This week I plan to buy my Sigma 40. I'm buying it at Cabelas for #357.00. Though I've seen some of you have purchased yours at a better price. So I ask, in your opinions, is $357.00 a good price? It's the best I've been able to find in the Omaha and Lincoln, NE area.
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cshoff
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I would call it an "average" price. Certainly not spectacular, but not too bad either.
I thought I heard that S&W was coming back out with the $50 mail in rebate on Sigma's?
If that's the case I would love to take advantage of that offer.
I considered the Taurus Millenium Pro SS because Cabelas has them on sale for $359.00, but I like the look and feel of the Sigma Besides eveything I've read on the two, the Sigma just seems like the better of the two guns.
When I go to Cabelas this week, I'll about the mail in rebate.
TDR911
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he Sigma series is reliable at a good price. As with any better quality weapon there are always a few issues . Many can be attributed to outside influences such as ammo, damaged mags, dirt, etc. Very few are true 100% failures. Besides S&W seems to be very good at customer service.
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I have to agree with DB , the SW40VE or the Sigma in any caliber is the best buy that I have seen lately. A lot of people hate the trigger pull but I have no problems with mine and so far it is 100% reliable !
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cabelas is expensive on everything,, go to academy,, i got my 40ve on sale there for 299, their regular price is 339 which is still cheaper than cabelas
clint_lnl
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the price is what sold me at 1st, and after 600 rounds it working perfectly. thinking about getting and sw9ve next
Now that I have the gun, I'm looking for a holster for it. What do you recommend I get? I'm looking for a concealed carry belt holster. It should be open topped (not thumb break), high riding and canted, and preferably with snap belt loops. I'd consider either a plain scabbard or pancake. Can someone recommend a particular make and model?
cshoff
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I carry my Sigma every day in a KHOLSTER. It is the most comfortable IWB I have ever used, hands down. I can easily wear it from the time I get up, until I retire it on the night stand in the evening. If you decide you want one, and you use this code when you order: 335093, you will get 10% off of your purchase.
See you all have moved on to holster from starting with the gun itself, just wanted to say I got one about a month ago and love it, for concealed, especially when hiking I found a fanny pak/butt bag on ebay UTG is the brand name, not sure what it stands for but love it, no one knows you have it, the little velcro holster that came with it is for a smaller gun, but, just secure the sigma with the velcro straps and off ya go. the pockets are big enough for 2 extra mags also. It only cost about 16 bucks.
Pasifikawv
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I just purchased a Sigma Series SW40VE. I took it to the range yesterday and found that when the sights are aligned on bull, the rounds are striking approximately 10” to 14” low at a distance of merely 10 yards. Baffled that such inaccuracy and blatant defect is not the quality folks have come to know and expect from Smith & Wesson, I asked my NRA Cert. Instructor to take the 40VE out for a spin. His findings were the same and siad "something must be done about that!"
With sights aligned on bull at a distance of approximately 10 yards, the rounds completely miss the paper when using a slow fire target. Rounds are consistently striking 10”-14” below point of aim when both I and the LE Instructor fire the pistol. We even switched up ammo to see if that made any difference. We used stable mount/grip and eliminarted trigger pull as a possible culprit.
In order for one to come anywhere close to grouping rounds near bull, one must raise the front sight complete above the sight window. Doing so makes lateral aim nearly impossible. It is not feasible that one can be expect to aim a firearm with the front sight elevated above the sight window. This defect is not acceptable. A firearm that cannot be aimed is not very useful.
While I am generally pleased with the overall material and the action of the 40VE as indicative of Smith & Wesson quality, the glaring defect with the sights simply cannot stand. Though some complain about the SW40VE trigger, I found it no more heavy than a typical double action. It just requires a steady squeeze.
Has anyone else experienced a similar problem with the sights on this model? Is this a problem that Smith & Wesson has discovered on other SW40VE models and has a recall been issued? Does anyone have experience with Smith & Wesson regarding repair, replacement or refund?
FYI: The NRA LE Instructor and I also fired 2 Glocks, a Beretta, and a double-action Bersa on the same outing. We both kept good groups around bull at 3-7-10-15 yards - except with the SW40VE.
With sights aligned on bull at a distance of approximately 10 yards, the rounds completely miss the paper when using a slow fire target. Rounds are consistently striking 10”-14” below point of aim when both I and the LE Instructor fire the pistol. We even switched up ammo to see if that made any difference. We used stable mount/grip and eliminarted trigger pull as a possible culprit.
In order for one to come anywhere close to grouping rounds near bull, one must raise the front sight complete above the sight window. Doing so makes lateral aim nearly impossible. It is not feasible that one can be expect to aim a firearm with the front sight elevated above the sight window. This defect is not acceptable. A firearm that cannot be aimed is not very useful.
While I am generally pleased with the overall material and the action of the 40VE as indicative of Smith & Wesson quality, the glaring defect with the sights simply cannot stand. Though some complain about the SW40VE trigger, I found it no more heavy than a typical double action. It just requires a steady squeeze.
Has anyone else experienced a similar problem with the sights on this model? Is this a problem that Smith & Wesson has discovered on other SW40VE models and has a recall been issued? Does anyone have experience with Smith & Wesson regarding repair, replacement or refund?
FYI: The NRA LE Instructor and I also fired 2 Glocks, a Beretta, and a double-action Bersa on the same outing. We both kept good groups around bull at 3-7-10-15 yards - except with the SW40VE.
