They have already had a ban on anything more then 10 rounds... its some lame law that they think will save lifes.. One question they have never answered.... When is they registration day for the criminals to come in and register their guns and clips? OH yeah.. criminals dont obey ANY LAWS!!! liberal idiots...
It's Happened Here In New York 01/15/13
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DigiRebel
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@Camster
Assault type rifle?
You mean a semi-automatic rifle right?
Saying an AR15 is an assault rifle is like saying I should be able to get free flights on Air Force 1 because I am in an Obama Costume, a president type person.
Also your Model 41 is a semi-auto assault type pistol... You might care when they move on to the next bite in their crusade to disarm the law abiding citizen.
Assault type rifle?
You mean a semi-automatic rifle right?
Saying an AR15 is an assault rifle is like saying I should be able to get free flights on Air Force 1 because I am in an Obama Costume, a president type person.
Also your Model 41 is a semi-auto assault type pistol... You might care when they move on to the next bite in their crusade to disarm the law abiding citizen.
Allen-frame
Member
We know this is not about keeping the general population safe.
It is about political power.
The registration of ammunition purchases is more disturbing than
any magazine capacity restriction.
Being a completely law abiding citizen of the United States of America,
a person should only be required to prove ones age to
purchase ammunition.
And why? would ANY government agency care if a person purchases
50 rounds or 500 rounds.
Will those making large purchases be tracked or singled out or
followed in case they should decide to go on a mass shooting ?
We do not expect our lives as shooting enthusiasts and revolver collectors
to become any easier any time soon as long as the current administrations
agenda is to control us, by whatever means possible.
We carry concealed every day, day in, day out, for one purpose
and one purpose only ; ' To protect innocent life.'
Here, with administrators permission, is a video link of a brave young
woman stating in plain English, just what the Second Amendment is
really for.
Please watch as you can.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1368468848936&set=vb.1148157360&type=2&theater
Regards,
Allen Frame
E mail in profile. keep up the good fight.
It is about political power.
The registration of ammunition purchases is more disturbing than
any magazine capacity restriction.
Being a completely law abiding citizen of the United States of America,
a person should only be required to prove ones age to
purchase ammunition.
And why? would ANY government agency care if a person purchases
50 rounds or 500 rounds.
Will those making large purchases be tracked or singled out or
followed in case they should decide to go on a mass shooting ?
We do not expect our lives as shooting enthusiasts and revolver collectors
to become any easier any time soon as long as the current administrations
agenda is to control us, by whatever means possible.
We carry concealed every day, day in, day out, for one purpose
and one purpose only ; ' To protect innocent life.'
Here, with administrators permission, is a video link of a brave young
woman stating in plain English, just what the Second Amendment is
really for.
Please watch as you can.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1368468848936&set=vb.1148157360&type=2&theater
Regards,
Allen Frame
E mail in profile. keep up the good fight.
A case in point is the difference in being in NYC or NY.A person with a sportsman license(as opposed to a carry license) may not carry anywhere,but if you attempt that like someone did recently in NYC,you'll get a seven year stretch.
Part of the problem here in NY is that we have a governor with presidential aspirations.He sees a problem in everything,and of course,he has to soapbox,and be the cure.
With superstorm Sandy,his rants with the power authority running out of poles and components,during a storm with unprecendented damage,were ludicrous.He's still chewing on that bone.
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old&slow
Member
I like what Ronnie Barrett said / did in California.
If:
All manufactures & suppliers refused to sell, repair or replace all firearms, magazines, & ammo to ALL the police and governement agencies in the state of NY.
All the firearms, magazine, ammo manufactoriers that are in NY Move out of the state.
All the people that want to be free and not live under communist rule move out of state.
No restriction ,, No registration ,, No compromise
If:
All manufactures & suppliers refused to sell, repair or replace all firearms, magazines, & ammo to ALL the police and governement agencies in the state of NY.
All the firearms, magazine, ammo manufactoriers that are in NY Move out of the state.
All the people that want to be free and not live under communist rule move out of state.
No restriction ,, No registration ,, No compromise
baccusboy
Member
And I want you all to REMEMBER that there are several future presidential candidates FROM THIS SAME AREA.
NEVER FORGET!
A Republican controlled congress in NY allowed this one to pass!
NEVER NEVER NEVER allow a politician from this area of the USA to hold presidential office. Defeat them in the primaries, before they can even run.
No matter what lies they tell you -- THEY WILL WANT YOUR GUNS.
On another note -- no way in HECK I'm going to vote for Chris Christie as a Republican candidate, either... absolutely cannot be trusted at all.
NEVER FORGET!
A Republican controlled congress in NY allowed this one to pass!
NEVER NEVER NEVER allow a politician from this area of the USA to hold presidential office. Defeat them in the primaries, before they can even run.
No matter what lies they tell you -- THEY WILL WANT YOUR GUNS.
On another note -- no way in HECK I'm going to vote for Chris Christie as a Republican candidate, either... absolutely cannot be trusted at all.
A quick clarification: in Texas (with a CHL), you may carry in any church that is not properly posted. You may only carry in schools with the permission of the school, which is very uncommon.
This is outrageous! My late father used to warn me about days like these that would come.....looks like he was right, looks like they are here!
Kadonny
Member
You really don't even need to do that. Just lock them in your safe and don't take them out. Unless you do something that allows law enforcement to search your home, no one will know you even have them.
PS. This law sucks, NY Legislature sucks.
