My 2022 Nissan Frontier does not have it. But the "owner's manual" has to be 500 pages. 300 pages of "how to safely install child car seats" and the other 200 is an index of the 1st 300. Absolutely no useful information. Joe
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*%#@ Auto Start Stop
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It's supposed to be a fuel saving feature with the equipped vehicles having a beefed up improved starting system to compensate. Yeah right! First thing we turn off as soon as we start the car.
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They work great
I'll keep My 2003 4Runner thank You.
Hoo Boy!
Bought a new car a month ago. I do not believe we stand a chance of ever having a "good" car market ever again. Buying a new car never makes economic sense, but why, oh why did I have to make so many compromises?
Auto stop start,
112 mph governor,
fiber glass transverse rear leaf spring,
2.0 liter 4 cylinder with mild hybrid/electric super charger/turbo charger,
No Dip Stick (!),
always "connected",
sun roof standard,
Sino-Swedish,
it's cost!
I am still in the honeymoon period, but I have to say I have never owned a better car. It was purchased to be a long distance, comfortable, dog hauler. I have had a long and friendly relationship with my dealer's service department. They told me that a V90 had been added to their loaner fleet and I should buy it once it completed it's service period. I went to the Finance Manager and told him I would buy it, please give me some numbers. They dragged their feet a little because the purchase was in the future. Well, there must have been blood in the water by the end of June. They called me on Friday 6/28 and asked if I would come in to buy on Saturday 6/29, no car sales on Sunday in Colorado. End of the month panic anyone? Or at least a desire on their part to move the unit. It had 1000mi. on it as a loaner, I asked that it be CPO'd (4 years 7 months unlimited mile warranty) and for a Polestar tune (it does a lot in my opinion to make the car drive well, including allowing for the defeat of Auto Stop Start). They actually produced an OTD number I said yes to.
The pictures are from day one of ownership. The Boys went to the dealer, spent time signing all their paperwork and stopped at a trail on the way home. They like it!
Bought a new car a month ago. I do not believe we stand a chance of ever having a "good" car market ever again. Buying a new car never makes economic sense, but why, oh why did I have to make so many compromises?
Auto stop start,
112 mph governor,
fiber glass transverse rear leaf spring,
2.0 liter 4 cylinder with mild hybrid/electric super charger/turbo charger,
No Dip Stick (!),
always "connected",
sun roof standard,
Sino-Swedish,
it's cost!
I am still in the honeymoon period, but I have to say I have never owned a better car. It was purchased to be a long distance, comfortable, dog hauler. I have had a long and friendly relationship with my dealer's service department. They told me that a V90 had been added to their loaner fleet and I should buy it once it completed it's service period. I went to the Finance Manager and told him I would buy it, please give me some numbers. They dragged their feet a little because the purchase was in the future. Well, there must have been blood in the water by the end of June. They called me on Friday 6/28 and asked if I would come in to buy on Saturday 6/29, no car sales on Sunday in Colorado. End of the month panic anyone? Or at least a desire on their part to move the unit. It had 1000mi. on it as a loaner, I asked that it be CPO'd (4 years 7 months unlimited mile warranty) and for a Polestar tune (it does a lot in my opinion to make the car drive well, including allowing for the defeat of Auto Stop Start). They actually produced an OTD number I said yes to.
The pictures are from day one of ownership. The Boys went to the dealer, spent time signing all their paperwork and stopped at a trail on the way home. They like it!
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Interesting article here from Edmund's on stop/start systems...good, objective information.
Not surprisingly, the engineering that goes into these things is impressive, and far more complex than I think most of us realize.
And yeah, there is a measurable fuel savings...
https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews... who pause briefly at,had a stop-start system.
Not surprisingly, the engineering that goes into these things is impressive, and far more complex than I think most of us realize.
And yeah, there is a measurable fuel savings...
https://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews... who pause briefly at,had a stop-start system.
Ever been next to one when it “restarts”? Mini quake.
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First of all, it's moronic to think it saves fuel. At the same time the old lady that can't stand a cold seat is able to do a remote start and warm her car up in the driveway for 15 minutes. How much fuel does that waste? If the govt truly want to save the planet they should eliminate that option as well.
Secondly, what's the big deal. It can be overridden with a simple push of a switch.
Even if you have an older car that does not have the delete switch, some simple foot pedal activity with your brake foot will fool it to deactivate at every stoplight.
Secondly, what's the big deal. It can be overridden with a simple push of a switch.
