DavidWJ
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Very lengthy thread. LEOs don't "knock down doors" in our county, they're smarter than that. If someone did try to forcibly enter our homes, they get what they deserve and our Sheriff supports us within limits.
How would you survive this scenario?
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Arik
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Never have and "dont" are two different things. They have not because there has been no reason to. Have some armed drug dealing psychopath and they won't be knocking. That's the whole point. Surprise!!
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Mulebuk Sam
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You don't and you won't, you are dead !
First mistake especially if you own your own home (which in that case you have no real excuse) was letting them get inside because you where to whatever to properly secure your door jams, windows etc.
Having a gun in the house should not even be your first consideration and perhaps not even in the top five considerations. Just another tool to protection and it should be the last resort.
Living in an apt. is another story because you are limited on what you are allowed to do and if you ask the landlord/lady permission you may spark suspicion towards you.
I'm in that position and my shack is virtually indefensible and I do live around and among lower income neighborhood.
Best alarm system is a dog and it doesn't even have to be viscous or big for that matter, just a barker and small dogs are great barkers and they will hear things way before they ever get to your door. Problem is I no longer have the energy to go through the stages of training.
So I'm getting me a cheap motion sensor alarm, just something to hopefully scare them away and if I'm sleeping awake me.
It's better than nothing.
But I'll tell you this right now, if I own this place you better believe I'd have it secure.
This thread is over 6 years old. And in 2016 they are now hitting rural America with these home invasions, once unheard out that way and where I'm at they are doing them with more than one person in most cases now.
They are even hitting the seniors in broad day light so it's no longer even just a night thing and it's getting more and more frequent as we have all read about.
If you are young family have a plan, the Mrs. runs the phone to 911 and keeps the children quiet, you are running the artillery but what ever you do be quiet, let them come to you. Do not announce anything, do not turn on any lights and do not go and investigate, let the cops handle it. You stay put ready for battle.
Your sarcasm receiver may need re-calibration or press reset button on back of unit.
Be that as it may, such a warning placard may conceivably carry some weight in a potential court proceeding??
It can be the magistrate who is to blame for approving a no knock warrant without thoroughly reviewing the affidavit supporting the search warrant and for not asking appropriate questions as to the description and location of premises to be searched (how it was verified by Affiant) and/or questioning the affiant as to the actual need for a no knock. Some terrible errors and negligence have occurred over the years.
(A) Your sarcasm receiver may need re-calibration or press reset button on back of unit.
(B) Be that as it may, such a warning placard may conceivably carry some weight in a potential court proceeding??
A: Completely serious. There are forum members who may now be sending you a PM to obtain a bulk rate on signs.
B: Not a chance . . .
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A. You are, I was not. B. Wrong. C. Might I suggest decaf?
Duly noted . . .
Rastoff
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Slow Sunday huh? Dragging up a 6 year old thread to argue about something that isn't going to happen?
I got a butt on the grill and hashbrown casserole in the oven, and Darlington is a night race . . . .
keith44spl
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This very thing happened recently to a young couple with a new born that we attend church with........
Wrong house, no knock warrant.....Department cover-up and law suit pending...
Just so happened the husband was in the shower at the time and didn't get to his firearm.
The couple was detained in their own home for over an hour, with their child screaming
it's lit'l head off before the Task Force realized they had screwed up big time from out dated and or erroneous intel.
Needless to say their high powered attorney will extract the full limit of the city's insurers liability coverage.
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I have been on no knock warrant raids and they are not necessary except in extreme instances.
I don't like em and would not do that kind of service now at all.
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How would you handle this scenario?
I don't rightly know....and don't want to think to awful hard about it.
It would be a no win kinda deal all the way around.
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My parents have lived in the same house for 27 years, smaller town of about 20,000. They've been hit twice with no knocks. First was a kid busted with a joint who pointed to my parents house when pressed on where he got it (he happened to be the mayors kid who didn't like my brother). During the raid my other brother was kept face down on his bed with a shotgun to his head for the entire raid. Second time was a wrong address, said the perp lived there previously (which couldn't have happened because my parents lived there years before he was born)...
cmort666
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Have they started the libel campaign against the victims yet? That seems to be SOP.
- No settlement.
- No mercy.
- No non-disclosure agreements.
NO SURVIVORS.
cmort666
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Example ? ? ?
Old TexMex
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Where I spend nearly half my time there aren't anything except no knock warrants. Often no one complains, because they don't survive the visit.
I'm grateful that here USA,(so far) it's usually a mistake, and rare.
I'm grateful that here USA,(so far) it's usually a mistake, and rare.
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cmort666
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- Kathryn Johnston
- Akai Gurley
- Michael Pleasance
- Carolina Obrycka
If you check out local online comment sections, there are often apparently organized libel campaigns.
It's usually the victim's "fault" in some way or another.
Of course as in the case of the Mayor of Berwyn Heights, MD, there are frequently "high fiveing" sessions after the fact.
In most of the cases I've seen, the INNOCENT victims are treated like garbage, as in the case of the Hmong family who's home was raided and left uninhabitable with CS gas. A bucket of cleaning supplies was left on their front doorstep. I imagine somebody thought that was "funny".
Ranger514
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The chances of law enforcement serving an unannouced warrant on my property for any cause, mistaken or otherwise, is one helluva long shot. I don' think I'll get wrapped around the axle worrying about it. Anyone shows up at our place is going to have to defeat an early warning system before they gain entry.
cmort666
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He asked, I answered.
