A thousand pardons Sir, I did not mean to speak badly of your snipe gun. But for snipe I think I would do better with a full auto 12 ga (LOL)
Gun Grievances: Things You Just Don't Like
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A thousand pardons Sir, I did not mean to speak badly of your snipe gun. But for snipe I think I would do better with a full auto 12 ga (LOL)
phenson
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I absolutely hate when someone stands over me at the dealer or at a table at the gunshow when I'm trying to hammer out a deal. Most of the time these idiots will make comments on the gun you are trying to buy or some even have the gaul to try to interject comments about the deal as its going down. I walked away from a buy at the local gunshow this weekend because the dealer let a guy step in between him and me after we had started talking prices, not once but twice. The second time I told the dealer forget it and walked away from something I was really interested in. My local dealer now lets me talk to him in the office when we're talking trade or cold cash.
IndianaDave
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The best quote yet:
"3. Smith and Wesson: I've said it before, and I'm saying it again. Your internal lock is a nothing but a bow to political correctness, and when it malfunctions (which it has proven to do from time to time in spite of your assertions) it endangers lives. This stupid device has no place on a gun, particularly one which may have to be relied upon for self protection. You may get sued within an inch of your corporate life someday when that lock malfunctions at the worst possible moment. If you have to have an inactivation device, place it out of sight and make it foolproof. Other firearms manufactureres have done this, and yes, you can too. In short, get rid of the damned internal lock.
P.S.: you might also experience a nice sales boost by doing this."
+1000 !!! That's something i will never, ever buy.
"3. Smith and Wesson: I've said it before, and I'm saying it again. Your internal lock is a nothing but a bow to political correctness, and when it malfunctions (which it has proven to do from time to time in spite of your assertions) it endangers lives. This stupid device has no place on a gun, particularly one which may have to be relied upon for self protection. You may get sued within an inch of your corporate life someday when that lock malfunctions at the worst possible moment. If you have to have an inactivation device, place it out of sight and make it foolproof. Other firearms manufactureres have done this, and yes, you can too. In short, get rid of the damned internal lock.
P.S.: you might also experience a nice sales boost by doing this."
+1000 !!! That's something i will never, ever buy.
I could not agree more. I see it all the time at the local gun shop. Seems you can not have a discussion with the owner/manager/salesperson without some know it all interrupting and putting in his comments, "expert" opinions. Buzz off, I'm either trying to learn something or make a deal.
Frank237
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All this MOLON LAABE Silliness.......99.9% of the folks sporting the phrase are far, FAR away from being WARRIORs.
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David LaPell
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Something I saw recently, but I have been seeing it more and more. The local gunshop hiring someone to work part time who is there just to shine a seat with his butt and get a check instead of selling guns. I was at one such shop and was looking at a decent Mauser and got how detestable any military rifle that wasn't American was. I heard how the Mauser action was junk and the M1 Garand was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Keep in mind this guy wasn't all that old, and I have no idea if he served in the military or not. I asked him if he like the 03 Springfield. He loved it. What he didn't love was the fact that I pointed out it was based on the Mauser action, as was a great number of bolt action hunting rifles.
To me if you're going to work in a shop and someone is looking at a gun there for sale, don't run that type of gun into the ground. I was working at a gun show and a friend of the owner stopped by and nearly botched a sale. The guy was a new shooter and was looking at a Ruger .22 pistol and this chowderhead who was the owners friend told the buyer that you needed a degree in engineering to field strip it. He did cost the guy a sale when he told someone looking at a Model 36 that he was an idiot for looing at a revolver to carry in a pocket with the hammer. Don't run your own inventory or that of your friend into the ground when trying to sell it.
When I am looking at a gun at a shop or show, and I have someone come up and look over my shoulder. It's called personal space for a reason. If you like the gun and I'm not buying it, then by all means wait a minute and you can play with the toy too.
Or when I am looking at a gun to have some schnook come along and tell me that whatever gun I am looking at is ****, garbage, etc. If I thought that, I wouldn't have wasted my time in looking at it.