Even if you have an older car that does not have the delete switch, some simple foot pedal activity with your brake foot will fool it to deactivate at every stoplight.
Our 2023 KIA Sorento has the auto stop feature with the disable button ( which I now automatically press every time I fire it up).
Those morons at Road & Track Magazine and the Society of Automotive Engineers seem to think it does...but what do they know?
Automatic Start-Stop Tech Saves More Fuel Than You Think
Auto Stop-Start Fuel Consumption Benefits
That's right! We here at the giant government-climate people-control complex care nothing about what you want or think. When we control the administrative and congressional branches of the nation we will bend free markets and free will to our big giant brains!
Everyone will have to drive affordable Chinese EV's whether they want to or not ... oh wait, that's a different problem.
Everyone will have to drive affordable Chinese EV's whether they want to or not ... oh wait, that's a different problem.
Ματθιας;142042045 said:
The key word in your comment above is "potential"...
In my misspent youth, I was owned by a series of British sports cars. (You don't own the car; it owns you.) I had three MG Midgets over the years; an Austin Healey 3000; a Triumph TR4A and a GT6; and a Sunbeam Alpine. All were stone-axe simple compared to today's machines. (On the Midgets, in order to get heat, you had to turn a faucet on the back of the engine to allow coolant to flow into the heater core.) I used to wrench those cars myself, and still have the tools I used to do it with.
Today, I have two German cars and a German motorcycle. I can change the oil on the bike, and check tire pressures on all of them, and that's about it. For everything else, I take them to a dealer or independent garage. But: They are far, far more reliable than those MGs and TRs I had more than 50 years ago. My daily driver, a VW Golf R, has almost 220,000 miles on it, still has the original clutch, and uses a quart of oil about every 4000 miles. It has never stranded me, and has needed only minor repairs since I bought it new 12 years ago.
Modern cars are indeed more complex, and yes, when they break, they are more expensive to repair. But the flip side to that fact is that they are more reliable and more economical than the chariots of yore, and need servicing far less often.
I loved my British sports cars...but I sure wouldn't want to go back to driving one every day!
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I've now had several vehicles with the auto start stop "feature." It really doesn't bother me, but some folks get real worked up over it. There are devices you can purchase and install that will defeat the feature permanently. Some plug into the OBD II port. Others require tearing into the dash to plug it into a connector. I won't bother.
I do push the button to disable it if I remember, but the restart is basically instantaneous and it really doesn't bother me. I've experienced zero problems in over 10 years of driving vehicles equipped with this feature.
I do push the button to disable it if I remember, but the restart is basically instantaneous and it really doesn't bother me. I've experienced zero problems in over 10 years of driving vehicles equipped with this feature.
I have a late 70's F150, mechanical everything. It is well maintained. You know what I have to worry about? Nothing. I can fix just about anything, short of a ventilated block, on the side of the road with basic hand tools and skills learned over the years.
My truck with, basic maintenance, on the severe service intervals, is 45+ years old and DOESN'T burn oil. It can STILL pass emissions. I seriously doubt your car will last half as long as my truck. And yes, I drive my truck just about everyday.
Good luck with your VW.
Speaking of tech, if you have a Ford truck with the BLIS system, and the tail lights are damaged and or stolen if the lights themselves are $600 a piece - if you have to replace the electronic innards it's between $5000-6000 a piece if you can find them.
My neighbor had his side view mirror broken on his late model fission when he hit a pole. It ran him almost $1500 from the dealer to have it installed and painted. The mirror had sensors for some sort of monitoring system.
Yeah, no.
My neighbor had his side view mirror broken on his late model fission when he hit a pole. It ran him almost $1500 from the dealer to have it installed and painted. The mirror had sensors for some sort of monitoring system.
Yeah, no.
These posts remind me of the original auto-stop mechanisms during the bad old days of the mid-1970s, when automobile engineering and quality hit rock bottom. I rented a new Chrysler during that period that had an engine that would shut off every time I touched the brake. I'd re-start it manually, but the engine would stall as soon as I touched the gas pedal. Stop-stall, stop-stall, stop-stall, block after block in downtown San Francisco, no less. Of course none of this was by design. It was a result of the primitive and poorly engineered emissions systems of that era. I was able to nurse the Chrysler back to the rental agency, where they exchanged it for a beat-up old Chevrolet Citation. It was ugly, but it ran. I sure don't miss that era of 150 horsepower Corvettes and cars that barely worked.
