LEOSA: Qualifications and Covered Firearms

Unfortunately, LEOSA is an affirmative defense. Still good to be cautious when traveling in territory where politics are known to influence a cop's discretion.
 
In my case, should a MD officer decide to arrest or pursue charges, my first call will be to FLEOA, (Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association), which provides (limited) legal coverage for active and retired officers in such circumstances and will provide and arrange representation if required.

I also carry a copy of the LEOSA statute and regs in the glove box and ensure that I have all licensing documents regarding firearms and legal representation in my credential case.
 
Oh, please.

Kindly cite time/place/LE organization when noting these clearly bogus made up stories of 'I know a guy who is friends with a cousin of my pal' who said he was victim of an illegal action by a LEO in the Great State of Maryland...or any other state.

If carrying pursuant to LEOSA and arrested I will personally post bail and pay all court costs for the defendant.

Oh, yeah, I am quite certain tall tales are being related. :mad:

Be safe.

Steve K said:
I have heard horror stories about Maryland and the LEOs not respecting LEOSA. A few of my retired friends place their carry pieces in the trunk while travelling through Maryland for fear of being charged with unlawful carry by the State Police. I don't know of any LEOs being arrested or hassled in Maryland, but I know several have been given motor vehicles citation. You may say the law is the law and if you are in violation you will get a traffic summons. With that in mind, the law is the law, LEOSA is the law and if you are in compliance with the law there is no violation. Does anyone have first hand knowledge of the MD LEOs not honoring LEOSA?
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Well, I've finally got the wife to agree to escape the Peoples' Republic of California. I'm having a new house built in Buckeye, AZ, and can't wait for the end of February so I can get out of this Marxist experiment. I've told ya'll in the past about our Department requirement that we qualify with each gun we intend to carry. Looks like I'll soon be free from that, although I think that will soon be in the works in my Department. Anyway, on to the point, or I should say, question. What does the Arizona LEOSA qualification include? Also, who do you all recommend to qualify me when the time comes? Will I need to present anything else other than my valid Department ID card?
 
Thanks, blues7. That pretty much listed what I expected and clearly outlines the requirements. I believe I read it before, but was hoping for someone in the Phoenix area who has completed the process and has a recommendation for who to qualify through. I'm not there yet, but will be in late February and I'll need to get my initial qualification and application done, unless I want to drive for 8 hours back to my agency annually. I don't really think I'm going to miss the PRC enough to make that something to look forward to. Thanks again, great information.
 
Sorry I am late. U.S. Rep. Don Bacon, (who was re-elected) put forth a bill HR 6105. It allows "high Cap" Mags, National Park Carry, Carry on property open to public (Amtrak included), and allows Concealed Carry Instructors to be able to qualify retired LEOs. CCH Instructors will help me out. I went to my reserve office and asked about LEOSA, she said the Harris Co. Sheriff doesn't allow retired reserves to qualify for LEOSA. signed:stuck in TX.
 
It's interesting. As I read through these posts it is amazing how many different certifications are issued by various State, County or Local agencies, while the original federal LEOSA is non-specific. LEOSA basically state who in eligible to carry CCW under the provision and who is not and very little about the firearms, except machine or fully auto. I imagine that soon some of the more restrictive States will be imposing (trying) their own limiting regulations on LEOSA. (?)
 
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I am confused...

...by this statement. (in BOLD)
Dvan34 said:
... As I read through these posts it is amazing how many different certifications are issued by various State, County or Local agencies, while the original federal LEOSA is non-specific. LEOSA basically state who in eligible to carry CCW under the provision and who is not and very little about the firearms, except machine or fully auto. I imagine that soon some of the more restrictive States will be imposing (trying) their own limiting regulations on LEOSA. (?)
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Please elaborate.

Be safe.
 
Spg007 said:
Thank god i moved out of NJ when i retired. The NJ AG just released his version of leosa.
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FLEOA is going to take this issue on. The following is from an email I received from FLEOA which I have been a member of since 1983:

FLEOA Fights N.J.'s Illegal LEOSA Rules

The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) mandates that all active and retired law enforcement officers ("LEO's") be able to carry a concealed firearm anywhere in the United States subject to certain conditions, overriding most contrary state and local laws. See S. Rep. No. 108-29, at 4. The Act's purpose was two-fold - to protect active and retired officers and their families from "vindictive criminals," and to enable such officers to "respond immediately" to crimes spanning multiple jurisdictions. Id.; see also H.R. Rep. No. 108-560, at 4. The LEOSA provides that, "[n]otwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State or any political subdivision thereof," a "qualified law enforcement officer" or "qualified retired law enforcement officer" "may carry a concealed firearm that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce," so long as the individual also carries the requisite identification. 18 U.S.C. §§ 926B(a), 926C(a). The LEOSA preempts state firearm regulation. Contrary to the LEOSA, the New Jersey Attorney General in a recently issued "Guidance," reiterated its policy that requires a LEOSA qualified retired LEO, who permanently resides in New Jersey, to annually apply to the New Jersey State Superintendent of Police for a permit to carry a firearm, under onerous criteria, the issuance of which is wholly discretionary, not mandatory. See N.J.S.A. 2C:39-6(L), and Guidance recently issued by the New Jersey Attorney General.

New Jersey has historically attempted to find ways to limit LEOSA's application to New Jersey residents. This "Guidance" is directly contrary to LEOSA. Under LEOSA, states have a mandatory duty to recognize the right to carry that LEOSA establishes. Congress did not afford states the discretion to redefine either who are qualified law enforcement officers or who is eligible for the LEOSA right.

Attached is a letter which has been sent to the Attorney General of New Jersey noting FLEOA's objection to a recent "Guidance" issued by the Attorney General. We will await a reasonable period of time for a response. If necessary, Outside Counsel will take necessary and proper steps to remedy this objectionable conduct of New Jersey Public Officials.
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Here's a link to the letter from counsel to the NJ AG:

https://www.fleoa.org/downloads/LEOSA_letter_to_NJ_AG.pdf
 
Nj is really unbelievable. The NJ AG said leosa ONLY applies to out of state officers who travel into NJ. A retired leo living in NJ is not covered by that and must apply for a RPO card (retired police officer)
 
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Blues7: I just joined FLEOA a couple of months ago as a "retired" membership rate. Since retiring two years ago, I carry under LEOSA and selected NRA/retired LE/Lockton Risk insurance for any post shooting defense. Probably not the best, but at least something to fall back on should something happen. What do you think of FEDS insurance thru FLEOA ?
 
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Blues7: I just joined FLEOA a couple of months ago as a "retired" membership rate. Since retiring two years ago, I carry under LEOSA and selected NRA/retired LE/Lockton Risk insurance for any post shooting defense. Probably not the best, but at least something to fall back on should something happen. What do you think of FEDS insurance thru FLEOA ?
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I maintain my retired membership status with FLEOA as well.

Had a FEDS LEOSA policy for a couple of years and even had occasion to speak to them for guidance on carrying in NYC and NJ last year. (Magazine related in NYC, ammo related in NJ.)

That said, this year I let the policy lapse and decided to go with CCW Safe. For less money than the policy with FEDS, I get both criminal and civil protection in higher dollar amounts.

LEOSA related issues which are not covered by CCW Safe would be handled via FLEOA's legal coverage per the membership agreement. (At least through the early stages of any criminal proceeding, or dismissal of charges.)

For the record, FEDS is a separate entity from FLEOA though they have a close relationship and actually share the same address for certain administrative functions (like mailings and such).
 
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