Thankfully, I don't live in NY, and never will, but I am worried that their obscene restrictions will become a model for the feds and other states.
Can anyone who lives there tell me when the law becomes effective? Just curious.
Can anyone who lives there tell me when the law becomes effective? Just curious.
Rastoff
US Veteran
You are correct about the signs for churches, but as I read it, you can never carry in a school or at a place where a school function is happening.
I don't claim to be an expert, it's just what I read: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/texas.pdf
My whole point in bringing this up is awareness. ALL OF US should be looking closely at the actual laws in our respective states. There are plenty of places that have laws and the gun owners are not aware of them; they should be.
There is another state (I thought it was NC, but I'm not sure) where you have to get a certificate/coupon just to purchase a gun. You must purchase one certificate for each gun you want to buy. To get the certificate, you have to go to the sheriff. They are given out at the discretion of the issuing agency. As of right now, they are given out easily and freely. However, that could change at any moment and doesn't require an act of law. The sheriff could simply change his mind and you can no longer buy a gun.
Again, I'm not sure about the details and I'm sure some one will correct me. The point is, check your laws and know what's really there. Change is coming. Make it a good change.
squidsix
Member
Exactly the problem. This wort of thing doesn't bother you, because you aren't personally impacted by it.
YOU ARE WRONG.
If this were the first amendment being attacked, but they "only want to ban comic books" and you don't have any of those, do you really think yours aren't next?
I mean this in the most professional, polite way I can: You are a complete fool if you think NYS lawmakers don't want YOUR guns too.
tinbender
Member
It seems the governor of New York is using the tragedy at Sandyhook to launch himself into the public eye and set up a bid for president in 2016. It's disgusting to see politicians seize a moment like this and use it for shameless self promotion.
Comrad
Member
State by state gun laws are lie the old smoking section on a plane. One row you can smoke and the next one you can't as if the non smoking section couldn't smell it. Look out all neighboring states the Federales are a comin.
so I guess everyone in NY will now have their 1911's re-barreld to 50GI and their AR's changed to 450 or 50 Beawolf Bushmaster, a couple of bigger bullets are better than lots of small ones.
On the magazines, if NY does not have a constructive possesion clause, you can simply dissassemble them and keep them as "parts kits"
On the magazines, if NY does not have a constructive possesion clause, you can simply dissassemble them and keep them as "parts kits"
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squidsix
Member
Kurac,
You are correct about the constructive possession piece.
As for .50 centerfire rifles, they will be outlawed next, like Cali did.
You are correct about the constructive possession piece.
As for .50 centerfire rifles, they will be outlawed next, like Cali did.
This is completely ridiculous! I feel for all NY residents that have to deal with this. What is next? It will be interesting to see how far the Gov gets in the next presidential election.
So how would this affect 8 shot revolver owners?
So how would this affect 8 shot revolver owners?
SW_shooter
Member
I fear the NY law could be just the tip of the iceberg for new legislation against guns. Other states will look upon this as the opportunity to enact their own restrictive laws on gun owners. "Hey NY did it so we should too".
The anti-gun people seem to live in a world where logic is non-existent. It always makes me smile and cringe at the same time when I hear an anit-gun person speak about limiting magazine capacity or type of weapon that a person can own. They just don't want to acknowledge that anyone who wants to commit a crime isn't going to abide by laws governing what type of weapon is legal or the capicity of the magazine. Criminals and people who wish to do harm will use whatever they can to do wrong.
Anti-gun people live in a mind-set and state of denial. They have some dilusional thinking that criminals will voluntarily hand over 15 or 17 round magazines. I think they firmly believe that because its a law that everyone will comply.
The guns, magazines, and ammunition are all "out of the barn" and you can't make them disappear no matter how many laws you pass.
I met a guy and we became friends. He seemed like a really cool dude, we had a lot of interests in common. One day while heading to the range to punch holes in paper he confided in me that he was a thief and robbed homes. (I have no idea why he told me, maybe looking for absolution) We got into a discussion about the morals and legal issues. He stated that the laws and punishments possible were not a deterent, he never worried about the law he was breaking, only about owners who might be armed. Needless to say we are no longer friends and I havent seen him in a couple years, but whenever I hear stories like NY passing strickter laws I think back to how at least one crook wouldn't care.
The anti-gun people seem to live in a world where logic is non-existent. It always makes me smile and cringe at the same time when I hear an anit-gun person speak about limiting magazine capacity or type of weapon that a person can own. They just don't want to acknowledge that anyone who wants to commit a crime isn't going to abide by laws governing what type of weapon is legal or the capicity of the magazine. Criminals and people who wish to do harm will use whatever they can to do wrong.
Anti-gun people live in a mind-set and state of denial. They have some dilusional thinking that criminals will voluntarily hand over 15 or 17 round magazines. I think they firmly believe that because its a law that everyone will comply.
The guns, magazines, and ammunition are all "out of the barn" and you can't make them disappear no matter how many laws you pass.
I met a guy and we became friends. He seemed like a really cool dude, we had a lot of interests in common. One day while heading to the range to punch holes in paper he confided in me that he was a thief and robbed homes. (I have no idea why he told me, maybe looking for absolution) We got into a discussion about the morals and legal issues. He stated that the laws and punishments possible were not a deterent, he never worried about the law he was breaking, only about owners who might be armed. Needless to say we are no longer friends and I havent seen him in a couple years, but whenever I hear stories like NY passing strickter laws I think back to how at least one crook wouldn't care.
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