If I have some Mall Ninja come into a gun shop while I am there dressed like they just attended a seminar on how to look like a tactical goof. I mean cmon, black BDU's, black jump boots, a polo shirt and a gut doesn't match. I mean, I am not skinny by any means, but I know it and know that I was not meant to look as though I was trying out for SWAT. Stop dressing like Paul Blart.
If I have one more clerk try to tell me what I want when I know better myself. No, I don't want to see that Glock, I want to look at the .38 revolver in the back.
And no, I don't care what the Army, Marines, Secret Service, or the Border Patrol carries, if I wanted to buy one, I would ask to see one, now shut up and hand me that revolver.
Tactical. I am really starting to hate the word. I don't need a tactical flashlight, pen, bag, hat, shirt, or anything else. Bill Jordan did just fine with a six shot .357 and a leather holster, I reckon I can do the same.
To me if you're going to work in a shop and someone is looking at a gun there for sale, don't run that type of gun into the ground. I was working at a gun show and a friend of the owner stopped by and nearly botched a sale. The guy was a new shooter and was looking at a Ruger .22 pistol and this chowderhead who was the owners friend told the buyer that you needed a degree in engineering to field strip it. He did cost the guy a sale when he told someone looking at a Model 36 that he was an idiot for looing at a revolver to carry in a pocket with the hammer. Don't run your own inventory or that of your friend into the ground when trying to sell it.
When I am looking at a gun at a shop or show, and I have someone come up and look over my shoulder. It's called personal space for a reason. If you like the gun and I'm not buying it, then by all means wait a minute and you can play with the toy too.
Or when I am looking at a gun to have some schnook come along and tell me that whatever gun I am looking at is ****, garbage, etc. If I thought that, I wouldn't have wasted my time in looking at it.
If I have some Mall Ninja come into a gun shop while I am there dressed like they just attended a seminar on how to look like a tactical goof. I mean cmon, black BDU's, black jump boots, a polo shirt and a gut doesn't match. I mean, I am not skinny by any means, but I know it and know that I was not meant to look as though I was trying out for SWAT. Stop dressing like Paul Blart.
If I have one more clerk try to tell me what I want when I know better myself. No, I don't want to see that Glock, I want to look at the .38 revolver in the back.
And no, I don't care what the Army, Marines, Secret Service, or the Border Patrol carries, if I wanted to buy one, I would ask to see one, now shut up and hand me that revolver.
Tactical. I am really starting to hate the word. I don't need a tactical flashlight, pen, bag, hat, shirt, or anything else. Bill Jordan did just fine with a six shot .357 and a leather holster, I reckon I can do the same.
Out West
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Couple of beefs, some already mentioned some maybe not:
Don't like prejudice against new materials and new types of actions. These are the "plastic gun" haters and DA/SA abusers.
Tarted up AR-15s; the ones with all kinds of hardware hanging off rails, multiple sighting systems and more weight in accessories than the rifle itself.
Endless threads on well known topics: examples - Sigma triggers, kinetic energy, lubricating guns, kydex, and stopping power.
Rants against the NRA.
"What should I buy?" gun threads.
Overly styled pistols (can you say Springfield MDX?).
1911's priced over $1K.
MIM rants. It works, get over it.
IL rants. Move on.
Capricious grouping of discussion categories (sorry Big Ape).
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West
Don't like prejudice against new materials and new types of actions. These are the "plastic gun" haters and DA/SA abusers.
Tarted up AR-15s; the ones with all kinds of hardware hanging off rails, multiple sighting systems and more weight in accessories than the rifle itself.
Endless threads on well known topics: examples - Sigma triggers, kinetic energy, lubricating guns, kydex, and stopping power.
Rants against the NRA.
"What should I buy?" gun threads.
Overly styled pistols (can you say Springfield MDX?).
1911's priced over $1K.
MIM rants. It works, get over it.
IL rants. Move on.
Capricious grouping of discussion categories (sorry Big Ape).
Out
West
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ljmvaw124
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I know it's been quoted before, but it's worth repeating (Thanks, Paladin85020)
Again, Smith and Wesson - get rid of the safety warnings on the side of the 1911 series. Doesn't owning a gun imply a certain level of responsibility ? As in learning how the weapon works ? I like the S&W 1911 series, but that safety warning aggravates me and insults me at the same time ...... I don't need, nor want, that warning. Try treating your potential customers like adults, not irresponsible children ......
