$799 for a 4” 586 Classic?

[pantannojack]

IMO any IL, hollow trigger type arm is worth (to me) only shooter value. No extra for glossy finish or model reputation, new, low round count. I can find original pieces cheaper than that if I want one.

 

[SWFan27]

I watched it. And then I watched it again. He refers to the 19 as "from the Performance Center" twice before he says anything about the tigger tuning specifically.

Sportsman's Warehouse is the only online seller calling it the "Smith & Wesson Performance Center Model 19 357 Magnum 4.25in"; there are a couple gun tracker sites that call it that -- apparently because Sportsman's Warehouse does.

It's a mistake. They don't know better than the manufacturer what model it is. Every other online seller correctly refers to it by S&W's actual name, as used on the S&W website: The Model 19 Classic.

People considering any of the current Classics Series deserve to know what they're getting and not be mislead into thinking they're getting something else. Until S&W calls it a Performance Center model, or advertises it with a "PC tuned action", it isn't.

I've no doubt your Model 19 Classic is a fine wheel gun. Enjoy it, and a Happy New Year to you as well.

Not trying to beat a dead horse, but it does appear that the Model 19 Classic and the S&W Classic Series has had some involvement with the Performance Center. This video is from Guns and Ammo, and the Model 19 Classic made the cover of an issue of their magazine. I plan to find a copy online. I have purchased old guitar magazines that way before. It should work for Guns and Ammo as well.

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[SWFan27]

I just purchased the February 2019 issue of Gun and Ammo magazine. There is a picture of the Model 19 Classic on the cover, along with "Smith & Wesson's Performance Center Revives the Legendary Model 19 357 Mag." I am looking forward to reading the article for more details and specifics once I receive it. My curiosity is worth the $16.00 and change I just spent for the old magazine.

 

[Hapworth]

I appreciate the sleuthing. Consider that a S&W model can be released through the Performance Center but not be a PC gun.

For instance, if S&W's bluing capability (such as it is) is housed in the Performance Center, are their blued guns therefore Performance Center guns?

I suppose if one very much wants them to be, then yes. S&W certainly doesn't think so, or they'd market them as such because that's instant extra profit.

If more commonly understood meanings of what currently constitutes a Performance Center gun apply, i.e., specialized configurations and (a little) extra attention to fit and mechanical tuning, then no, they're not PC guns.

But it's academic. The fact is the Performance Center of today is comparatively a marketing hype shell of what is was in the '90s and early 00s.

I don't want to belabor it since I've made the case already. The current Classics Series aren't Performance Center guns. That doesn't mean they aren't good guns. They are.

 

[SWFan27]

I appreciate the sleuthing. Consider that a S&W model can be released through the Performance Center but not be a PC gun.

For instance, if S&W's bluing capability (such as it is) is housed in the Performance Center, are their blued guns therefore Performance Center guns?

I suppose if one very much wants them to be, then yes. S&W certainly doesn't think so, or they'd market them as such because that's instant extra profit.

If more commonly understood meanings of what currently constitutes a Performance Center gun apply, i.e., specialized configurations and (a little) extra attention to fit and mechanical tuning, then no, they're not PC guns.

But it's academic. The fact is the Performance Center of today is comparatively a marketing hype shell of what is was in the '90s and early 00s.

I don't want to belabor it since I've made the case already. The current Classics Series aren't Performance Center guns. That doesn't mean they aren't good guns. They are.

Thanks again, and I know the Classic Series are not PC guns. They most certainly do not have any Performance Center logos or labeling on them. That said, I have heard that the PC polishes the casting to smooth the trigger and also does something with the springs on the Classic Series. If that is or was true, I am not sure if that is still the case in 2025. It could have been an initial release thing back the 2018/2019 era. I am only speculating or guessing.

It is not really a big deal to me either way. I just happened to come across the video I posted in my YouTube feed last night. I am very happy with the trigger on my 19 Classic no matter who did the trigger work. I now own four modern S&W revolvers. They all have the dreaded locks, along with fantastic triggers on all of them. I find the locks easy enough to ignore. They are not anything that I will ever use.

 

[bananaman]

Time goes by, as we all know. My 586, 4" no dash was obtained in a trade. Have under $500 in it. Bob