How would you handle this situation?

Feral, I practiced this with my wife (she's 4'11 and I'm 6'3). She beat me silly with the training gun! Just kidding. Thanks for the extra details. Think I will get my brother to practice with me. My wife would think the whole exercise to be silly.

Take care.

Out
West
 
Overtraining in exercise is bad because it can cause injury but over training in preparation to use your weapon is extremely helpful because when you are in the moment of a physical threat you aren't going to be able to think straight so the action is automatic which doesn't require very much thinking. You do have the best chance of reacting effectively and the action is practiced. The fight or flight response to the stress of a physical threat can make it difficult to think, react, and respond effectively if your response isn't automatic.
 
I wanted to say a caution about showing your weapon to somebody. I know in the states I have lived in see it as a crime, unless there is a physical threat, and it is called "brandishing a weapon."
 
If one wants to practice hitting moving targets, there is something muchy more dififcult.

A rolling object will pretty much stay in the same path so it's possible to get a bead on it.

Instead, get a windy day and some small balloons. Fill them with air and tie the end off. Toss them on the ground and let the wind take them a few feet away. They will bounce, change directions and move in unusual ways. The more windy it is, the more fun you will have.
 
Armed Babysitter said:
Your scenario is flawed. My carry gun doesn't get "forgotten" at home.
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Many people do not forget their gun, they just do not take it on that trip.

Going to the corner store, run to the post office two blocks away or where ever, you will often leave the gun at home. I tick off many of those I put behind bars that would love to harm my beautiful body. I carry virtually all the time but there are times where I am only going to be gone for a few minutes and will leave it at home. It could be that on one of those trips is when I will run into one that I put away.

Nobody carries all the time.
 
M29since14 said:
This topic came up here not too long ago. I clicked this one thinking maybe I would see something new. :rolleyes:

I believe in the earlier thread a law enforcement guru of some sort came along with some pretty convincing numbers that when a punk proposes to take you elsewhere he generally plans to kill you. Since his advice and numbers agreed with my thinking, I liked his answer. :)

I believe Xfuzz has the "winnah."
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Hello,

You made a comment that the topic was brought up before but I was looking for this but couldn't find it. Could you please give me the previous discussion? Thank you.
 
If I forgot my concealed weapon, hopefully I remembered by Sabre spray and my collapsable baton. Either way, I will not go peacefully.
 
Supposing, just supposing that I had a chili powered brain fart and left my faithful sidekick at home, then I would fight the *** with everything I had. How many victims who were later found deceased got in the car and went somewhere with their murderer because they thought he would show mercy? Even the liberal "Don't struggle and give him what he wants" part of some in LE (those in front of the camera, the rest will tell you to fight until someone isn't breathing) will tell you not to get in the car with the guy.
 
Sadly, many of us do not have the luxury of being able to carry while on the job. My company forbids it and I drive a company F-150 to a number of remote sites. I am not even allowed to have pepper-spray. A couple of my telecom sites are in not-so-good areas and I wonder if I could hold the company liable if I am attacked and severely beaten as I am required to go into dangerous areas with no real means of protecting myself. (I KNOW the answer is probably "no" since I knew the company policy when I signed on)

However I DO carry a S&W tactical pen. Nothing against that in the employee handbook, and though I would much rather have my 642 in my pocket, it can be a pretty good means of getting someone's attention (and giving me a few precious moments of escape time).

I am reading up on the proper method(s) of employing the such a pen and in what situations it can be used. More importantly, as has been stated here, situational awareness is of utmost importance, especially when one is not able to carry. Even when I do carry pepper spray and I see some undesirables coming my way, I check the wind direction quickly and think out where I want to position myself in the even I have to use it. Getting a face full of C/S gas is the last thing you want when defending yourself.

I would NOT go anywhere with the BG, though. There is only one reason he would be taking me there (and its not to buy me dinner)
 
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I'd tell him the second location has to be a city owned park in Chattanooga. Since the city has made them a Gun Free Zone he couldn't take his.
 
Walking back to your car after exiting a courthouse or airport are two prime examples.
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Unless you happen to live in a state (like Washington) where you can be armed as you exit those places. I don't fly so the only time I am at the airport is in non-secure areas and I open carry there. Courthouse, here they have to have a lockbox for you to secure your weapon in. I like that, usually courthouses aren't in the upscale neighborhoods. ;)

bob
 
I didn't fully read all of the posts in this thread so forgive me if this has already been said.

I have some footage where the shooters(2) were using simunitions and the good guy (GG) tried to flee from a bad guy (BG) who already had his gun drawn. The BG was played by a championship shooter so he wasn't any slouch.

The BG was right handed so that was the hand holding the gun and every time the good guy fled to the BG's right the BG was able to hit him. When the GG fled to the BG's left things changed dramatically.

It seemed that the BG in this scenario was better able to index his shot at a moving target if he didn't have to do so by crossing his gun arm in front of, or across his body. In fact during one attempt the GG was not only able to flee without getting hit he was also able to draw his weapon and get a hit on the BG firing from behind nearby cover, in this case a building support pillar.

Because of this I plan, if at all possible, to flee left (my left) for a left handed BG and right (my right) for a rightie.
At least it's worth a try.......:cool:
 
oldman45 said:
Many people do not forget their gun, they just do not take it on that trip.

Going to the corner store, run to the post office two blocks away or where ever, you will often leave the gun at home. I tick off many of those I put behind bars that would love to harm my beautiful body. I carry virtually all the time but there are times where I am only going to be gone for a few minutes and will leave it at home. It could be that on one of those trips is when I will run into one that I put away.

Nobody carries all the time.
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ThirtyAcres said:
Amen.

Walking back to your car after exiting a courthouse or airport are two prime examples.
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Color me paranoid if you wish, but I don't leave my house unarmed. I too have put scumbags behind bars who would like to catch me unarmed and unprepared. When I leave the courthouse, I'm armed. I take it inside, secure it in the provided lockbox, and rearm upon leaving the courthouse. I also carry into the airport when picking up family and what not. It's perfectly legal here for any carry permit holder to do so in the unsecured areas, not just for LEO's.
 
I would base my actions on the totality of the circumstances as I found them at the time. Incidents like this are unique. God gave you the ability to reason. Use it. To "bench race" kidnapping and robbery scenarios on the internet and come up with a one-size fits all "solution" is what will get you killed. Do what you need to do at the time and under the circumstances. You won't know what that is until the time comes. If you can't think on your feet and have to rely on: "this is what you do every single time X happens", you probably shouldn't carry a gun.
 
my gun doesn't get "forgotten" but for arguments sake lets say it did. fists would fly, if im going down im going down fighting.
 
Ill contribute, Very easy to describe
Jekyll to Hyde, A wolf in sheeps clothing
 
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