school shooting solution

It's not a gun problem. We have too many people with behavioral issues.

Road rage, for example, is evidence of a behavior issue.

The way people treat each other on social media is a behavior issue.

. . . I can't go on without breaking rules, so I'll just say even if we banned all guns, we still have an overwhelming behavior issue.
 
Puller said:
It's not a gun problem. We have too many people with behavioral issues.

Road rage, for example, is evidence of a behavior issue.

The way people treat each other on social media is a behavior issue.

. . . I can't go on without breaking rules, so I'll just say even if we banned all guns, we still have an overwhelming behavior issue.
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Murder happened long before guns were invented, they are NOT the problem.
I'd like to see insane asylums being used again. When those were all over at least in my state, there were far fewer mass killings.
 
I suppose schools are like our research department....

SweetMK said:
Local schools have been posting pics on social media of
the "NEW THIS YEAR STAFF",,

Included is typically an armed uniformed officer,,

Without fail, every one of the armed individuals is in the 300 pound+ category,,,,,

WOW!!

99% of the remaining staff are females,, and 90%+ are "HEAVY",,

I guess it is the new world,,,:confused:
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All of the pipefitters, electricians etc. that were assigned to our department had some disability. I suppose the officers that are donut addicts get assigned to schools.

My boss would call for a service person and say, "Whoever comes has to be able to get up on the roof, so don't send 'Old Joe'. Here comes old Joe down the road. "I can't climb up on that roof, I've only got one arm."
 
CalifEd said:
From what I have read, the FBI was notified but turned the investigation over to the local authorities.

The Jackson County, Georgia Sheriffs' did a F2F with the kid and his father and investigated the Discord account, a social media platform that caused the alert, but they did not find enough to charge anybody.

The father said his two hunting rifles were "locked away" and "[Colt] does not have unfettered access to them."

The news report I read seemed to indicated that the local investigator did a pretty thorough investigation with both the F2F and Internet search. However, if dad was not as diligent as he indicated, he needs to be in the cell next to his son.
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From what I read he already has been charged. He apparently bought the kid a new gun after all of the investigations. Some folks just will not admit their kids are crazy.
 
I'd say that qualifies as "complacency"? If I had a son that nuts at home, I'd be giving away my guns.
 
A common problem with many parents these days...they think the solution to their kids' problems is to become their friend...give them presents and hope the problem goes away... and they ignore the responsibility and hard work of being a parent. If they were parents first and foremost, the friend part will come later after the kid grows and develops into a responsible adult.
 
My BIL lost all his guns when my SIL's attorney filed papers with the court knowingly and falsely accusing him of domestic abuse. 'Just a standard thing we do to better our position' was his explanation. If this type of thing flies, why didn't that family lose their guns after the threats against schools last year? With all the electronic investigative doo-dahs available to LEOs today, you'd think they could have come up with enough proof for that even if not for an indictment.
 
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When teachers login in the morning they should have a dedicated one channel radio with tracker issued to them. In an emergency, they can have communication with law enforcement immediately. Where to go, what to do, etc.
 
This as well as most of this country's problems are a SOCIETAL problem. Sadly our society has gone down hill since the 60's. Parents do not parent much any more, they let kids see what they want online and do not care about the results. Most people never fo to church or have any idea our nation was founded on the belief in God. Sure many here will jump on this post but how about reading the writings of our founding Fathers? Guessing many will not care as " its not online". There are guidelines for a decent life but again most could care less. Just remember what the 10 Commandments say. Personal " special importance" has taken the place of family and community so this is what we have. Ben Franklin wrote about how to many people living crowed up in big cities would do, look it up if inclined. The majority of people under 65 were not brought up around guns being taught by Veteran fathers or uncles on safety, care, hunting, target shooting and safe storage. nuf sed.
 
taz666 said:
When teachers login in the morning they should have a dedicated one channel radio with tracker issued to them. In an emergency, they can have communication with law enforcement immediately. Where to go, what to do, etc.
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I'm told that school had the Centegix ID card system and they used it.

The teacher's ID card has a duress button that notifies the SRO and the SO of an active shooter and the exact location.

New panic alarm system at Georgia H.S. saved lives during shooting, officials say. Advocates want it nationwide.


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I'd venture that a not insignificant number of schools could figure out a way to get by without an Assistant Deputy Vice Principal to fund a couple of SRO positions.
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When I was a student, back in the 1950's primarily, the overwhelming percentage of school employees were the teachers. Schools had a few janitorial staff, a few lunchroom staff, likely a single librarian and a Principal (and maybe an assistant Principal in the larger schools). Nowadays the teachers are likely less than 50% of the total school workforce. There are specialists in everything, and all sorts of administrative positions that I'm sure we could live without. Compare the staffing of public schools with that of private schools to clearly see the excesses which cost taxpayers a fortune. With a bit of cutting back on the extraneous staff, schools should easily be able to come up with funding for security officers. Adding the right of teachers to be armed (but not forced to be armed) would significantly reduce the likelihood of more school shootings.
 
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All of our school district schools (Not Houston ISD) including small neighborhood schools for kindergartners through third grade have deputies on site all day. We canine units are added in some of our large high schools intermittently to find drugs. A high school just to the south of our district had a bullied loner shooting a few years ago, No LEO's on site. I hope they have changed. It is a different world then when we brought our 22 rifles to school; and put them in the coat room to shoot after and away from school. The likely prospect of immediately facing an armed opponent seems to at least give some would be shooters some pause. I do not know what happened in Georgia, but pray for all victims .
 
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When I was a student, back in the 1950's primarily, the overwhelming percentage of school employees were the teachers. Schools had a few janitorial staff, a few lunchroom staff, likely a single librarian and a Principal (and maybe an assistant Principal in the larger schools). Nowadays the teachers are likely less than 50% of the total school workforce. There are specialists in everything, and all sorts of administrative positions that I'm sure we could live without. Compare the staffing of public schools with that of private schools to clearly see the excesses which cost taxpayers a fortune. With a bit of cutting back on the extraneous staff, schools should easily be able to come up with funding for security officers. Adding the right of teachers to be armed (but not forced to be armed) would significantly reduce the likelihood of more school shootings.
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I have been helping out a local forensic services agency doing hiring background investigations. During such an investigation we went to the local school board office to check the school records of the applicant. There were three very large buildings completely filled with "staff." NONE of these "staff" people have any direct interaction with students. None teach. With a signed, notarized, release I had to deal with three separate bureaucrats (two in the building and one "downtown" wherever that is) to look at a record. I was told that to see any potential disciplinary records I had to go to another office as these records could not be kept with the general school records. The first person I dealt with acted as if I had ruined her day of sitting at her desk doing nothing. I found out that they don't actually keep records. They are digitized (by an outside vendor, costing more money) and have to be accessed via computer.

My point is that there are tens of millions of dollars spent on "staff" in just this one county (with outrageous property taxes) that contribute nothing to education save putting roadblocks in front of teachers and the citizens wanting to give kids an education. The worst thing is that there is zero chance of this changing, other than putting more "staff" in these offices (and leasing another building).

The ones screaming the most about the "problems" are the ones who created them by destroying the mental health system and replacing it with "feelings."
 
A Parish near me built a new High School . My son , a Deputy in that Parish was in line to be an SRO at that school when it opened . The Sheriff decided that they were understaffed and could not spare anyone so he decided to have a " roving " SRO . The school just opened so time will tell if that idea works . I'm not confident that it will .
 
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