Please advise on second carry.

[thriftyarek888]

Hi

I am having big property over 800 acres in Colorado area. My first carry arm is 1911 s&w. But second one I am considering to be S&w 460v.

Will that be ok? thanks

Arek

 

[Hoogs]

I own a 460 XVR... If you want it dead it's hard to go past... Muzzle blast is extreme and intimating at first, however it is a gentle giant to shoot (single hand 200gr pills)... Suppose it depends on what your target is... If the 460 can't do it, not too many handguns will

 

[Iggy]

Whatcha raisin' down there, Dinosaurs?

 

[cornfed83]

While the 460 will take any game in North America having 2 full size carry guns on hand might be a little excessive. Have you considered carrying a nice .44 instead as it will nicely take care of all critters 4 legged or 2 should the need arise, and would save you the hassle of carrying 2 guns. On the other hand if the second gun will be riding in a truck or atv maybe a rifle or shotgun is the way to go for the second piece.

 

[jglsprings]

If you are managing 800 acres you need a rifle in the truck. I'm not sure what you think you are going to run into down here but, a black bear is about as "dangerous" as it gets.

 

[panamajack310]

Here is my 2 cents. If I carry in the woods I usually carry a .44 magnum. BUT.....after some research I have found that the Alaska state troopers carry 10mm's. They do this because this round can take down a grizzly bear. That said I would look into the 10mm..you can cary 9 rounds in a S&W gen 3. or 15 in a piece of combat tupperware (GLOCK)

If you are currently carrying a 1911 I would say get a 10mm 1911, made by Colt or Kimber. This way you do not have to change holsters and ammo carriers...

 

[jspick]

Let's see here. In Colorado, rural property. If in the mountains I would carry a 629 in 44 mag. Not as much recoil and muzzle blast as 460. If you need more power than a 44 mag. get a rifle.

If on the plains, your 45 will do just fine. BUT if you want a reason to get a 460 then go get one, no one says you can't YET!

If you are in western Colorado I do know there are the occasional grizzly there, but highly unlikely you would run into one. Whatever you get be sure you can shoot it well and are not afraid of it. You are better off with a gun you can shoot than a gun you can not shot because of recoil or muzzle blast.

John

 

[thriftyarek888]

Thanks. 460v takes care of any animal but it will also be a good gun for any armed hostiles. 460 bullet might not go through a bullet proof vest but will drop down any man due to the force. I also want to arm my self well against possible human intruders. 1911 45 ACP is good but 460v goes a little further in terms of stopping power.

 

[Homie]

If you run into a griz in CO., capture it- it will be better than hitting the Lotto!
Good shooting.

 

[opr1945]

"If you run into a griz in CO., capture it"

Being from back east I am curious as to how one goes about that?

Thanks

 

[ogilvyspecial]

"If you run into a griz in CO., capture it"

Being from back east I am curious as to how one goes about that?

Thanks

There are plenty of Bear threads around here.

I'm sure one has to cover the technique..

 

[ben1]

My suggestion is a chest carry for a model 29 and a Marlin 44 rifle. That combination is hard to beat and can be loaded with a number of loads that will cover the bases.

 

[cornfed83]

Thanks. 460v takes care of any animal but it will also be a good gun for any armed hostiles. 460 bullet might not go through a bullet proof vest but will drop down any man due to the force. I also want to arm my self well against possible human intruders. 1911 45 ACP is good but 460v goes a little further in terms of stopping power.

If you are worried about armed hostiles then I would definitely grab a rifle. 5.56 will defeat most soft armors but if you went with a .308 it will defeat most soft or reinforced armors as well as be an acceptable round for large or dangerous game animals.

In my opinion the 460 is not a gun that I would want for a gunfight, it is a manstopping round but its not particularly quick to get back on target, it does not reload quickly, and it only has a 5 round capacity.

If I were you I would find a .308 to keep in my truck, something magazine fed with an intermediate range scope. I'm not trying to discourage you from getting a 460 but for what you seem to be describing although it would be "enough" gun it simply is not the right gun.

 

[Warren Sear]

If you are worried about armed hostiles then I would definitely grab a rifle. 5.56 will defeat most soft armors but if you went with a .308 it will defeat most soft or reinforced armors as well as be an acceptable round for large or dangerous game animals.

In my opinion the 460 is not a gun that I would want for a gunfight, it is a manstopping round but its not particularly quick to get back on target, it does not reload quickly, and it only has a 5 round capacity.

If I were you I would find a .308 to keep in my truck, something magazine fed with an intermediate range scope. I'm not trying to discourage you from getting a 460 but for what you seem to be describing although it would be "enough" gun it simply is not the right gun.

I agree with this. Carrying a rifle makes a whole lot more sense than carrying two handguns. I would feel much more comfortable with a rifle in .308 Win than ANY handgun.

 

[tag73]

Someone mentioned 10mm/40S&W for an Alaskan outdoors gun? I just can't believe that would be an effective caliber for a hungry grizzly. 44 Mag has been the handgun answer since it came out. Maybe a hole magazine worth of 40S&W. If that's the case then, having to dish out multiple hits, then you're dealing with a VERY stressful situation. You want a 1 hit wonder up there. I've been to Alaska a few times and the preferred load then (2004) was the 44 mag being most common, 454 Casull, and the S&W500 was newer but very prevalent up there. Last time up my uncle was carrying a 629 Power Port with a 300gr load. That was his everyday outdoors gun. For him it went everywhere. He also carried a 1911 and said he'd put his life on that. You really appreciate that firepower when you're trying to fly-fish a couple hundred feet from grizzly. From what I've heard, read & seen on TV the new wild frontier guns are the 500 and 460 but the 44 is still the most common. I know if I had to go trekking where that nut case Timothy Tredwell and his girlfriend were killed... I'd be doing it with a 460S&W with a few boxes of ammo... maybe a 629 for an ankle gun LoL

 

[Cocked & Locked]

Hi

I am having big property over 800 acres in Colorado area. My first carry arm is 1911 s&w. But second one I am considering to be S&w 460v.

Will that be ok? thanks

Arek

Whatever you decide will be OK with me, Just thought I'd let you know.

 

[jspick]

If you run into a griz in CO., capture it- it will be better than hitting the Lotto!
Good shooting.

You capture it! Not me! In 1983 a guide in SW Colo. was attacked by a griz. I have seen griz tracks myself in NW Colo. No mistake on that.
There is "offical" evidence of griz in Colo. I live in MT now and deal with griz when they aren't hibernating! No I will not try to capture you one, but you can come and get one anytime you want!

Back to the OP---Get a AR-10, I think it will work the best for you, like others have said.

John

 

[STCM(SW)]

A rifle should always be the main weapon when trouble is expected.

 

[jglsprings]

A rifle should always be the main weapon when trouble is expected.

What he said. And besides, you can drive around with a rifle in the back window of your truck and no one would think a thing about it.

A 460 strapped to your hip will draw more attention than you can imagine. Especially in rural Colorado. No one thinks of guns other than tools out there.

 

[terrier]

Was born, raised and still live in Colorado. My .357 Blackhawk will do anything I need to do except hunt elk and it would do in a pinch. my .308 Marlin XS7 is all the rifle I need but I travel with a beat up old 30-30 Win.