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I Don't Get It, Revolver VS Semi Auto Pistols?
I keep seeing more and more videos from young to middle aged people doing gun reviews on Youtube and they all start off the same. They flat out say they have never owned a revolver and know nothing about them and so on. Then proceed with the evaluation to their semi auto's which is usually good.
I am 67 years old my revolvers are my babies that I admire, my semi pistols are just tools that I never get excited about.
Just look at the forums here, the revolver forums have twice the views of pistols. What am I missing. Seems most people today think a revolver is a relic. Kind of ticks me off. Rant over.
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I keep seeing more and more videos from young to middle aged people doing gun reviews on Youtube and they all start off the same. They flat out say they have never owned a revolver and know nothing about them and so on. Then proceed with the evaluation to their semi auto's which is usually good.
I am 67 years old my revolvers are my babies that I admire, my semi pistols are just tools that I never get excited about.
Just look at the forums here, the revolver forums have twice the views of pistols. What am I missing. Seems most people today think a revolver is a relic. Kind of ticks me off. Rant over.
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When it comes to YouTube gun material, much of it isn't worth watching. Like watching "The View" on TV; good way to lower your IQ without trying very hard. There's an abundance of alleged gun maestros on YouTube.
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...I am 67 years old my revolvers are my babies that I admire, my semi pistols are just tools that I never get excited about...
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I'm 71, primarily a revolver guy, but I do have some classic semi-auto rimfires, two Colt Woodsman from the 30s and an early 60s S&W M41 that I think beautiful.
I guess I love classics of both flavors.
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Revolvers are indeed "relics" of sorts....just like most of us. Both will eventually disappear.
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They each have their role. When the young folks get older they will find the joys of revolvers albeit maybe polymer revolvers, and they will perpetuate revolvers.
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I'll take the relics and the 70's S&W revolvers for the pure pleasure of seeing, handling and shooting the classic firearms. If I want to shoot a Glock or an AR-15, I'll grab my G19 and a Colt M4 and have at it. It's all pure pleasure to me, and I've never been interested in using these firearms for any purpose other than to punch paper, hunt and defend my family if the need should ever arise. Why would any government or anyone want to take that right away from me?
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I shot rimfire bowling pins 2 weeks ago... you should have seen the eyeballs when I parked my semi and pulled out my 617.. they kinda giggled a little... then I cleared the table and dropped the stop plate... no red dot or optic.. no need for a reload... giggling stopped... I am only 56.. but grew up with my father shooting IPSC with a model 66..
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Sssshhhh! Be quiet.
As long as the young whipper-snappers are ignorant, they won't be competing with us for the classic revolvers that are on our wish list.
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So many airheads(other word). Show me a guy with a Model 10, who knows how to use it.
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I keep seeing more and more videos from young to middle aged people doing gun reviews on Youtube and they all start off the same. They flat out say they have never owned a revolver and know nothing about them and so on. Then proceed with the evaluation to their semi auto's which is usually good.
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I see a few things here:
1) What does the OP mean by "...and so on." Do these youtubers run down revolvers at this point? If so, that would get my eyes rolling, too.
2) If they are not trashing revolvers, why are the youtubers even mentioning revolvers? Are they filling time, or do they just suffer from verbal diarrhea.
3) If all these people are saying is that they don't own a revolver and have no interest in getting one, then who cares? If they do a reasonable review of the semi, then my visit isn't wasted, and any other comment is superfluous twaddle that I will ignore.
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"Superfluous Twaddle".
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maybe revolvers will become the stick shifts of the handgun world?
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I haven't counted lately, but probably own slightly more revolvers than semi autos. While there are always debates about the revolver being obsolete, for many they are still justifiable for EDC. If you carried a revolver for your LE job and that is what you are used to, comfortable with and shoot really well, then you might be better off with it than a Semi Auto pistol. That is what I did for 40 years.
I switched to a Sig P365 4 years ago for many reasons. More than twice the ammo capacity, better sights, more accurate at distance, night sights, significantly lighter and smaller package, and last but not least, way less recoil with better performing carry ammo. That said, some are just not comfortable carrying a striker fired auto with a round in the chamber - I get that.
Just because I switched doesn't mean it is right for everyone and there is nothing more inherently safer and more reliable than a revolver IMO. The key is practice if you are relegating yourself to 5-6 rounds. While 5 may have been enough many years back, with the threat of multi member gangs today, I was no longer comfortable with only 5 rounds in the gun. Plus as I get older, it is just way faster and easier for me to reload a magazine than bullets in a cylinder. As we age, revolver reload practice is much more important!
