How many states require NO (ZERO) training to legally carry concealed?

[CowboyKen]

Now, with Mississippi a/o July 1st, that there are nine, or ten if we include Arkansas, states that have permitless carry, how many do not require any training for legal concealed carry?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

PA and GA do not have any training requirement for issuance of a permit. That makes at least 12 states. Any more?

Ken

 

[DD357]

No training in IN

 

[Ducky2002]

Include Alabama.


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[Dave]

Washington does not require training

 

[pharmer]

Pretty close to nothing in Florida today. 2 hour class, fire 3 shots in the trailer-done. 30 years ago was 4 hrs classroom-lunch-4 hours range time. Joe

 

[LWilson]

Arizona, also

 

[chek45]

Did you include Virginia ?

 

[Wingmaster]

Our right to keep and bear arms is not infringed in Wyoming.

Wingmaster

 

[Rigor Mortis]

Virginia may be by jurisdiction. I know I had to have certification that I had completed training to present to the local Sheriff for a criminal record check before the clerk of the court could issue the permit.

 

[CowboyKen]

The states without a permit required for concealed carry are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas[disputed], Idaho (effective July 1, 2016; residents only), Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Vermont, West Virginia (effective June 5, 2016)[5] and Wyoming.

Adding PA, GA, IN, AL and WA brings the total, so far, to fifteen. WOW!

Any more?

Ken

p.s.; Thanks to all of you who have responded and helped to satisfy my curiosity.

 

[Smoke]

I would want to know if there's a statistically significant difference in firearms related accident in states with strict training requirements as opposed to states without requirement

 

[CowboyKen]

I would want to know if there's a statistically significant difference in firearms related accident in states with strict training requirements as opposed to states without requirement

Well, with this list of states with no required training you should be able to start to do the work need to answer your question. Please let us know what you discover.

Ken

 

[Alk8944]

I don't understand the purpose to this discussion. Let me give you Utah as an example.

When Utah first started issuing Concealed Firearms Permits you had to demonstrate proficiency with the type gun you intended to carry, revolver or automatic. If you wanted to be able to carry both you had to qualify with both. The requirement over time was reduced to simply qualifying with something, then to no shooting requirement whatsoever. In my opinion this last is the most reasonable situation!

Think about this, what is more important, to be able to shoot well, or to know when and under what circumstances shooting is permissable? I don't think there is any question which is most important! Several states have obviously come to the same conclusion. The ability of most people, well trained included, goes to hell when confronted with an actual shooting situation anyway!

To answer the original question, I don't believe there are any states that have absolutely no training requirements! So far as I know every state requires some training in legal issues! I hope that is what you were really asking! Of course there are a few strictly "Constitutional Carry" states that obviously have no training requirement. It would make sense if they had a requirement for training in legal issues though!!!

Why have some states rescinded reciprocity with Utah? Simply because they still have a shooting requirement and Utah doesn't. Why should this make any difference?

 

[Muley Gil]

"To answer the original question, I don't believe there are any states that have absolutely no training requirements! So far as I know every state requires some training in legal issues!"

When I lived in Alabama, you filled out a CC permit application and turned it into the local sheriff's department. The SO did a background check and then issued the permit. No training was required.

 

[Ranger514]

Unless it's changed in the past year, no training prerequisite required in South Dakota for a 5-year cc license. Simply go to the local Sheriff, fill out a form, pay a $10 fee, and wait for the cc license to show up in the mail. As long as your record is clear, your laminated SD concealed carry license will be mailed to you within a couple of weeks. In the meantime, the SO will issue you a temporary paper permit. I love SD.

 

[Kanewpadle]

I don't understand the purpose to this discussion. Let me give you Utah as an example.

When Utah first started issuing Concealed Firearms Permits you had to demonstrate proficiency with the type gun you intended to carry, revolver or automatic. If you wanted to be able to carry both you had to qualify with both. The requirement over time was reduced to simply qualifying with something, then to no shooting requirement whatsoever. In my opinion this last is the most reasonable situation!

Think about this, what is more important, to be able to shoot well, or to know when and under what circumstances shooting is permissable? I don't think there is any question which is most important! Several states have obviously come to the same conclusion. The ability of most people, well trained included, goes to hell when confronted with an actual shooting situation anyway!

To answer the original question, I don't believe there are any states that have absolutely no training requirements! So far as I know every state requires some training in legal issues! I hope that is what you were really asking! Of course there are a few strictly "Constitutional Carry" states that obviously have no training requirement. It would make sense if they had a requirement for training in legal issues though!!!

Why have some states rescinded reciprocity with Utah? Simply because they still have a shooting requirement and Utah doesn't. Why should this make any difference?

Washington does have any such requirements. They do include a reference to the RCW when they issue your permit which states what you can or cannot do. We are not required to read it and many people don't.

 

[CowboyKen]

I don't understand the purpose to this discussion.

I was curious about the answer to my question. The purpose was to satisfy my curiosity.

Given your erroneous belief that all states have at least some training requirements I do understand your confusion.

Adding South Dakota to the list we are now up to sixteen states in which a person may legally carry concealed without having to have any training at all.

Ken

 

[Muss Muggins]

I don't understand the purpose to this discussion. Let me give you Utah as an example.

When Utah first started issuing Concealed Firearms Permits you had to demonstrate proficiency with the type gun you intended to carry, revolver or automatic. If you wanted to be able to carry both you had to qualify with both. The requirement over time was reduced to simply qualifying with something, then to no shooting requirement whatsoever. In my opinion this last is the most reasonable situation!

Think about this, what is more important, to be able to shoot well, or to know when and under what circumstances shooting is permissable? I don't think there is any question which is most important! Several states have obviously come to the same conclusion. The ability of most people, well trained included, goes to hell when confronted with an actual shooting situation anyway!

To answer the original question, I don't believe there are any states that have absolutely no training requirements! So far as I know every state requires some training in legal issues! I hope that is what you were really asking! Of course there are a few strictly "Constitutional Carry" states that obviously have no training requirement. It would make sense if they had a requirement for training in legal issues though!!!

Why have some states rescinded reciprocity with Utah? Simply because they still have a shooting requirement and Utah doesn't. Why should this make any difference?

Off the top of my head, Kansas and Vermont, and I'm sure there are others. You say in one sentence that every state requires training, then in the next that you know some have no requirement . . . Help a brutha' out . . .

 

[LenS]

Until 1998 MA had no training requirements. Based on my NR licenses and personal experience the following have absolutely no training requirements . . . VT, NH, ME (unless you opt to get a license, they now have modified Constitutional carry), and PA. RI requires a shooting test, but no training.

 

[CS45Fan]

No training, class etc required in PA. Once you get your permit, they hand you a pamphlet with some safety rules and do's and dont's.

However, I think anyone who plans to own or carry should take it upon themselves to get educated, know the rules and get some training - especially if you are new at it. It's a very big responsibility.

Short story - About 8 months ago woman gets a PA permit, buys a gun, keeps it in her car (never once shot it at the range) and drives back and forth into NJ for her job. Gets stopped tells cop in NJ she has gun and permit - goes straight to jail. Gov Christy pardons her. DUH! I wouldn't have. says right on permit (PENNSYLVANIA) - Pamphlet also says only valid in PENNSYLVANIA. Makes the rest of us look bad. You see the red flags right!?! She Never even once shot the gun for starters - probably doesn't know how it works and probably has no business carrying. This is what I mean about education, training blah blah blah!

Cheers!