I was with the 509th Airborne in Italy at the time. Once we were stood down from our alert to jump in and seize an airfield for you guys, we ended up prepping most of our wartime contingency resupply pallets so the Air Force could drop them to the Egyptian Third Army which the Israelis had cut off and surrounded in the Sinai. Just one of many times folks should have asked themselves the question "Do we really want to take on the Israelis?"
WAR DECLARED in Israel
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I was with the 509th Airborne in Italy at the time. Once we were stood down from our alert to jump in and seize an airfield for you guys, we ended up prepping most of our wartime contingency resupply pallets so the Air Force could drop them to the Egyptian Third Army which the Israelis had cut off and surrounded in the Sinai. Just one of many times folks should have asked themselves the question "Do we really want to take on the Israelis?"
I hope it works out well. My thinking is that Hamas is going to get hammered and I hope it does not bring others into the conflict. While Israel has been a good ally we need to remember that to them Israel comes first so we should be careful accepting all they say on face value. I still remember the USS Liberty
fiasconva
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Israelis have never conservative in their responses to situations like this. The response and retribution could be more massive than we've ever seen this time.
The Last Standing Knight
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^^^^This on the button.
It is my understanding that Isreal has formally declared war in this. If so, I cannot remember when a nation actually declared war not just give war a fancy name.
This is the result of a feud that goes back to the dawn of history and will never be resolved until one side exterminates the other. I often wonder if they even know what they are fighting about anymore except just to fight. Especially since Israel's foes never seem to gain significant victories yet still come back for more each time.
I'm not predicting anything here except an Israeli victory and a lot of revenge. In short, the usual for that part of the world.
What LoboGunLeather said.
I agree with the smoking hole theory. If you were surrounded by hostiles how would you respond? I can't believe that the best intelligence force in the world had no idea 2k - 5k rockets were being moved into position.
I hope it is not the fuse to the big bang we all worry about.
I hope it is not the fuse to the big bang we all worry about.
Ghost Magnum
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I believe this topic can be discussed without going into US politics or commentary on US politicians.
We are prepared to prove the point.
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This morning there are reports of hundreds/thousands of muslim extremists streaming along the border of Israel/Palestine. Dozens of Israel civilians and soldiers have been shot dead/killed.
Please pray for Israel and for the swift retribution against these attackers.
God bless,
Glenn
A friend showed me the video of the poor Israeli woman being dragged around in the streets. It’s terrible
I attended a meeting today with a few Command Sargent Majors, First Sargents, and Officers.
Towards the end of the meeting the subject turned to Israel.
Cant be specific but no things are not good.
Towards the end of the meeting the subject turned to Israel.
Cant be specific but no things are not good.
smoothshooter
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But haven’t we recently sent most of our missiles, 155mm artillery shells, and small arms ammunition to Ukraine?
smoothshooter
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More than once in the past the US has stopped Israel from eliminating the problem.
Sistema1927
US Veteran
Praying for the peace of Jerusalem and a speedy end to this conflict.
HOUSTON RICK
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Not being there, I am not sure why the Palestinians want to incur more revenge from Israel which is usually dealt out tenfold. Are they trying to provoke an attack to make more of their people victims and create more antipathy against Israel? Even with allies, they cannot be contemplating victory in a conventional military sense. Maybe it is just "time" to vent some frustration?
venomballistics
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That was my first thought. I think Bibi now has an excuse to make the west bank a smoking hole.
The whole truth quite often never comes out.
Yep ... these pages of history are written by the winners
I have seen more footage today of the war in Israel than I have seen of that other war all year.
What I find remarkable, is with this constant level of danger faced by the Israeli population, private firearm ownership is quite restrictive. There was a YouTube video a few years ago talking about same. I'll see if I can find it. Given the IDF's failure to protect these borders and settlements, at least their civilians should be allowed the opportunity to defend themselves.
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Glenn R. McMannly
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Reports of suicide kamikaze planes now.
God help Israel!
God help Israel!
My best friend has lived there for 40 years. No doubt, his two sons will be called up.
My friend was a captain when he served. That qualifies him to own a handgun, but he is too fearful that his young granddaughters could access it.
Gun ownership is very restrictive there, for two reasons. Israel has its own radicals who might get trigger happy, and the bigger fear being that guns could fall into the hands of terrorists. An example of that, is the punishment given a soldier who loses his rifle. Five years mandatory jail time.
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. If that's true and the Israeli government knew and did nothing, the excuse comes at the expense/sacrifice of their own citizens. It sucks to be them, I guess.
I agree with you about the whole truth never coming out, but some of it will come out and it play out like it's played out before.The whole truth quite often never comes out.
It'll play out like this:
The government will put out an official narrative/talking points or outright propaganda, and the news media will unquestionably parrot.
Anybody who questions the narrative will be called a "conspiracy theorist", accused of spreading mis/disinformation. Then if that doesn't work, they'll be censored/canceled.
We've seen this very scenario play out with events we can't talk about on this forum.
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LVSteve
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Both sides in the other war have relearned some hard lessons about journalist access and their own OPSEC. Information is precious, having Twitter etc coughing up what you know for all to see is not good practice for any military, so bolt down the edges on information. If that causes wailing and gnashing of teeth by the media, so be it.