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I'm 71, primarily a revolver guy, but I do have some classic semi-auto rimfires, two Colt Woodsman from the 30s and an early 60s S&W M41 that I think beautiful.
I guess I love classics of both flavors.
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I like all kinds of guns. I'd like to have an example of every action there is. (Except for the 6mm Navy Lee straight pull)
That's why I have several revolvers, semi pistols, carbines, rifles, bolt, semi, lever action....
If it has been shot, I want one.
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I still remember a time where revolvers cost less than semi-auto pistols, so my handgun collection and experience started with revolvers. Today, revolvers are generally more expensive than pistols, thanks to the popularity of the semi-auto pistol and the advent of easy and cheap to make polymer receivers.
These wet behind the ears kids on YouTube have only known the cheap plastic pistol era, so to them, revolvers are antique relics of a very distant and poorly understood past.
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So many airheads(other word). Show me a guy with a Model 10, who knows how to use it.
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Agreed!!!!! I once watched a YouTube genius review a model 13 & 65. He said it was lacking as a home defense gun because it did not have adjustable sights. I messaged him and said there was never a finer self defense gun built. Powerful cartridge, no adjustable sights to get knocked off, very concealable K frame. I went on to tell him there’s a reason so many PDs issued them. Including the FBI……… His reply was. Thanks for watching.
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An example of where we are these days. Saw a You Tube vid a while back. The cop made a traffic stop and disarmed the driver of her J Frame. The officer picked the rounds out of the cylinder with a fingernail, had no clue about the ejector rod.
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I have a Model 66 4 inch and a Model 19-3 with 6 inch BBL. They regularly make it to the range and on the nightstand. Something to be said for point and pull trigger.
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I have some autos that I really like and carry, but I guess I really love revolvers. I just can’t get excited about any of these new guns(circa post 1960). Just my opinion. If you like them, more power to you.
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If you need as much power as you can get in a handgun, there's no alternative to revolvers. They will outlive us all.
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Some guns stir ones soul and others dont , that's ok. I prefer "tool " guns for serious use because they are replaceable. Glocks are a prime example of that .I will always have them available and respect them for what they are and do well,but I dont love them like a wood and metal gun .
Great thing about America is we have options and dont have to all love or like the same thing. Mission drives the gear and there is never anything wrong with having guns that we enjoy and make us happy .
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Far too many base the weapons they carry on movies & tv. They fantasize about being the guy in the movie facing insurmountable odds...a 5 or 6 shot revolver, don't think so! I'm not John Wick, but I can place those 5 or 6 rounds out of a revolver precisely where I want them to be.
I mostly carry a Glock 19 as a main weapon, but 80% of the time I have a 642 in my pocket as a BUG.
If I only have a revolver with me I absolutely do not feel underarmed.
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An example of where we are these days. Saw a You Tube vid a while back. The cop made a traffic stop and disarmed the driver of her J Frame. The officer picked the rounds out of the cylinder with a fingernail, had no clue about the ejector rod.
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That is very sad to hear.
So, todays LE does not carry a back up gun?
Maybe this office had a partner, along side?
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I'm definitely a revolver guy, but I do love a good Colt automatic from the high polish/nitre blue era of the teens.
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maybe revolvers will become the stick shifts of the handgun world?
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Tomorrow I will be heading to the club in my stickshift pickup to shoot a few revolvers. Yep. Really.
I like revolvers, I like semi autos. I even have a few plastic pistols.  They're all worth having to one degree or another. My tastes change over time, so what's really interesting today will be overcome by something else. Then I'll switch back again.
I don't really care what the Youtubers say today. They may well come around in the future. This sport has room for all of us, even those who are "rong."
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An example of where we are these days. Saw a You Tube vid a while back. The cop made a traffic stop and disarmed the driver of her J Frame. The officer picked the rounds out of the cylinder with a fingernail, had no clue about the ejector rod.
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I watch COPS a lot and am stunned when they take a handgun from a suspect or a car and attempt clearing the weapon...truly cringeworthy...
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Owner of a LGS I do business with has recently been parting with his fine colection of older Smiths. Asked him why.
"Right now there is a market of well off retirees willing to pay top doller for a fine older revolver. When their gone, who will be the buyers when 99% of my current new handgun sales are semi-autos?"
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That is very sad to hear.
So, todays LE does not carry a back up gun?
