Minor rant about cylinder terms

After reading the comments here, I believe I will try and use these terms in the future: front and rear face of the cylinder. However, I will continue to use chambers, not charge holes. :)

Hole just sounds "wrong" in so many ways.
 
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If you sharpen the edges, you could use them for Ninja stars.
 
Language is primarily functional. It also develops. Terms stick around if they serve the function.

New people I‘ve directed to the face of the cylinderfor a serial have found it if it was present. it‘s obviously functional.

Unfortunately terms also tend to stick around even when they're not functional and there lies the rub.

Not obviously functional: "... directed to the face of the cylinder for a serial have found it if it was present."

It was ONLY functional because the serial # WAS PRESENT. If it's not present the observer is no wiser as to which face you referred, front or rear. And if he finds no # the response here in this forum is very often "No # on either face."

Think this thru: Then when he tells someone to look for a serial # on the face of the cyl. and if the # is not found he might be asked, "Should it be on the front or the rear face?" What can be his only response? "I don't know."

Meanwhile Lee is pulling out his hair because all that excess text used up forum memory gigabytes needlessly. But likely not as much hair as he's already pulling out over my posts!
 
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Another one for me is “ Platform “

How the heck did that get started?
Probably came from the same people who popularized “ Operator “.
Sounds “ cooler “, I suppose.
What was wrong with the tried and true “ System “.

Careful, you might get de-platformed by the system operator.

And then you'd have egg on your face, no matter which way you're facing.

:)
 
I’ve got a friend who calls bullets [the lead or jacketed projectile not the entire thing] ‘bullet heads’. Don’t know where he got that from.

I cannot match the wit displayed in many of the posts on this thread. However, here is a fact: the term bullet heads in common here in South Africa. I had never heard it used in England before leaving there 39 years ago. It still grips me to hear it!

Peter
 
After reading the comments here, I believe I will try and use these terms in the future: front and rear face of the cylinder. However, I will continue to use chambers, not charge holes. :)

Careful there, my friend... or you will find the yoke is on you! You will find you’ve dug such a deep charge hole for yourself you’ll need a 6 cylinder crane hooked to your breeches or we may never see your face again!!! :eek:
 
Charge holes are bored straight of one diameter (think cap & ball and cartridges that use heeled bullets), while chambers are the next evolutionary step. They're for cartridges with more modern bullets that have a smaller diameter than their cases, and therefore use a chamber with a chamber throat of smaller diameter than the cartridge case.
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Now this is a distinction that makes perfectly good sense on a technical level. I had not heard it before today, and unfortunately I don’t think a lot of people are aware of it.

I just went through Bob Best’s study of the .38 DA Colts 1889 to 1908, to my knowledge the last major model line with bored-through charge holes/non-throated chambers ; Bob never once uses the term “charge hole”.

To remedy the general lack of photos in this thread, here is one I just took of my US Army Model 1901 to illustrate charge holes per Jim’s definition, a Hornady .38 Special round inserted from the wrong end:


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It doesn't annoy me enough to rant about it but in my simple world with my simple thought process ... the end of the cylinder closest to the front sight , the end from which the bullets leave , should be the front ... and thusly the end of the cylinder closest to the rear sight , the end from which the ammo is inserted , should be the rear...
But what do us simple minded people know ... it's not complicated to think like that ... and we all know simple thinking and common sense is a lost art !
Gary
 
You thought you were confused?

Not wanting to expose, to y'all any more of my ignorance I'm just waiting patiently for someone to "Declare" the right & wrong of it so I'll know what to cross off the vocabulary list when I'm asked for a presentation. May be just take hold of the revolver and point as you talk. Somebody help!...........
 
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"And then you'd have egg on your face, no matter which way you're facing"

Point of order - That would be YOKE on your face!
 
Title of another thread:
"1/2 OF THE CYLINDERS DRAGGING"
I wondered when I saw this how many cylinders he had? Notice also that the poster was yelling out his problem! They are among us. :rolleyes:

Froggie
 
Surprised no one has thrown this into the mix...
 

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