Again, Smith and Wesson - get rid of the safety warnings on the side of the 1911 series. Doesn't owning a gun imply a certain level of responsibility ? As in learning how the weapon works ? I like the S&W 1911 series, but that safety warning aggravates me and insults me at the same time ...... I don't need, nor want, that warning. Try treating your potential customers like adults, not irresponsible children ......
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Fishinfool
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Cars without tail fins...
mg357
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i really don't like the ils on s&w revolvers its just so ugly
Armyphotog
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Yeah, right on, on all of the above. And, come to think of it, I don't like you very much, either! I believe that covers everything. Time to close this thread, or is it more like a string, now.
Bullseye Smith
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Easy - If it isn't a S&W, then you don't have anything. I will take all of the IL's and MIM guns over any (and I mean any) colt or ruger. I told a guy once at the gun show that wanted to trade a Tarass in on a Smith that we don't deal in junk. Sorry if you can't handle it, Smith & Wesson is the best even in the worst case.
ol' geeser
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Hosts and/or guests on T.V. hunting shows that can't shoot....with the kids, a certain amount of that is understandable.....for the hosts and other adults , it is inexcuseable....
Here are mine:
White line spacer & skip line checkering on gun stock.
Rifles don't comes with iron sight.
Bi-pods
Shooters only shoot from benchrest or sandbags and think its marskmanship.
Know it all only shot guns with scope; laser; red dot... can't figer out how to use open/peep sight, insisted "they're outdated".
"Experts" talk my ears off about shooting, as soon as I invited them to a rifle/pistol match of any discipline, they ran away and scream like a little girl.
White line spacer & skip line checkering on gun stock.
Rifles don't comes with iron sight.
Bi-pods
Shooters only shoot from benchrest or sandbags and think its marskmanship.
Know it all only shot guns with scope; laser; red dot... can't figer out how to use open/peep sight, insisted "they're outdated".
"Experts" talk my ears off about shooting, as soon as I invited them to a rifle/pistol match of any discipline, they ran away and scream like a little girl.
My short list: Any 97 shot wounder loader, tac. rails on handguns, Ak 47's anything called tactile, and my number one dislike anyone who does not understand that the .357 Magnum round is the end all be all of handgun rounds.
Gun show hogs: "May I finish speaking with the dealer?" delivered in a cold tone of voice.
Tacticool shooters at the range: "Let's shoot 10 rounds at a target for a $1 a point." the following silence is wonderful.
Irksome items: Glocks, AR Tacticools (rifles or owners), 460 or 500 revolvers at an indoor or covered range, people who are not as smart as their gun, guys making the lady shoot a wrist wrenching hand gun -- she's a lady jerk ( here try my 44 mag [with real bullets, not the practice loads I was shooting] ooh it don't kick).
And yes I do like my TC Contenders, XP-100 with red, white, blue laminated stock (it will out shoot your rifle), and my revolvers with a scope.
This is a great thread.
Tacticool shooters at the range: "Let's shoot 10 rounds at a target for a $1 a point." the following silence is wonderful.
Irksome items: Glocks, AR Tacticools (rifles or owners), 460 or 500 revolvers at an indoor or covered range, people who are not as smart as their gun, guys making the lady shoot a wrist wrenching hand gun -- she's a lady jerk ( here try my 44 mag [with real bullets, not the practice loads I was shooting] ooh it don't kick).
And yes I do like my TC Contenders, XP-100 with red, white, blue laminated stock (it will out shoot your rifle), and my revolvers with a scope.
This is a great thread.
oberon
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I have to celebrate diversity in firearms preference. Generally speaking, any gun is better than none. My only requirement is that it must go 'bang' on the first try. Each attempt at improvment or custom detail is usually rooted in some practical consideration, whether real or imagined. If guys weren't willing to apply adaptive engineering to firearms, we would all be firing muzzle loaded match lit hand cannons. For real. Let 'em do whatever they like, and see if there isn't a revolutionary breakthrough at some point for some of 'em. Does any one recall Jon Moses Browning's first attempt at an automatically firing rifle? Go check that one out.
