LOL nvm then!
Minor rant about cylinder terms
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LOL nvm then!
NONE of it matters............We All know what you mean.
About 15 years ago I spent many flight hours tracking migrating endangered species from Wisconsin to Florida in the fall , back north in the spring. Logged about 1,000 hours flying variety of single engine aircraft ...
I thought at the time I was collecting data on Whooping Cranes. I know now that they were Whooping Yokes the whole time.
All that work , for nothing.
I thought at the time I was collecting data on Whooping Cranes. I know now that they were Whooping Yokes the whole time.
All that work , for nothing.
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But you still got payed I'll bet.
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The use of "clip" for "magazine" is perfectly acceptable. Look it up.
Definition of clip (Entry 2 of 4)
1: any of various devices that grip, clasp, or hook
2: a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles
also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm
3: something (such as a piece of jewelry) that is worn as an ornament or fastener and that is held in position by a clip
Language is dynamic. It changes over time to reflect common usage. If enough people use "clip" for magazine the definitions will change. To those that argue otherwise I ask...why aren't you speaking Old English?
Acceptability is an opinion and does not relate to correctness.
The source you quote is too simpleton and generic, not authoritative, and therefore the greatest source of the confusion. Likely written by and/or for the lame stream media or readers that do not really care or want to know an accurate answer. The forum is no place for that.
You good with Remington’s opinion?
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I meet a lot of "rear faces" in my line of work.
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And because of that packaging, Remington went bankrupt.
There was also the slightly minor issue of being completely, and arrogantly, ignorant of your customer base.
Meaning Big Green became about nothing but the green.
Just saying.
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And because of that packaging, Remington went bankrupt.
Can we let Mossberg decide?
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Look it up. But I'm sure you can't be bothered. It's from Webster's. Maybe you don't recognize them as an authority but more people recognize them than the opinions of gun forum members.
But since you did not reply in Old English I can only assume you recognize that language changes over time.
Couple of points: the number of people agreeing on a point has noting to do with whether the point is valid or not;
Secondly, look at the audience. Dictionary entries reflect usage, not correctness. Any number of people with no knowledge of the subject may use terms incorrectly- in any subject matter.
Does that incorrect usage tend to clarify or obfuscate the subject? For example, I have guns that take magazines, and I have guns that take en bloc clips. Are they interchangeable? See?
Words have meanings- and incorrect usage makes those meanings useless. I see that everyday.
it's not the bother, it's the apples and oranges thing. I do think Websters is an authority and fine source; on language. But my point is, not a source for specialized firearms terms, that's all I'm trying to communicate.
We've come to recognize that not even gun manufacturers were scholarly and most of what we read is from their marketing depts. So not even they are "term" correct. And not all members come to this forum to be scholarly which is perfectly fine. As long as we know the difference. I will always share the most correct established info I'm aware of, I'm not always correct, and most of all I'm not the 'term police' nor wish to be.
Very well said.
“Majority is not always right." The fact that many people are in support of a wrong thing does not make the thing right. After all, the number of persons who with poor reasoning capacity is far higher than those with better reasoning capacity.
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We do, however, need to remind ourselves not to get too dogmatic about “correctness”. Most gun terms mean something else in the real (non-gun) world and have been imported and assigned a gun-related meaning by someone who was not an “authority”, just the first.
Take yoke and crane, two terms assigned by different companies to the same thing, which have very different non-gun meanings.
And then there is magazine. On the front counter of the school library where I worked some years back there was a basket with a sign “Old magazines”. I was always tempted to toss one of my surplus 1911 mags in there when nobody was watching and observe the resulting commotion when the librarian noticed it. I decided I needed the job too much to risk it
Take yoke and crane, two terms assigned by different companies to the same thing, which have very different non-gun meanings.
And then there is magazine. On the front counter of the school library where I worked some years back there was a basket with a sign “Old magazines”. I was always tempted to toss one of my surplus 1911 mags in there when nobody was watching and observe the resulting commotion when the librarian noticed it. I decided I needed the job too much to risk it