Yes, I have experienced the same problem and I can, with near absolute certainty, tell you that it's your fault (and I mean this in the least snotty way possible!)
I had exactly the same problem with my 9mm. Here's what I discovered: As you've experienced, the Sigma has a pretty heavy pull - by design. It is easy as all get-out to, just before the trigger breaks, dip the barrel just a bit. Trust me, it's true - I didn't believe it until I went to the range and put the pistol in a bench rest and fired off a few rounds. Each shot went straight and true. Then I very slowly (and I mean veeerrrrryyyy slowly) pulled the trigger with the pad of my finger, almost at the end of my finger, and had no dip.
I tried quickly picking the gun up from the bench and doing a double tap. 10" low. I essentially had to teach myself how to shoot the gun correctly. I found that a square grip (I'm not sure how to describe it...shoulders square to the target, both arms equally extended, off hand thumb slightly ahead of strong hand thumb) provided the most stable platform. A weaver-type grip was the worst for me.
Try that out - do just what I did. I think that you'll be surprised.
I had exactly the same problem with my 9mm. Here's what I discovered: As you've experienced, the Sigma has a pretty heavy pull - by design. It is easy as all get-out to, just before the trigger breaks, dip the barrel just a bit. Trust me, it's true - I didn't believe it until I went to the range and put the pistol in a bench rest and fired off a few rounds. Each shot went straight and true. Then I very slowly (and I mean veeerrrrryyyy slowly) pulled the trigger with the pad of my finger, almost at the end of my finger, and had no dip.
I tried quickly picking the gun up from the bench and doing a double tap. 10" low. I essentially had to teach myself how to shoot the gun correctly. I found that a square grip (I'm not sure how to describe it...shoulders square to the target, both arms equally extended, off hand thumb slightly ahead of strong hand thumb) provided the most stable platform. A weaver-type grip was the worst for me.
Try that out - do just what I did. I think that you'll be surprised.
Pasifikawv
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Thanks for the reply and it wasn't snotty at all! In fact that was my very first conclusion.
I knew the SW40VE had a pretty heavy trigger when I bought it and thought for sure I was just screwin' it up. I also have revolvers and DA/SA pistols and am accustomed to a heavy pull. I tried everything in my technique to not pull, but failed to get off any accurate shots.
That's when I called in my local NRA LE Firearms Instructor to test the SW40VE. I told him about the heavy trigger and that I thought it was my fault, but just couldn't seem to correct it with all the concentration in the world. Time and again I tried proper technique and trigger squeeze and didn't have any luck.
When it happened with the NRA LE Instructor, he also tried to eleminate any pull when shooting. My NRA LE Instructor even switched up ammo to see if that made any difference. That’s when he decided to use a stable mount and eliminated trigger pull as the most likely culprit. At that point, I was advised to seek service.
The SW40VE was sent yesterday to a S&W gunsmith for further diagnosis. If my NRA LE Instructor couldn't get it to hit close to bull with a stable mount target test, it made sense to at least get it looked at.
PS: The stance you were trying to name is most often called the "combat" stance. When I did my latest qualification, the weaver stance was prohibitied and only the combat stance was permitted for the qualification for my DCJS Firearm endorsement. While I am fairly comfortable with either, I still prefer the weaver. It was the stance I learned as I was growing up. Tac training now tends to focusing more on the combat stance as it allows for faster lateral movement and transitioning to firing on the move if a bad guy starts firing back. Conversely, the weaver offers less of your own body as target mass for the bad guy to shoot at.
Competitive shooters typically prefer the weaver stance for accuracy whereas LE/Mil/Sec shooters just want to take a taget out and get to cover as quickly as possible if the stuff hits the fan. I have also heard the combat stance called the "triangle stance" because your arms and shoulders form a triangle as do your legs to the ground.
I knew the SW40VE had a pretty heavy trigger when I bought it and thought for sure I was just screwin' it up. I also have revolvers and DA/SA pistols and am accustomed to a heavy pull. I tried everything in my technique to not pull, but failed to get off any accurate shots.
That's when I called in my local NRA LE Firearms Instructor to test the SW40VE. I told him about the heavy trigger and that I thought it was my fault, but just couldn't seem to correct it with all the concentration in the world. Time and again I tried proper technique and trigger squeeze and didn't have any luck.
When it happened with the NRA LE Instructor, he also tried to eleminate any pull when shooting. My NRA LE Instructor even switched up ammo to see if that made any difference. That’s when he decided to use a stable mount and eliminated trigger pull as the most likely culprit. At that point, I was advised to seek service.
The SW40VE was sent yesterday to a S&W gunsmith for further diagnosis. If my NRA LE Instructor couldn't get it to hit close to bull with a stable mount target test, it made sense to at least get it looked at.
PS: The stance you were trying to name is most often called the "combat" stance. When I did my latest qualification, the weaver stance was prohibitied and only the combat stance was permitted for the qualification for my DCJS Firearm endorsement. While I am fairly comfortable with either, I still prefer the weaver. It was the stance I learned as I was growing up. Tac training now tends to focusing more on the combat stance as it allows for faster lateral movement and transitioning to firing on the move if a bad guy starts firing back. Conversely, the weaver offers less of your own body as target mass for the bad guy to shoot at.
Competitive shooters typically prefer the weaver stance for accuracy whereas LE/Mil/Sec shooters just want to take a taget out and get to cover as quickly as possible if the stuff hits the fan. I have also heard the combat stance called the "triangle stance" because your arms and shoulders form a triangle as do your legs to the ground.