That's our opinion. We welcome yours. But we won't pay much attention to it.
ps. I wasn't born tomorrow.
That's our opinion. We welcome yours. But we won't pay much attention to it.
ps. I wasn't born tomorrow.
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Here are a few of my pet peeves. I apologize in advance if they offend anyone.
People with seventy five guns that can't shoot well with any of them. Serves them right for hoarding guns just to "have" them. Reminds me of people with gourmet kitchens and several hundred bucks worth of pretty pots and pans hanging from pretty racks, who never cook. (they usually eat out so as not to dirty the pretty pans) Just plain sad.
$2,000 and up 1911's. Actually, $1,000 and up 1911's. I just recently watched two friends, one with a Kimber and one with a Dan Wesson, get trounced by a yokel with a Taurus in an accuracy and function competition. I'll take a bone-stock Colt over a boutique gun any day of the week.
RB to SB conversion grips that remind me of a glock grip. I really dislike round butt grips, but that doesn't mean I want a conversion grip the size of a beer bottle. If you ask me (and I know nobody is, or should be) RB N-frames are as appealing as decaf coffee with artificial sweetener and non-dairy creamer.
Magnumitis. Faster, louder, and higher pressure is not always necessary or even reasonable. Sorta like owning a Hemi truck with monster tires to drive to the office on the interstate every day. Fit the tool to the job. Sadly, that's becoming a vanishing art. Lotsa guys in my neck of the woods hunting whitetails in dense cover (30-40yard shots max) with 300winmags, shortmags, and assorted other flamethrowers when a 30-30 would be just as effective and much less expensive, painful, damaging to the meat, ...etc.
Muzzle loaders that look like something from Star-Wars.
AR15's with twenty pounds of tactical nonsense on them. Goes back to the Hemi Truck for suburban commuting.
10-22's with twenty pounds of tactical nonsense on them.
Anything with twenty pounds of tactical nonsense on it unless it's being carried by a SWAT team member on duty.
Flavored coffee. I know it's a little out of context, but coffee shouldn't require a twenty five syllable description to order. Coffee is a medical need, not an esoteric experience. I like my coffee to smell like coffee, not like a mixture of suntan lotion and "Hot Desert Nights" aroma therapy candles. Plus, that stuff is as sweet as Zarex straight-up. I'll lump Chai in with these coffee imposters, as too dainty for my liking. I worked with a fellow a few years ago, who wore Patouille oil and drank Chai tea every day. The combined odor was so nauseating I actually got in the habit of sticking two spent 45colt shell casings up my nostrils to mask the guy's foul scents. Not a pretty picture, but it worked well.
Tanto-bladed knives and knives with blades that are 1/4" thick. I like the real tanto blades on Japanese swords/knives of this description, but on pocket knives I like a more practical blade style. I use my knife daily, for cutting bread, boxes, opening envelopes, cutting steak, etc. One thing I seldom use my knife for is piercing helicopter doors or cinderblock walls. Don't get me wrong, I like a nice door-piercing every now and then, but not every day. I find a tanto-style blade about as effective for whittling or normal cutting chores as a stanley chisel. The thick blades common on so many knives now make them about as useful a cutting tool as a rolling pin. They chop real well, but try cutting anything more meaningful than water and the thickness is a real hinderance.
Anyone who takes themselves to seriously. There's a difference between having honor and being touchy.
People with the offended/victimized mentality. A local town here in VT has had to stop having an opening prayer (a pretty non-descript, all-encompassing sort of thing) at their Town Meeting Day events because one individual (one, out of hundreds present) was offended. She felt victimized by the offensive request to have God bless the townspeople with wisdom in decision making, a spirit of unity and fair play, and general good fortune as related to business, weather, and whatever. She was sorely lacking in the first two categories, and apparently not open to having anyone, even a higher power, make up for her lack. Get a life. When one person dictates what the majority has to do, it's no longer democracy. Makes you want to cry, or laugh.
By the way, I think I smelled Chai on her breath.
People with seventy five guns that can't shoot well with any of them. Serves them right for hoarding guns just to "have" them. Reminds me of people with gourmet kitchens and several hundred bucks worth of pretty pots and pans hanging from pretty racks, who never cook. (they usually eat out so as not to dirty the pretty pans) Just plain sad.
