches. One less syllable sort of thing. ;) I try to make it as simple as possible so as to avoid mistakes.
 
As much as I recognize the superiority of the metric system, I am too accustomed to the English system.

When the temperature is reported as 100 F, I know it's hot out.

When it is reported as 37.8 C, I think "Huh???"

One clear advantage of the metric system is measuring mass. 10 kg is 10 kg, independent of the force of gravity (it is a measure of mass, not weight).

The lb is a measure of force (usually called weight). 100 lb on earth is only about 16 lb on the moon.

In an attempt to address this, they came up with the pound-mass and the pound-force (lbm and lbf). On earth they are equal. Anyplace else they are not.

And then there is the slug...
 
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