Personal Defense Ammo

[Vinney47]

IMO you will have the best results with ammo intended for hunting deer, in something less than 70gr. These hunting rounds are designed for optimal penetration, expansion, and energy transfer for one shot kills on things with comparable weight ranges and internal organs as people.

 

[K1500]

Typically 77 is too heavy for a 1/9 barrel (at least for mine). Try the 55grain TSX load by Barnes or Federal. Stabilizes well, homogeneous construction, etc. etc. etc.

 

[Lost Lake]

Since my last topic was such a hit (not), I figured I'd ask about this one. Yes, I understand an AR-15 is not the best personal defense weapon, I don't really care what your opinion is on that matter whichever way it falls.

Well don't tell the military, police, FBI, or the CIA that!!!!


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[ARGH]

SHOT Show Media day 2012 Winchester PDX1 Rifle Self Defense Ammo 2 of 3 - YouTube

use winchester pdx 1 defender, 30 of these in the ar15. 2700 fps with only a 14.5" penetration, truely devestating.

whoever says ar15 is no good for home defense is just a forum warrior.

 

[oneyeopn]

ohbejuan...I use mine for protecting our poultry and can grab mine as easy as a pistol. I have tried a few different 75's and they didnt shoot very well out of my rifle but at super close distances that doesnt matter. I honestly dont have a problem with a MSR for home defense but I would stick to the 55gr myself. I have the PDX1 for my 1911 but use ballistic tips or hollow points in my Sport they have less penetration than the FMJ's in my experience. It is yours and use it as you see fit.

 

[lboh]

This is what is loaded in my home defense magazines

Hornadyle.com - 60 gr. TAP URBAN®

 

[jagerv01]

Although expensive the 62 grain Federal bonded round should function in your 1:9 twist barrel. Reliably feeds, good expansion and excellent penetration. Federal made a 55 grain bonded cartridge but I haven't been able to find those in a while. I bought a couple boxes of Winchester PDX 60 grain but haven't tried them and have not seen much data on penetration yet.

I would stay away from the TAP rounds for self defense.

I'm not sure if Federal uses their same 62 grain bullet in their fusion line as they do in their Tactical line. I did notice a discrepancy in the listed muzzle velocities. Maybe somebody can fill me in on that?

 

[Rider414]

This is a great thread.

 

[rojodiablo]

Well don't tell the (Deleted service), police, FBI, or the CIA that!!!!


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They do not use it for defense. They use it for intimidation.

 

[Vinney47]

They do not use it for defense. They use it for intimidation.

Well you know, the best defense is a good offense, intimidation and all

There are somethings that "make" a home defense weapon for me. Little things like lasers, night sights and the sound a pump action shot gun makes. You know, those intimidation factors.

Obviously if a laser dot on the chest and/or the scariest sound known to man don't mitigate a threat, having picked a smart ammo choice is going to help with anything and everything that comes after you pull the trigger.

In the case of ar-15's, however, Outside of maybe armor piercing rounds, just about any 5.56/.223 round is going to work. Wound channels and cavities might vary but the end result is going to be more or less the same.

I mean think about it - the ar-15 is in it's pure form an anti-personal weapon with even 55gr fmj's up to the task.