$2,000 and up 1911's. Actually, $1,000 and up 1911's. I just recently watched two friends, one with a Kimber and one with a Dan Wesson, get trounced by a yokel with a Taurus in an accuracy and function competition. I'll take a bone-stock Colt over a boutique gun any day of the week.
RB to SB conversion grips that remind me of a glock grip. I really dislike round butt grips, but that doesn't mean I want a conversion grip the size of a beer bottle. If you ask me (and I know nobody is, or should be) RB N-frames are as appealing as decaf coffee with artificial sweetener and non-dairy creamer.
Magnumitis. Faster, louder, and higher pressure is not always necessary or even reasonable. Sorta like owning a Hemi truck with monster tires to drive to the office on the interstate every day. Fit the tool to the job. Sadly, that's becoming a vanishing art. Lotsa guys in my neck of the woods hunting whitetails in dense cover (30-40yard shots max) with 300winmags, shortmags, and assorted other flamethrowers when a 30-30 would be just as effective and much less expensive, painful, damaging to the meat, ...etc.
Muzzle loaders that look like something from Star-Wars.
AR15's with twenty pounds of tactical nonsense on them. Goes back to the Hemi Truck for suburban commuting.
10-22's with twenty pounds of tactical nonsense on them.
Anything with twenty pounds of tactical nonsense on it unless it's being carried by a SWAT team member on duty.
Flavored coffee. I know it's a little out of context, but coffee shouldn't require a twenty five syllable description to order. Coffee is a medical need, not an esoteric experience. I like my coffee to smell like coffee, not like a mixture of suntan lotion and "Hot Desert Nights" aroma therapy candles. Plus, that stuff is as sweet as Zarex straight-up. I'll lump Chai in with these coffee imposters, as too dainty for my liking. I worked with a fellow a few years ago, who wore Patouille oil and drank Chai tea every day. The combined odor was so nauseating I actually got in the habit of sticking two spent 45colt shell casings up my nostrils to mask the guy's foul scents. Not a pretty picture, but it worked well.
Tanto-bladed knives and knives with blades that are 1/4" thick. I like the real tanto blades on Japanese swords/knives of this description, but on pocket knives I like a more practical blade style. I use my knife daily, for cutting bread, boxes, opening envelopes, cutting steak, etc. One thing I seldom use my knife for is piercing helicopter doors or cinderblock walls. Don't get me wrong, I like a nice door-piercing every now and then, but not every day. I find a tanto-style blade about as effective for whittling or normal cutting chores as a stanley chisel. The thick blades common on so many knives now make them about as useful a cutting tool as a rolling pin. They chop real well, but try cutting anything more meaningful than water and the thickness is a real hinderance.
Anyone who takes themselves to seriously. There's a difference between having honor and being touchy.
People with the offended/victimized mentality. A local town here in VT has had to stop having an opening prayer (a pretty non-descript, all-encompassing sort of thing) at their Town Meeting Day events because one individual (one, out of hundreds present) was offended. She felt victimized by the offensive request to have God bless the townspeople with wisdom in decision making, a spirit of unity and fair play, and general good fortune as related to business, weather, and whatever. She was sorely lacking in the first two categories, and apparently not open to having anyone, even a higher power, make up for her lack. Get a life. When one person dictates what the majority has to do, it's no longer democracy. Makes you want to cry, or laugh.
By the way, I think I smelled Chai on her breath.
I really don't get pistol grip shotguns. Never fired one but seems like it would be not fun. Not to mention I can't imagine it being very accurate.
10 oz magnum snubs. Is a Model 60 really that heavy? Have fun with that hand grenade.
Plastic used a firearm building material is also out for me. Except for grips on a duty/carry gun. The plastic grips on my 5946 are pretty beat up, better them than wood.
No rail delete option. If I'm not going to use it why do I have to have it?
10 oz magnum snubs. Is a Model 60 really that heavy? Have fun with that hand grenade.
Plastic used a firearm building material is also out for me. Except for grips on a duty/carry gun. The plastic grips on my 5946 are pretty beat up, better them than wood.
No rail delete option. If I'm not going to use it why do I have to have it?
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