Maybe this office had a partner, along side?
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They'll probably have a BUG, either a Kahr or a Ruger LCP of some vintage.
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I am 67 years old my revolvers are my babies that I admire, my semi pistols are just tools that I never get excited about.
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Well said, and reflects my own view exactly.
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I'm 71, primarily a revolver guy, but I do have some classic semi-auto rimfires, two Colt Woodsman from the 30s and an early 60s S&W M41 that I think beautiful.
I guess I love classics of both flavors.
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I'm between you and AC Man (69) and I do have a couple of semiauto's that I cherish as much as my revolvers. A 1903 Colt Model M and a S&W M41. The rest are like AC Man says, tools, albeit fun tools.
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Revolvers are indeed "relics" of sorts....just like most of us. Both will eventually and sadly disappear.
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My guns will all outlive me and I hope be preserved and cared for to pass on to my descendants, but I'll be ashes long before my grandkids can appreciate them.
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Many valid perspectives here. Personally, I tend to be proficient with both revolvers and semi-autos; however, I also try to be pragmatic.
I am disabled and can't run, so I have to make a stand if I ever feel endangered enough to draw a sidearm in defense. Considering how society has changed in the past 5 years or so, I fear that a revolver (while reliable and dependable) may not provide adequate firepower if it's needed. I also know that if I have to employ a sidearm defensively, chances are that I may never see it again. Honestly, I'd rather lose a less expensive polymer semi-auto rather than a steel semi-auto or a fine revolver.
Also, with ever increasing arthritis and other issues, it is extremely easier to reload a bottom feeder than a revolver. Plus, looking at the levity, it can be safe to say that most of the street predators can count to 5 or 6, but they might just lose count or be clueless when facing a semi-auto when it comes to how many rounds that they are facing!
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Revolvers are indeed "relics" of sorts....just like most of us. Both will eventually and sadly disappear.
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Guns for thought.....
After we old revolver geezers are gone, some Gen-Z youngster is going to break away from their peers and have a field day at a S&WCA symposium with multiple tables of revolvers amongst a sea of polymer semi-autos.
They'll win first place for Historical Display.
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I just turned 54 last month. So I’m squarely in the middle probably on the forum. My attraction to revolvers started very early because my dad was a S&W fan. He owned one 4” taper barrel model 10. I still have it today. I like old stuff. I like mechanical things. I’ve been told I have an old sole. I go trap shooting and I’m the guy with the Model 12. I like restoring old outboard motors. Old axes and hatchets. Old canoes. Things that speak to me. Revolvers speak very loudly to me.
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I did a revolver channel called Revolver Dude but as an educator I was advised not to post videos of me shooting my revolvers because it's not a gun friendly community and my day job pays more than YouTube would have.
The reality is most people in their teens to 40 (I'm almost 35) use autoloaders. They grew up playing video games where revolvers weren't options or there was one of them. A lot of young people want the guns they see in the movie, or anime, or video game they played, which are more often than not an autoloader.
While some YouTubers are annoying, there are still some great ones like Paul Harrell and Hickock45 who give revolvers more love. Just have to look to find them.
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My first handgun was a 28-2. I traded that in 71 for a new Browning HP, which I still have. That gun is beautiful, and I do love it. Beyond that, I have a couple Colt 1911's for nostalgia, and a SIG P220. However, my revolvers are my pride and joy, and I would no doubt opt for a revolver any given day over a semi- auto. Nothing like the big hole in the end of a 4" N frame.
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I did a revolver channel called Revolver Dude but as an educator I was advised not to post videos of me shooting my revolvers because it's not a gun friendly community and my day job pays more than YouTube would have.
The reality is most people in their teens to 40 (I'm almost 35) use autoloaders. They grew up playing video games where revolvers weren't options or there was one of them. A lot of young people want the guns they see in the movie, or anime, or video game they played, which are more often than not an autoloader.
While some YouTubers are annoying, there are still some great ones like Paul Harrell and Hickock45 who give revolvers more love. Just have to look to find them.
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It’s not so much the auto loader. It’s the polymer construction. I have a Ruger MKII, S&W 41, 1911, Baby Browning Beretta Tomcat etc…. Steel construction just has character that polymer doesn’t
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Semi autos are sweet but there is just something about revolvers.
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It’s not so much the auto loader. It’s the polymer construction. I have a Ruger MKII, S&W 41, 1911, Baby Browning Beretta Tomcat etc…. Steel construction just has character that polymer doesn’t
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We agree on that, I only had one polymer gun (SIG P365) and traded it for that reason among others. I am not a big polymer guy either.
My point is that the younger generation has seen these polymer guns in the media they are exposed to, so it's not surprising that's what they gravitate to. I'm a history teacher so I like older guns, but most people my age don't and I get it.
I think it's sort of why single action revolvers are popular with people who grew up with John Wayne and cowboy shows/movies. Those were the cool 😎 guns they saw on the screen. For this generation that would be the Glock/SIG/H&K plastic fantastics. Same concept in a different era.
The younger crowd wants to be John Wick, not John Wayne.
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We agree on that, I only had one polymer gun (SIG P365) and traded it for that reason among others. I am not a big polymer guy either.
My point is that the younger generation has seen these polymer guns in the media they are exposed to, so it's not surprising that's what they gravitate to. I'm a history teacher so I like older guns, but most people my age don't and I get it.
I think it's sort of why single action revolvers are popular with people who grew up with John Wayne and cowboy shows/movies. Those were the cool 😎 guns they saw on the screen. For this generation that would be the Glock/SIG/H&K plastic fantastics. Same concept in a different era.
The younger crowd wants to be John Wick, not John Wayne.
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I've got several "rooster shooters" OM Vaquero's, Uberti's, Colt SAA, all are in 45LC and all sport 4 3/4" BBLS, the sole exception is my Uberti Outlaw sporting a 5.5" bbl.
BaBa, I too love all steel auto's, mostly 1911's or BHP's mostly the Varient produced by Kareen, the Mark III with a built in beavertail as the standard BHP kills me with hammer bite.
Might I suggest you give these three a try, I'm not a big polymer fan but I absolutely LOVE these:
1. M&P Shield 9mm
2. M&P Shield 40 S&W
3. M&P Shield 45
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I, too, have a definite affection for my revolvers...all steel frame S&W snubs in J and K.
While I haven't yet warmed up to the polymer guns, I might breakdown and consider the P365 at some point.
In the meantime, I do find myself carrying my Kimber Ultra Carry (Series I) with 7+1 more often than before...something about that big .45ACP hole in the barrel.....
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N Frame and New Service revolvers and 1911s, do they make anything else? Haven’t noticed if they do though a couple Vaqueros have snuck into my safe. Preferably .45something caliber.
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Had to change from a revolver to a semi. I would still carry the revolver off duty but, then along came the CSX. Still like a wheel gun but, damn it is comfortable carrying the CSX in plain clothes.
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Just remembered the other point I wanted to make. I think most people that have carried a revolver are more judicious with our shooting. Today, it seems like every Officer Involved Shoot that occurs, they are unloading everything they have at the suspect(s). I almost think that in the academy, they need to start with a revolver and then train on a semi-auto. Maybe if more agencies go to red dots the # of round thrown down range will go down.
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I've got several "rooster shooters" OM Vaquero's, Uberti's, Colt SAA, all are in 45LC and all sport 4 3/4" BBLS, the sole exception is my Uberti Outlaw sporting a 5.5" bbl.
BaBa, I too love all steel auto's, mostly 1911's or BHP's mostly the Varient produced by Kareen, the Mark III with a built in beavertail as the standard BHP kills me with hammer bite.
Might I suggest you give these three a try, I'm not a big polymer fan but I absolutely LOVE these:
1. M&P Shield 9mm
2. M&P Shield 40 S&W
3. M&P Shield 45
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I really would love to try any of those. I'll shoot just about anything to try it out but my LGS and range don't rent them. I would absolutely be thrilled to get a chance to shoot a shield in any caliber as an S&W fan
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How many pistol uses understand the need to "slap and rack" to clear a misfeed? Revolver can simply try again.
For self-defense, if six (seven or eight) rounds don't stop an attack, I'm not convinced twelve (seventeen or twenty-one) would improve the situation.
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It's an "all semi-auto firearms, all the time" world with the current generation. And, I've been called narrow minded for not jumping on that narrow minded bandwagon!
They're the ones who are missing out on gratifying shooting experiences.
To think that I though we were suggestible in the "Dirty Harry" era. This crowd really is suggestible!
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It’s not so much the auto loader. It’s the polymer construction. I have a Ruger MKII, S&W 41, 1911, Baby Browning Beretta Tomcat etc…. Steel construction just has character that polymer doesn’t
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You have to try a polymer gun that's a bit out there like a Grand Power or a Strike One. They have character all of their own.
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